Thank you so much Fred but I already have the tool!
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> On Jun 27, 2024, at 2:37 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Dimitri.
> I have the socket for the valves on a 60x injection pump.
> Yours if you want it.
> Fred.
>
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:41 PM Curt Raym
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo injector nailing?
I did the delivery valve seals on my '84 190D and IIRC the injection pump
seemed louder after doing the job than before
Dimitri.
I have the socket for the valves on a 60x injection pump.
Yours if you want it.
Fred.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I did the delivery valve seals on my '84 190D and IIRC the injection pump
> seemed louder after doing the job
I did the delivery valve seals on my '84 190D and IIRC the injection pump
seemed louder after doing the job than before. Also as I remember (and it's
been probably 10+ years) that noise declined over time.
I'd throw a bottle of motor oil or ATF into the fuel tank and run the car a
little to see
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> Cc: Dimitri Seretakis
> Subject: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo injector nailing?
>
> To keep things less confusing, I’m asking this question separately from
> the idling issue which K
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Subject: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo injector nailing?
To keep things less confusing, I’m asking this question separately from
the idling issue which Kaleb identified a
They are easy to bench-test using a standard current-limited lab power supply.
Set the current limit to less than the fuse value, and start raising the
voltage.
At the trip point it'll short out and the voltage will drop to zero. Passed.
-- Jim
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To keep things less confusing, I’m asking this question separately from the
idling issue which Kaleb identified as the voltage overload relay.
So I took my car to the shop three weeks ago in order to fix a broken lower
ball joint- stupid Boston potholes. They ended up rebuilding the whole front
These are a classic crowbar overvoltage protector. The voltage, if over
a threshold, triggers a big-ass SCR that shorts out the power, thus blowing
the fuse and protecting all the presumably-sensitive downstream circuitry.
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Besides cleaning contacts, replacing the cartridge fuse, and generally
> handling it,
> these things are prone to bad solder joints inside. They are VERY simple
> inside.
> Just open it and r
You can check the fuse but it’s not likely blown.
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> So I should replace the fuse on top? The problem still comes and goes but
> mostly comes. I will remove, clean contacts and re-install as well.
>
Besides cleaning contacts, replacing the cartridge fuse, and generally handling
it,
these things are prone to bad solder joints inside. They are VERY simple
inside.
Just open it and resolder, if you know how to do such things. You'll need a
heavier
soldering iron, not one suited for IC's and t
So I should replace the fuse on top? The problem still comes and goes but
mostly comes. I will remove, clean contacts and re-install as well.
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 7:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> No just a regular fuse
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On
No just a regular fuse
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Was that a strip fuse, Kleb? I can’t recall.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> wrote:
>>
>> Behind the battery, red cover with a fuse
Was that a strip fuse, Kleb? I can’t recall.
-D
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 3:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Behind the battery, red cover with a fuse on top. Not related to voltage
> regulator.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Me
Who knows. Odo still not working. I’m guessing 400K though.
BTW, 3 weeks ago after hitting a pothole a bunch of times - same one (shit
state of Massachusetts) I hear a bad noise when turning into driveway, and
front wheel collapses into wheel well. Lower ball joint sheared off! Just got
it back
Thank you!
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Behind the battery, red cover with a fuse on top. Not related to voltage
> regulator.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
>> wrot
Behind the battery, red cover with a fuse on top. Not related to voltage
regulator.
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Where is this relay? Is it related to voltage regulator?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:30
how many miles on this w124 by now?
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 6:29 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> For the past year or so the ABS light comes on periodically and when that
> happens the car starts idling rough and slow, the tachometer stops working
> and the A/C s
Where is this relay? Is it related to voltage regulator?
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> It is the over voltage relay, or the contacts in the relay socket are dirty
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:29 PM, Dimitri Se
CHANGE your FUSES.
Kidding aside, with the variety of affected systems, sounds to me like it could
be a general low voltage symptom. Check battery, alternator, grounding points,
etc.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 18:28, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> For the past year or so the ABS light co
It is the over voltage relay, or the contacts in the relay socket are dirty
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> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:29 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> For the past year or so the ABS light comes on periodically and when that
> happens the car starts idling rough and slow,
For the past year or so the ABS light comes on periodically and when that
happens the car starts idling rough and slow, the tachometer stops working and
the A/C stops blowing cold air. The problem always corrects itself within a few
minutes or less but now it is persistent and it’s very annoying
Does the external lever move with the shutoff doo-dad? I've never had the
opportunity to observe it.
-Curt
On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:19:45 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
wrote:
>
> Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine
> is off.
Why? Isn
Dimitri needs some additional staff for sure.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 2:03 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Or just let it idle all night every day.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 10:35 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I recommen
Or just let it idle all night every day.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 10:35 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I recommend you retain a valet whose sole responsibility is to start your
> extensive fleet on a regular schedule to keep them in fine fettle.
>
> On Thu, Jul 2
I recommend you retain a valet whose sole responsibility is to start your
extensive fleet on a regular schedule to keep them in fine fettle.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 1:30 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I just got it started. It turns out it is an air leak from
I just got it started. It turns out it is an air leak from somewhere. Question
is where? I don’t really have time to troubleshoot that right now so I’ll just
let it be and make sure not to let the car sit.
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
Yes. Glow plug system was dealt with 2 months ago.
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>
> Have you ruled out the glow plug relay (assuming it has one) and/or the gp
> fuse?
>
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
>>
Have you ruled out the glow plug relay (assuming it has one) and/or the gp
fuse?
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 10:51 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Probably, but that’s a lot of hassle. I think it will start if I keep
> cranking. I just need to charge the battery. O
Probably, but that’s a lot of hassle. I think it will start if I keep cranking.
I just need to charge the battery. Obviously, I need to identify the source of
the air leak, if in fact that is the culprit.
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
On 27/07/2023 9:34 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to starting- almost
started but my battery is giving in.
Would it help to crack the injector lines one by one and bleed off any air?
Randy
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I think you are right. The car is getting closer and closer to starting- almost
started but my battery is giving in.
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:10 AM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system, letting it
> drain while
So the lever should be down when the car is off and the ignition is in the off
position and if it’s up then there is a vacuum leak?
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>
>> Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine
>> is o
>
> Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine
> is off.
Why? Isn't the key still in the OFF position? Turn key ON, but do not
start. Observe.
> You should be able to push it down and once you let go it should spring
> back up.
>
Only if there's a vacuum leak
Yes, but I don’t believe it should be in the down position when the engine is
off. You should be able to push it down and once you let go it should spring
back up.
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> On Jul 27, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> ... I would turn the igni
That sounds like the classic small air leak in the fuel system, letting it
drain while sitting. It will run fine as long as it runs every day, and you
will not likely see fuel dripping. Check every inch (centimeter) of the
lines from the fuel tank to the injection pump.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:3
>
> ... I would turn the ignition back on and it would pop up and stay up
> while cranking. Once the ignition was turned off the lever would fall back
> down. I’m not sure what this means.
>
It means it's working as designed. How do you think a vacuum-powered
mechanical shutoff should work?
-- J
Thanks Fred. I might take you up on that generous offer. Meanwhile, I’m
noticing a few more things. First of all, the lever was in the up position this
morning but the car still would not start although it seems like it’s closer to
starting. After cranking unsuccessfully, and turning the ignitio
Dimitri, Dwight.
FWIW.
If the lever is down the rack is in the shutoff position and will not
supply fuel at all.
The vacuum shut-off device could be stuck, maybe? (I have a spare).
The pump side plate, when removed, will let you access the rack.
I have an OM602 injection pump with 90k mi. that you
wish I could help you Dimitri but it never got a chance to sit as it was a
daily driver. worth checking the IP.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 9:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t
> start. It glows jus
The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo has been sitting for 5 days and now it won’t start. It
glows just fine so I think it’s a fuel issue. The injector pump shut off lever
is in the depressed position. That doesn’t seem right. I can pull it up but it
just flops back down. If I hold it up while someone else cr
http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/4964332373.html
Might be a deal if you need a 124 Diesel and high MPG.
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
190d turbo 300d 2.5 turbo and 95 e300 have the vents. If this car does not have
then it was wrecked and the fender was replaced with the wrong one
Or it's a 260E/300E with five speed and engine swap.
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190d turbo 300d 2.5 turbo and 95 e300 have the vents. If this car does not have
then it was wrecked and the fender was replaced with the wrong one
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On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 87s with OM603 do not have the vents. I thought the vent
87s with OM603 do not have the vents. I thought the vents matched
the OM602 series of 300D 2.5, but it looks like the 606 NA also got
the vents.
Thought all turbo's had the vented right front fender in the W124/201 series.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
http://p
Depending on how well the conversion was done (differential), I think that's a
fair price.
--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2642770641.html
I got all excited seeing the title of the ad and thinking it was a
Euro wit
Thought all turbo's had the vented right front fender in the W124/201 series.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2642770641.html
>
> I got all excited seeing the title of the ad and thinking it was a
> Euro with cloth seats and manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2642770641.html
I got all excited seeing the title of the ad and thinking it was a
Euro with cloth seats and manual climate control. $5600 for a
converted US car is a bit steep. Looks a bit lowered, too, or is that
just the big AMG knockoffs?
Alex
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On 5/7/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh crap! I forgot to tell you. That little vile of water I kept in the
glove box is holy water. You can have to springle it on the hood star,
click your
.
Was the holy water thrown too close to the washer?
BillR
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Ok Don wrote:
"I&#x
Ok Don wrote:
"I've been wondering why Snook wanted to sell this car is the
300SEL haunted also?"
Oh crap! I forgot to tell you. That little vile of water I kept in the
glove box is holy water. You can have to springle it on the hood star,
click your heels (they don't have to be rub
yea, we do. What do you want and what do you want to get rid of? I
think I already know this answer though.
OK Don wrote:
You and I need to do some trading, but this one isn't up for consideration.
It's been working fine since ---
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I wi
You and I need to do some trading, but this one isn't up for consideration.
It's been working fine since ---
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I will trade you something for it.
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Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you j
I will trade you something for it.
OK Don wrote:
Thursday AM I headed to Lawton (80 miles SW.). I turned on the key,
fastened the seatbelt, looked at the glow plug light, and saw that it
was off. It's usually still on for another second or two. The engine
started normally. When I released the ke
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Well, all the glow plugs are new,
Don:
My 240D did that briefly. I am pretty sure it was a carbon bridge in the
pre-chamber shorting things out some, because after I reamed out the
pre-chambers the problem immediately went away and has not returned. I was
using the upgrade pencil-style plugs, too, not the loops ones.
On 5/5/07,
But I can tell the difference between the few extra revolutions it
takes to start when I don't let it pre-glow, even at 75F.
On 5/5/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, all the glow plugs are new, and it's working fine now. Even when
> the light is wacky, the engine starts like the
Well, all the glow plugs are new, and it's working fine now. Even when
the light is wacky, the engine starts like the plugs are working fine.
If it's not particularly cold out, it would.
-- Jim
Well, all the glow plugs are new, and it's working fine now. Even when
the light is wacky, the engine starts like the plugs are working fine.
On 5/5/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
my 91 300D 2.5T did that. After checking each GP (all were new) and the
wiring brtween the Amp and GP I con
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Subject: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 turbo wagongeist
Thursday AM I headed t
Thursday AM I headed to Lawton (80 miles SW.). I turned on the key,
fastened the seatbelt, looked at the glow plug light, and saw that it
was off. It's usually still on for another second or two. The engine
started normally. When I released the key, the glow plug light turned
on, and stayed on for
Bob Morrison wrote:
"Your mechanic is there and has worked on the car so he's one up on me,
BUT.
The symptoms you describe are almost NEVER the injection pump. They
almost always relate to air intake, EGR, vacuum modulation of the
wastegate, pressure signals to the ALDA or the computer that
nday, June 25, 2006 10:04 PM
To: Mercedes Benz List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo Fuel Pump on Ebay or a problem with
"Your mechanic is there and has worked on the car so he's one up on me,
BUT.
The symptoms you describe are almost NEVER the injection pump. They
almost always relate
"Your mechanic is there and has worked on the car so he's one up on me,
BUT.
The symptoms you describe are almost NEVER the injection pump. They
almost always relate to air intake, EGR, vacuum modulation of the
wastegate, pressure signals to the ALDA or the computer that controls
the emissions
Bob Morrison wrote:
Ok here is the problem. My mechanic, MB certified, tells me that it is just
a matter of time before my fuel pump goes. It surges, some days worse than
others, load, temperature, etc. It has been doing this for eight years now,
but admittedly it is getting worse. Anyway, a
Bob Morrison wrote:
>
> Anyway, a quote from the parts desk at the local dealer tells me the part I
> need is 602-070-45-01-88 for the remanufactured one (1418.00). The ebay one
> at 400.00 claims to fit 90 to 93 2.5 turbos with numbers of 602-070-45-13-01.
Bob, do you drive the car year round?
Ok here is the problem. My mechanic, MB certified, tells me that it is just
a matter of time before my fuel pump goes. It surges, some days worse than
others, load, temperature, etc. It has been doing this for eight years now,
but admittedly it is getting worse. Anyway, a quote from the parts d
Marshall Booth wrote:
> There has been almost NO information about injection
> pump adjustment since the OM621 manual that was published in the '60s.
>
About all I remember is a TSB detailing the adjustment of the OM603
governor for cars that wouldn't rev to redline.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm having trouble finding ALDA in the index of the WSM- what does ALDA
stand for and/or what should I be looking for in the engine index? Inj Pump
Operation perhaps?
Precisely why do you suppose there will be information on the adjustment
of the ALDA in the WSM? The
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo - Need ALDA Info.
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I'm seeing a feeling of being pushed back in the seat - smoothly and
progressively as rpm'
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Thanks Jim,
Your comments about the slowness when the engine is cold - that's my
symptom to a tee!
I now understand what I need to do - and why (very important to me) with
me now needing to familiarize myself with the ALDA & IP in the workshop
manuals. I kn
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I'm seeing a feeling of being pushed back in the seat - smoothly and
progressively as rpm's build between 2000 and 3000 rpm. Then it's a steady
acceleration. But at times I don't notice the p
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Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:
Larry,
Thanks for raising this-I too have been trying to figure out my turbo on
the same model.(1990 300D 2.5t.) Such a jump from the 240D. My turbo
was worked on before I got it so I know it is working. I'd be
interested to hear what other owners have to say about wh
r
> 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
> 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
> Wickford, RI
>
>
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Subject: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo
Howdy -
I have been driving my new (to me) '91 300D alot and it's really a
joy
to drive. But, (there *had* to be a but), sometimes I can really feel
the
turbo as it pushes
*have* to ask the question - is it possible for the turbo to operate
intermittently?
No, and yes. The _turbo_ won't operate intermittently, but the
system that detects the (highly variable) boost and adds fuel
commensurate with boost pressure versus throttle pressure
versus RPM can be intermitte
Howdy -
I have been driving my new (to me) '91 300D alot and it's really a joy
to drive. But, (there *had* to be a but), sometimes I can really feel the
turbo as it pushes me back in the seat. Other times, it pulls strongly but
not with the same zoom effect as at other times.
I realiz
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