Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Mitch wrote:

> 
> Without a drain cock in the bottom of the block,

OM61x have a block drain. Just forward of the starter motor.  I
access it with a long extension through the starboard forward
wheel well.

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[MG via Mercedes]

Not a good idea IMHO. You could end up with a bunch of dust and 
dirt in the water. The air filters in the dehumidifiers are not 
100%. They are built just like the filters in most window AC 
units, just a plastic mesh to keep the worst of the dust bunnies 
from clogging up the evaporator fins. The rest of the fine dirt 
is supposed to get washed off with the water.


I have been using deionized water from the reverse osmosis filter 
tap on the kitchen sink.


MG

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

If you have a dehumidifier you could save it's output for this...
Curt

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  On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:   Seems like a waste of money to me.


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On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes  
wrote:

The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush and 
mixing
with the coolant for final fill.
Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system.

Russ


On Sun,1/21/18 15:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to use 
it when doing the final fill.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

Curt,
Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
water? or how, what?

I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP

Thanks in advance.
Grant...

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA

Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
-Curt


On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
away the bottle it came in.
Mitch.


On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.

https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-

softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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>‎I saw the PDF attached to your posting to >the list after I sent my email.

And I saw your reply after I hit the send button... :)

>‎Well, what do you know! I stand >corrected!

It is rare occurrence when an uneducated rube such as I can correct a nuclear 
physicist with a PhD. The closest thing thing I have to a PhD would be a Post 
hole Digger

Rick
Uneducated Hoosier Rube
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:11:58 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Craig sez:
> 
>  >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you
> do not get full >flow through the radiator
> 
> See the attached pdf file.
> Especially steps A. 2. ‎And B. 6. (and everything in between) :)

I saw the PDF attached to your posting to the list after I sent my email.

As I said in the second posting,

 > Here is the pdf file. On page one step A.2. It says "remove
 > thermostat". On page 3 step B.6. It says "install coolant
 > thermostat with new sealing ring (20-10)". This is for OM617
 > engines in 123, 116, and 126 chassis cars. I do realize Marshall
 > was adamant about blocking open the thermostat. In this instance,
 > he was contradicting what the manual indicates, in other words,
 > wrong. 

 Well, what do you know! I stand corrected!

I also attached the 20-015 for OM60x engines to back up your comment
about them needing the blocked-open thermostat.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:48:46 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware
> stores inexpensively.

Good to know! Thanks!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:27:14 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> >> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no
> >> thermostat
> 
> >The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do
> >not get full flow through the radiator.
> 
> On 61X engines the thermostat is removed.

No. OM61x engines need to have the bypass passage blocked by a
blocked-opened thermostat so the coolant won't short-circuit the radiator.

I gave Kaleb my factory manuals with the '82 240D/3.0.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Same thing really ;)

-Curt






On Monday, January 22, 2018, 1:42:52 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:45:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Piece of metal tubing.
> -Curt
>  
> 
>    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165
>  wrote: 
>  How do block it open?

Or if you are Jim Cathey, a piece of cartridge brass -- I think he has a
picture on his website.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 19:45:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Piece of metal tubing.
> -Curt
>  
> 
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165
>  wrote: 
>  How do block it open?

Or if you are Jim Cathey, a piece of cartridge brass -- I think he has a
picture on his website.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

That makes sense to me.  That's what a coolant flush used to mean.  Drain 
coolant, fill with water, run till hot, drain again, and refill. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 2:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I 
filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it 
again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is what I 
have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and wait for 
new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat 
around here but all I can find are used ones. 

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have 
>> ever seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. 
>> What is everyone’s preferred method?
> 
> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If you have a dehumidifier you could save it's output for this...
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Seems like a waste of money to me.

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> On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush 
> and mixing
> with the coolant for final fill.
> Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system.
> 
> Russ
> 
>> On Sun,1/21/18 15:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to 
>> use it when doing the final fill.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Curt,
>>> Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
>>> concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
>>> water? or how, what?
>>> 
>>> I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Grant...
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
 
 Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
 -Curt
 
 
    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
 That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
 It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
 away the bottle it came in.
 Mitch.
 
> On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> 
> https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
 softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
 softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Disherwasher detergent is used first, to remove the oil, which then lets
the rest of the water soluble chemicals do their thing.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How well does baking soda dissolve into water? You could use it to
> neutralize the acid.
> Maybe this is a good reason to do the dishwasher detergent treatment
> after, that should be basic...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:52:34 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in
> suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point,
> I would think
>
> Should do an "extra fine job" of pulling scale and iron rust off the
> interior surfaces of the cooling system followed by a flush, flush,
> flush... rinse, then flush... to stop any further reaction.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it.
> > I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another?
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for
> de-calcifying
> > the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Curt,
> > > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> > > concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> > > water? or how, what?
> > >
> > > I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > Grant...
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> > > >
> > > > Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> > > > -Curt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> > > Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> > > > That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> > > > It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and
> > throw
> > > > away the bottle it came in.
> > > > Mitch.
> > > >
> > > > > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> > > > softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
> > > > softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
> > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, it easily dissolves in a gallon of water. It's not a "really" strong
solution.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in
> suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point,
> I would think
>
> Should do an "extra fine job" of pulling scale and iron rust off the
> interior surfaces of the cooling system followed by a flush, flush,
> flush... rinse, then flush... to stop any further reaction.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it.
> > I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another?
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for
> de-calcifying
> > the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Curt,
> > > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> > > concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> > > water? or how, what?
> > >
> > > I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > Grant...
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> > > >
> > > > Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> > > > -Curt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> > > Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> > > > That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> > > > It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and
> > throw
> > > > away the bottle it came in.
> > > > Mitch.
> > > >
> > > > > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> > > > softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
> > > > softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
> > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Ace hardware stores have it in the canning section.  About $7 for 32 oz.

clay 

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> On Jan 21, 2018, at 11:58 AM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't 
> remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I agree.  that is how I have always done it.  In the old 'merkun iron 
with 4 gal cooling systems, we dumped in 2 gal prestone, then filled it 
with water.  That way you KNOW it is good to 20 below.  If you dumped in 
50/50, you'd end up with 15 to 18 below, and could lose an engine or get 
stranded when the radiator froze.  Of course, blocking 80% of the 
radiator with cardboard helped too.   (modern version of radiator shutters)



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 21, 2018 at 4:22 PM

Without a drain cock in the bottom of the block, I always put half the 
system capacity of coolant in it, then top off with water, because 
there was already some unknown quantity of water in there after flushing.


The drive for an hour to mix the stuff. For me, a round trip to town 
to run errands takes care of that.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

When I bought my first SDL, the OM603 was running without a thermostat 
for the first few months.  I thought the thermo was stuck partly open 
because it never would get up to operating temp.  When I finally 
figgered out WHERE the thermostat was, and had the new one in hand, I 
had to stick my finger in both sides before I believed someone had taken 
out the thermostat and put it back together without a thermostat.  I 
have run OM616 without thermostat for a few days before without any 
problems other than the engine not getting up to normal operation temp.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 21, 2018 at 3:17 PM
I can only tell you my experience with my '81 300TD. I saw the same 
thing in my '83 240D. If you run the engine up to operating temp, then 
shut it off and restart it'll over heat. I think with that procedure 
you could get away with it because you don't stop and start again but 
you can't drive around (or at least can't drive around much) without a 
thermostat.
This is almost as bad as the argument about driving around with a 
loose pressure cap, that one I did a lot of...

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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> On January 21, 2018 at 5:21 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid 
> flush and mixing
> with the coolant for final fill.
> Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system.

Without a drain cock in the bottom of the block, I always put half the system 
capacity of coolant in it, then top off with water, because there was already 
some unknown quantity of water in there after flushing. 

The drive for an hour to mix the stuff. For me, a round trip to town to run 
errands takes care of that. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Seems like a waste of money to me.

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> On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid flush 
> and mixing
> with the coolant for final fill.
> Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system.
> 
> Russ
> 
>> On Sun,1/21/18 15:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to 
>> use it when doing the final fill.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Curt,
>>> Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
>>> concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
>>> water? or how, what?
>>> 
>>> I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Grant...
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
 
 Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
 -Curt
 
 
On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
 That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
 It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
 away the bottle it came in.
 Mitch.
 
> On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> 
> https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

The Indy shop I use. Uses Distilled water when doing the citric acid 
flush and mixing

with the coolant for final fill.
Remember to mix the coolant and water BEFORE adding it to the system.

Russ

On Sun,1/21/18 15:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to use 
it when doing the final fill.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

Curt,
Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
water? or how, what?

I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP

Thanks in advance.
Grant...

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA

Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
-Curt


On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
away the bottle it came in.
Mitch.


On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <

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‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.

https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-

softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

13.351 oz per Gal

On Sun,1/21/18 15:43, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

 From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying
the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


Curt,
Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
water? or how, what?

I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP

Thanks in advance.
Grant...

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA

Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
-Curt


 On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via

Mercedes

 wrote:

  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
away the bottle it came in.
Mitch.


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.

https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-

softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yep... distilled for final fill... with tap water rinse, all drain cocks
open... lower hose off, etc... fits what I've read so far...

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to
> use it when doing the final fill.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Curt,
> > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> > concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> > water? or how, what?
> >
> > I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Grant...
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> >>
> >> Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >>On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> >> That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> >> It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and
> throw
> >> away the bottle it came in.
> >> Mitch.
> >>
> >>> On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> >> softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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I would not think you would use distilled water just for a flush. Need to use 
it when doing the final fill.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2018, at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Curt,
> Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> water? or how, what?
> 
> I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Grant...
> 
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
>> 
>> Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>>On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
>> That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
>> It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
>> away the bottle it came in.
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
>>> 
>>> https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
>> softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
>> softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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How well does baking soda dissolve into water? You could use it to neutralize 
the acid.
Maybe this is a good reason to do the dishwasher detergent treatment after, 
that should be basic...

-Curt






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 wrote: 





The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in
suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point,
I would think

Should do an "extra fine job" of pulling scale and iron rust off the
interior surfaces of the cooling system followed by a flush, flush,
flush... rinse, then flush... to stop any further reaction.

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> Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it.
> I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another?
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying
> the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Curt,
> > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> > concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> > water? or how, what?
> >
> > I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Grant...
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> > >
> > > Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > >    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> > Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> > > That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> > > It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and
> throw
> > > away the bottle it came in.
> > > Mitch.
> > >
> > > > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> > > softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The question rises, at that concentration, would it hold the acid in
suspension? 14 oz per gallon [approx] is pretty close to absorption point,
I would think

Should do an "extra fine job" of pulling scale and iron rust off the
interior surfaces of the cooling system followed by a flush, flush,
flush... rinse, then flush... to stop any further reaction.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it.
> I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another?
> -Curt
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying
> the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Curt,
> > Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> > concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> > water? or how, what?
> >
> > I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Grant...
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> > >
> > > Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> > Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> > > That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> > > It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and
> throw
> > > away the bottle it came in.
> > > Mitch.
> > >
> > > > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> > > softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Holy toot! Almost a pound per gallon... Actually I've never weighed it.
I wonder if you could reuse from one vehicle to another?
-Curt
 

On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:43:15 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying
the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Curt,
> Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> water? or how, what?
>
> I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Grant...
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> >
> > Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> > That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> > It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
> > away the bottle it came in.
> > Mitch.
> >
> > > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> > >
> > > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> > softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
> > softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[OK Don via Mercedes]

From the PDF Rick just posted - 100 grams/liter of water for de-calcifying
the cooling system. That's roughly (very) 14 oz./gallon.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Curt,
> Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
> concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
> water? or how, what?
>
> I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Grant...
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
> >
> > Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> > That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> > It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
> > away the bottle it came in.
> > Mitch.
> >
> > > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> > >
> > > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> > softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
> > softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

To be honest if you buy that link I posted I also get a kickback through the 
Amazon affiliate program.
For general cleaning you don't need very much, I usually get a gallon of hot 
water from the tap and add 3 or 4 tablespoons. One time I cooked the crystals 
in, I can't remember how much I finally got in but it couldn't have been a 
whole cup.
I think MB wants 10% mixture, I have no idea how to calculate that but I 
suspect a couple tablespoons in a gallon would de-scale the system just fine. 
That amount works great to clean brass lantern parts. If you leave steel in it 
for a week or three it disappears. I found that out the hard way.

-Curt
 

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 wrote:  
 
 Curt,
Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
water? or how, what?

I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP

Thanks in advance.
Grant...

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
>
> Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
> away the bottle it came in.
> Mitch.
>
> > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> >
> > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
> softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Curt,
Looks like the Amazon listing is the best bang for the buck. What
concentration do you use when using the dry powder?  Mix with distilled
water? or how, what?

I have 6 vehicles that need cooling system cleaning, ASAP

Thanks in advance.
Grant...

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA
>
> Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:38:01 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
> That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
> It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw
> away the bottle it came in.
> Mitch.
>
> > On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it.
> >
> > https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-
> softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-
> softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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I can only tell you my experience with my '81 300TD. I saw the same thing in my 
'83 240D. If you run the engine up to operating temp, then shut it off and 
restart it'll over heat. I think with that procedure you could get away with it 
because you don't stop and start again but you can't drive around (or at least 
can't drive around much) without a thermostat.
This is almost as bad as the argument about driving around with a loose 
pressure cap, that one I did a lot of...
-Curt
 

On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 4:04:16 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Here is the pdf file. On page one step A.2. It says "remove thermostat". On 
page 3 step B.6. It says "install coolant thermostat with new sealing ring 
(20-10)". This is for OM617 engines in 123, 116, and 126 chassis cars. I do 
realize Marshall was adamant about blocking open the thermostat. In this 
instance, he was contradicting what the manual indicates, in other words, 
wrong. 

On OM602 engines, you DO block open the thermostat, I believe. 

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Shut it off and restart, thats when it'll overheat. Thats how I got my '81 
300TD for $300. Thats also how the previous owner managed to ruin the head 
gasket on that car. 

-Curt





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 wrote: 





I had mine running for 30-45 minutes with no thermostat and I could barely get 
the needle to move up at all 

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> On Jan 21, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes 
> the passage back into the engine forcing coolant into the radiator. 
> Interestingly with a cold engine it won't happen right away but if you get 
> the engine warm, shut it off and restart it'll overheat rapidly.
> -Curt
> 
> 
>    On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:27:18 AM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
>>> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no
>>> thermostat
> 
>> The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do
>> not get full flow through the radiator.
> 
> On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is 
> blocked open. At least that's what the factory manual says. ‎And no I don't 
> have a copy handy. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I had mine running for 30-45 minutes with no thermostat and I could barely get 
the needle to move up at all 

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> On Jan 21, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes 
> the passage back into the engine forcing coolant into the radiator. 
> Interestingly with a cold engine it won't happen right away but if you get 
> the engine warm, shut it off and restart it'll overheat rapidly.
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:27:18 AM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>>> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no
>>> thermostat
> 
>> The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do
>> not get full flow through the radiator.
> 
> On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is 
> blocked open. At least that's what the factory manual says. ‎And no I don't 
> have a copy handy. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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$2.24 a pound

‎

Here it is possibly cheaper, depending on shipping. 

http://alphachemicals.com/citric_acid

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Correction, make that $12/lb
https://www.oemercedesbenzparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-lemon-acid-000989102511

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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> On January 21, 2018 at 2:58 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't 
> remember the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. 

Thanks for the part number. 
Looks to be about $17/lb now. 
https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/53126/Citric-Acid-Cooling-System-Flush-000989102511/

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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FWIW, citric acid powder is available from MB, A000989102511. I don't remember 
the price; I bought four or five containers of it years ago. 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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http://amzn.to/2rtyUbA

Lots cheaper. I use this on Coleman parts all the time...
-Curt
 

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 wrote:  
 
 Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw away 
the bottle it came in. 
Mitch. 

> On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it. 
> 
> https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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A 61x engine with the thermostat removed WILL overheat. The thermostat closes 
the passage back into the engine forcing coolant into the radiator. 
Interestingly with a cold engine it won't happen right away but if you get the 
engine warm, shut it off and restart it'll overheat rapidly.
-Curt
 

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 wrote:  
 
 >> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no
>> thermostat

>The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do
>not get full flow through the radiator.

On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is 
blocked open. At least that's what the factory manual says. ‎And no I don't 
have a copy handy. 

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Piece of metal tubing.
-Curt
 

On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 10:22:28 AM EST, tyee165  
wrote:  
 
 How do block it open?


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Removing it won't, blocking it open will...

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it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

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> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
> little easier.
>
> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Mitch asks:

>‎Oh, it's dry citric acid?

Yup. Granules, or crystals. If I could've waited the two days for delivery, I 
would've ordered online. With the car on jack stands and all the coolant 
drained out, I needed it today and not tomorrow. I think I did a search and 
this stuff turned up. I went to Menards and sure enough it was citric acid. I 
am not sure that stuff is one hundred percent anymore. It was.  

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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This looks like the deal - under $7/lb with shipping:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XTWMK4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B005XTWMK4&pd_rd_wg=bqBgV&pd_rd_r=544GMCGXF9RNHD846M92&pd_rd_w=5EGq2

Should last you a life time.

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>
> > On January 21, 2018 at 12:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mitch sez:
> >
> > >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid?
> >
> > Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%.
>
> Oh, it's dry citric acid?
> I assumed it was a solution in water.
> At any rate, a 10lb bag is cheaper per pound, but that stuff is handier.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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> On January 21, 2018 at 12:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mitch sez:
> 
> >‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid?
> 
> Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. 

Oh, it's dry citric acid?
I assumed it was a solution in water. 
At any rate, a 10lb bag is cheaper per pound, but that stuff is handier. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Mitch sez:

>‎That would make it about $7/lb for citric >acid?

Yeah. The stuff I got was 100%. Pricey, but I needed it now. I will probably 
buy the Milliards stuff from Amazon in a few weeks for two bucks a pound.

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Contains Citric Acid, 60-100%.
That would make it about $7/lb for citric acid?
It's in a handy container, just dump a pound of acid in the car and throw away 
the bottle it came in. 
Mitch. 

> On January 21, 2018 at 12:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> ‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it. 
> 
> https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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‎I've used this stuff. 100% citric acid when I bought it. 

https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/water-filtration-softeners/water-softeners-cleaners/out-filter-mate-softener-cleaner-and-salt-booster-24-oz/t006n/p-144183670.htm

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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> On January 21, 2018 at 10:48 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware 
> stores inexpensively.

Most of the stuff I looked at is Phosphoric Acid.
http://www.jugfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Res-Care-Data.pdf

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Water softener cleaner is 100% citric acid and can be found at hardware stores 
inexpensively.

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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>> I removed the thermostat and >>reinstalled with the gasket but no
>> thermostat

>The best way is to put in a blocked-open >thermostat, otherwise you do
>not get full flow through the radiator.

On 61X engines the thermostat is removed. On 60X engines the thermostat is 
blocked open. At least that's what the factory manual says. ‎And no I don't 
have a copy handy. 

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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How do block it open?


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[MBZ] 240d cooling system flush 
Removing it won't, blocking it open will...

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Mercedes wrote:   Did you remove the thermostat to flush 
it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

Jaime


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
> little easier.
>
> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Removing it won't, blocking it open will...

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Did you remove the thermostat to flush 
it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

Jaime


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
> little easier.
>
> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:53:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no
> thermostat

The best way is to put in a blocked-open thermostat, otherwise you do
not get full flow through the radiator.

 
> On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> > Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure
> > there is good flow through the whole system.

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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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It is. Maybe the newest models might need the g48 but g05 is still approved

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> 
> But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
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> 
> On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 
 Not sure what you mean
>>> 
>>> I hope he means Zerex G-05.
>>> But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

But isn't G05 approved for MB? Is there a cutoff year?

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On Jan 20, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Not sure what you mean
> >
> > I hope he means Zerex G-05.
> > But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Right. It’s not worth the $10 extra per gallon for any of my cars. 

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> 
> That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure what you mean
>> 
>> I hope he means Zerex G-05.
>> But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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You need to have citric acid on hand - for cleaning auto cooling systems,
removing mineral deposits from the dishwasher, coffee pot, tea kettle, etc.
(I'm guessing that your water is rather hard like ours is).

http://www.chemistrystore.com/Chemicals_A-F-Citric_Acid_Anhydrous.html
(where I've bought it before)
or
https://www.amazon.com/Milliard-Citric-Acid-Pound-NON-GMO/dp/B00GNBHPAS/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1516499235&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=citric+acid+anhydrous&psc=1


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> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started
> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed
> some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while.
> Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it
> since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back
> into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I
> thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
> >> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
> >> everyone’s preferred method?
> >
> > 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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That’s the honey colored stuff.  The current MB AF is blue.

-D


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> 
>> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>> 
>> Not sure what you mean
> 
> I hope he means Zerex G-05.
> But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Well I have not filled it up yet because I have to wait for a thermostat 
to arrive.  I only use G05



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On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:


Not sure what you mean

I hope he means Zerex G-05.
But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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> On January 20, 2018 at 6:48 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not sure what you mean

I hope he means Zerex G-05.
But isn't the current MBZ stuff orange?
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Not sure what you mean.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Next time refill with Zerex coolant.
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
>>> good flow through the whole system.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
 little easier.
 
 I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
 nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
 heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
 heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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Next time refill with Zerex coolant.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat
>
>
>
> On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
>> good flow through the whole system.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
>>> little easier.
>>>
>>> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose

>>> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
>>> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through
>>> the
>>> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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I removed the thermostat and reinstalled with the gasket but no thermostat


On 1/20/2018 4:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

Jaime


On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
little easier.

I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose

nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.



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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Did you remove the thermostat to flush it?  It'll help make sure there is
good flow through the whole system.

Jaime


On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a
> little easier.
>
> I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I need to find a nozzle that will fit. That would have probably made it a 
little easier.

I can’t imagine trying to do a flush like this on say, a 642 powered car. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose 
> nozzle that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the 
> heater core and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the 
> heater and the block.  That seemed to do the job.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well I just finished it up and pulled it back in the shop. Looking down in the 
radiator cap opening the top fins of the radiator look sparkling clean. I will 
say when I flushed it again after running the prestone in it a lot more junk 
came out, then on the next flush it was pretty clear. I would say this stuff 
seems to work ok. 

I am simply amazed at how dead simple these cars are.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent 
>> (not dish soap) in?
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
>> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
>> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
>> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
>> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
>> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
>> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
>> really bad.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got 
>> > to the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - 
>> > the stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same 
>> > thing.  I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that 
>> > needs a good degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
>> > 
>> > That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, 
>> > and didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just 
>> > flush with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the 
>> > coolant.
>> > 
>> > -D
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started 
>> >> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then 
>> >> flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine 
>> >> for a while. Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I 
>> >> will put in it since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. 
>> >> Drain then pull back into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then 
>> >> fill with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can 
>> >> find are used ones. 
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>>  Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>>  seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>>  everyone’s preferred method? 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

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The cooling system in my old 300TD had much brown sludge.  I had a hose nozzle 
that neatly fit inside the heater hoses so I used it to flush the heater core 
and the engine just by running (lots of) tap water through the heater and the 
block.  That seemed to do the job.



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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I read about that but did not do it. It does not seem oily. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent 
> (not dish soap) in?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
> really bad.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got 
> > to the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - 
> > the stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same 
> > thing.  I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that 
> > needs a good degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
> > 
> > That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, 
> > and didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just 
> > flush with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the 
> > coolant.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started 
> >> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then 
> >> flushed some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for 
> >> a while. Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will 
> >> put in it since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain 
> >> then pull back into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill 
> >> with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can find 
> >> are used ones. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
>  Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>  seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>  everyone’s preferred method? 
> >>> 
> >>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> >>> 
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I spoke too soon. After flushing it the 2nd time while running it came out 
clear. I put the prestone in it and it’s running again for another 20 minutes. 
Will then flush it again and call it good.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
> really bad.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got 
>> to the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - 
>> the stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same 
>> thing.  I use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that 
>> needs a good degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
>> 
>> That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
>> didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush 
>> with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started 
>>> disconnecting hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed 
>>> some more. Now I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. 
>>> Will then flush it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it 
>>> since that is what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back 
>>> into shop and wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I 
>>> thought I had a new thermostat around here but all I can find are used 
>>> ones. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
  wrote:
 
> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
> everyone’s preferred method? 
 
 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would wait until you get clear water, or it’s just going to be crudded up 
(still), just not as bad as before.  I would flush it from the hose on the back 
of the engine with the radiator cap off.  Run water through it for 5-10 
minutes, then close it up and run it and check.

My 82 300SD had a cooling system like this - it looked like orangish mud.  Took 
quite a while to flush it out.


-D

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the 
> line going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran 
> hose into the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice 
> so far and each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the 
> other hose coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this 
> a couple more times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or 
> should I wait until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is 
> really bad.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Is it oily? Isn't that the case where you put a little dishwasher detergent 
(not dish soap) in?
-Curt
 

On Saturday, January 20, 2018, 3:54:21 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line 
going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into 
the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and 
each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the other hose 
coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this a couple more 
times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or should I wait 
until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is really bad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to 
> the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the 
> stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same thing.  I 
> use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that needs a good 
> degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
> 
> That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
> didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush 
> with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
>> hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now 
>> I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush 
>> it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is 
>> what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and 
>> wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new 
>> thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
 seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
 everyone’s preferred method? 
>>> 
>>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I filled it up with water, let it run about 10 minutes then pulled the line 
going into the heater valve. It came out dirt brown again. I then ran hose into 
the radiator cap until it ran clear again. I have done that twice so far and 
each time it comes up very dirty again. Next time I will pull the other hose 
coming off the back of the engine. I guess I will keep doing this a couple more 
times then will put the prestone flush in and do it again. Or should I wait 
until I get a clear flow then put the flush in? This one is really bad.

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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to 
> the store and buy a sh*tload  of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the 
> stuff in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same thing.  I 
> use it for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that needs a good 
> degreasing/cleaning once in a while.
> 
> That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
> didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush 
> with clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
>> hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now 
>> I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush 
>> it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is 
>> what I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and 
>> wait for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new 
>> thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
 seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
 everyone’s preferred method? 
>>> 
>>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Do that and if you’re really worried about the citric acid flush, just got to 
the store and buy a sh*tload of KoolAid lemonade flavored drink mix - the stuff 
in the packets, not the container.  It’s pretty much the same thing.  I use it 
for cleaning dishwashers, washing machines, anything that needs a good 
degreasing/cleaning once in a while.

That being said, I have only done the citric acid thing once in my life, and 
didn’t feel like it really made a difference either way.  Now I just flush with 
clear water., run it for a bit, flush it again and replace the coolant.

-D


 
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
> hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now 
> I filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush 
> it again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is what 
> I have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and wait 
> for new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new 
> thermostat around here but all I can find are used ones. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>>> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>>> everyone’s preferred method? 
>> 
>> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I don’t have any on hand so what I have done so far is started disconnecting 
hoses and flushing stuff out till it runs clear, then flushed some more. Now I 
filled it up with water and am running engine for a while. Will then flush it 
again. I have some Prestone flush that I will put in it since that is what I 
have. I will then flush it again. Drain then pull back into shop and wait for 
new thermostat to arrive then fill with g05. I thought I had a new thermostat 
around here but all I can find are used ones. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
>> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
>> everyone’s preferred method? 
> 
> 10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:49:35 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever
> seen. I need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is
> everyone’s preferred method? 

10% citric acid with blocked open thermostat.


Craig

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[MBZ] 240d cooling system flush

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Coolant in the 240d is rust brown. It’s probably the worst I have ever seen. I 
need to do a good flush on it and replace thermostat. What is everyone’s 
preferred method? 

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