Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I won't even LOOK at it. On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Don’t touch it. They degrade from heating and cooling over time, and > become really brittle. Nearly every one I’ve ever replaced has been > cracked in the center. > > Dan > > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update I

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Don’t touch it. They degrade from heating and cooling over time, and become really brittle. Nearly every one I’ve ever replaced has been cracked in the center. Dan > On Oct 4, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I haven't needed one in at

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Don't store the spare where it gets hot. > > W > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penof

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-04 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
cedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update That is the “strip” fuse, John. Just as described in previous posts. Replace it and you should be good to go - buy a couple of spares to ha

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-04 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curley wrote: > > Since the fuse blew, you could still have a grounded GP. Yup. Or just a "worn" fuse. I have never overloaded one of those fuses - but I've replace a lot of failed ones. > Without a meter that has a range of 0-20 or 0-50 ohms or a finer > scale, or a digital that can read

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Looks like I need to get the relay. As always, a good resoldering with perhaps a replacement capacitor or two is all yours probably needs to work like new. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
According to the EPC, an 80-amp fuse is correct for 240Ds with FG numbers after 149279 On Monday, 03 Oct 2016, Curley McLain wrote: > >The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG >fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in >my post

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Curley is The Last Word --FT On 10/3/16 8:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in my post yesterday. Another post yesterday told you the fuse was

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Buy and keep a couple in the glove box. On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG > fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in my > post

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
.com> > Cc: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing > > My two had been converted to parallel. 78 had glow button for relay on > firewall > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in my post yesterday. Another post yesterday told you the fuse was in the top of the relay, under the relay cover, and exactly how to take the cover off.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
immensely. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing My two

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
80A. That's what I meant. I think. Whatever it is you can get them at the stealer, they are (or used to be) pretty cheap. Keep a few in the glove box along with a screwdriver for any field repairs. --FT On 10/3/16 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That is the “strip” fuse, John.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That is the “strip” fuse, John. Just as described in previous posts. Replace it and you should be good to go - buy a couple of spares to have around, too. Dan > On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:12 PM, John Ingram via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > I went out to the

[MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update

2016-10-03 Thread John Ingram via Mercedes
Hello Everyone, I went out to the car and searched for the fuse and finally found it inside the cover on top of the relay. I hope it is the right fuse because it was blown and came out in two pieces. It is just a steel band and looks like the fuses in the on-line websites. The only lettering

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
My two had been converted to parallel. 78 had glow button for relay on firewall Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 3, 2016 2:24 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote: On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:44:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:44:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79 240D,s. fuse may have been > over wheel well. Obvious fuse case. But this is an '83, with parallel glow plugs and the relay on the left-front fender. Craig

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
No, but I'd guess you can buy a new relay for the price kent wants to bodge up your car. About $130 for a new one and $30 to 75 for a used one. Check out ebay You can use a 4 cyl or 5 cyl relay. Just put in the right fuse. If you think you want to go the pushbutton relay route, let me

[MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-03 Thread John Ingram via Mercedes
Thank you all for the great replies to my questions. I knew I would get the benefit of all your experience. I will start testing. Since the dashboard indicator light goes on this indicates the fuse is good. Looks like I need to get the relay. There also is the push button relay kit from

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes that's right Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 2, 2016 5:28 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > > > John wrote: > > > > > > Is there a relay or fuse that is the normal cause for this? If > > > so, what is it and where is it? > > > Floyd wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 4:13 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little covered holder, it is a 20A stri

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I made one correction to Philip's post below. What he said, plus a couple of clarifications. Batter voltage should be battery voltage. 1. 240D GP fuse is NOT 20A. It is 50 Amp. You can find them at VW stealers if FLAPS does not have one for you. 5 cyl engines use a bigger one, 60 or

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was thinking I have seen ones that are different amperage ratings - the strip is wider or narrower depending on the size. They’re the same length, however. Dan > On Oct 2, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mine were big in size. 1 1/2"? > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> John wrote: > > When I turn the key on my ’83 240D the glow plug light goes on as > usual but it does not go off after 10 seconds or so as it used > to. When I turn over the engine it doesn’t even try to start. > It seems that the glow plugs never turned on. Is there a relay > or fuse that is

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Mine were big in size. 1 1/2"? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 2, 2016 5:22 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Are they 20A? I thought they were bigger than that. Although I believe > there are different ones, too. > > Dan > > > On Oct 2,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Are they 20A? I thought they were bigger than that. Although I believe there are different ones, too. Dan > On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79 240D,s. fuse may have been over > wheel well.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79 240D,s. fuse may have been over wheel well. Obvious fuse case. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Oct 2, 2016 4:13 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" wrote: GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
es@okiebenz.com > Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing > > GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little covered > holder, it > is a 20A strip fuse about 2in long and screws onto the conta

Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little covered holder, it is a 20A strip fuse about 2in long and screws onto the contacts. They cost like a dollar, buy a couple to keep in the car. Glow plug relay could be bad too (I'm guessing this car has a relay) but the fuse

[MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing

2016-10-02 Thread John Ingram via Mercedes
Hello Everyone, When I turn the key on my ’83 240D the glow plug light goes on as usual but it does not go off after 10 seconds or so as it used to. When I turn over the engine it doesn’t even try to start. It seems that the glow plugs never turned on. Is there a relay or fuse that is the