By G wagons do you mean SUVs such as the GL320tdi? Heard anything good or
bad about these cars as far as repair expenses?
Thanks,
Gerry
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Most of the 4WD vehicles I see off road, other than farm pickups in a
field, are
G-wagon is not a GL320. Check out this link for more info:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/10656/Models/Model_chart_2009_1.htm
G-wagon refers to the 463 chassis series, GL is on second page, 164 chassis
series.
-Max
From: Gerry Archer
No a G is a G -- a Gelandewagen (sp?) which is the Land Rover-looking
thing, I think they were military vehicles to begin with then got
offered to the civilian market, mostly used by Mipsie to take little
Dakota and Logan to soccer matches, and to go to mani/pedi appointments
and lunch with
Gerry Archer wrote:
By G wagons do you mean SUVs such as the GL320tdi? Heard anything good
or bad about these cars as far as repair expenses?
You meant CDI, right?
I'm not sure what the difference is between a G and a GL. If you find an old G
for less than $20k, I guarantee you're in for
When I was someplace hot and sandy, I saw several of the G-wagons in armored
trim. One day I was able to talk to the driver of one, and asked how she got
so
lucky to be driving such a beast, but she didn't have a clue. Like most US
drivers, I think she was more impressed by the hood ornament
speaking of 4.5's
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/pts/2126185693.html
Bob R
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:09 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
I learned to fly and drive around the same time. I always kept one hand on
the throttle and the other on the stick (or wheel) in the airplane, and
Thats why I was so happy to take my Ranger to hunting camp this year. Last year
it missed out on really going hunting and spent the week of hunting camping
getting new wheel bearings. This year it was a prime hunting vehicle including
one hole where we actually backed back out of the hole to
Allan Streib wrote:
he's asking 4000, not 400.
I noticed.
But it's worth closer to 400.
Mitch.
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When did the 116 actually start? I know the diesels were only '79 and '80...
A friend has a couple 116 300SDs and they fantastic road cars. Roomier than a
123 with road gripping weight but not ponderous like a Cadillac from the same
period. I had one of his for a weekend (while he got stuck
So the one I've been discussing does sound like the harmonic balancer is loose.
Does that really mean a new crankshaft? Or can the bolt be drilled,
re-tapped/chased, and just bolt the balancer back on?
If the car really is rust free, and doesn't need the engine torn open, I might
consider
Curt Raymond wrote:
When did the 116 actually start? I know the diesels were only '79 and '80...
1972 elsewhere, 1973 here.
I once drove way too far to look at three 1972 SEs and SELs. Turned out to be a
W108 long, a W108 short, and a W114. Could have had all three for $500-600, and
they
Allan Streib wrote:
So the one I've been discussing does sound like the harmonic balancer is loose.
Does that really mean a new crankshaft? Or can the bolt be drilled,
re-tapped/chased, and just bolt the balancer back on?
If the key is messed up, replace the key.
If the keyway in the
Good points, Jaime, and ones I had not considered.
In my case, the W116 chassis cars are one model I skipped ownership of. The
ones I have seen or worked on have been less than ideal examples, which has, no
doubt, colored my opinions of them.
The body style never appealed to me, and many of
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:52 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
If the key is messed up, replace the key. If the keyway in the
balancer is messed up, replace the balancer and key.
How much for a new balancer? Rusty? Kaleb?
talking about a W116 300SD.
Allan
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
But Dan, they were such a huge jump from the 108/109 cars. They
established the classic layout of instruments and controls that were
used for many generations of cars.
That's an important point. One of the things I
That one thing I hate about the W163 - the controls are ALL in the worng
places! Head lights are twisting the turn signal stalk! A travesty! If I hit
a bump while resting my hand on the shifter - I downshift a gear!
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
You need to try an old Porsche 911. You'd have a good laugh with it!! lol
Wipers are on the stalk. Intermittent speed control for the wipers is a
turn switch, scattered across the dash somewhere with a bunch of other
switches.
Ed
300E
On 22 December 2010 16:13, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
My first MB - the '70 220D - had no labels on the controls - at all. You
were expceted to have read the manual and learned them before driving the
car.
When I first drove it, it was still my Grandfather's. He let us take it into
Minneapolis one afternoon. It was dark when we left to return, and we
Sounds like my first time in the 911. Hot humid day, and it started to
rain. The windows all steamed up. I had to pull over to read the manual to
figure out how the climate control switches, levers, and buttons all
worked. I made it home ok, but I'm still not sure I know all the various
levers
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes:
Sounds like my first time in the 911. Hot humid day, and it started to
rain. The windows all steamed up. I had to pull over to read the manual to
figure out how the climate control switches, levers, and buttons all
worked. I made it home ok, but I'm still
sounds like a $200 car.
On 12/21/2010 7:48 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net writes:
That is great news, I hope it holds true. I have a whole bunch of
116's sitting around that I am thinking about sending to the crusher
as nobody wants 116 parts. Right now it
ML is a 'merican Mercedes, not a real Mercedes it seems.
That one thing I hate about the W163 - the controls are ALL in the worng
places! Head lights are twisting the turn signal stalk! A travesty! If I hit
a bump while resting my hand on the shifter - I downshift a gear!
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010
Dieselhead wrote:
ML is a 'merican Mercedes, not a real Mercedes it seems.
Real Mercedes can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwGNoXcvuo
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73-80, SD was 78-80
On 12/22/2010 9:16 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
When did the 116 actually start? I know the diesels were only '79 and '80...
A friend has a couple 116 300SDs and they fantastic road cars. Roomier than a
123 with road gripping weight but not ponderous like a Cadillac from the
Don, Your a bad boy. :-) My dad taught me to never lay a hand on
the shifter till I'm ready to shift. Bad for the synchronizers
you know.
Manfred
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:13:41 -0600
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4.5
Somehow, I don't think ANY of the G wagons around here have done anything
like that - probably haven't been off-road.
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Dieselhead wrote:
ML is a 'merican Mercedes, not a real Mercedes it seems.
Real Mercedes can do this:
I learned to fly and drive around the same time. I always kept one hand on
the throttle and the other on the stick (or wheel) in the airplane, and one
hand on the wheel, and the other on the shifter in the car (VW bug) -- been
doing it the same ever since. No trouble with syncros yet :-) , just
Most of the 4WD vehicles I see off road, other than farm pickups in a
field, are rolled over in a ditch, or in the ditch after a little
snow or ice.
If I can't get down the road in my MB or van with Blizzacks, it is
time to be home or holed up. The exception is 3/4 or one tons with
snow
Hi David,
Max is right... the best thing to do it keep in contact with the
classic center and Tom Hansen. They're quite dedicated to keeping the
enthusiasts well supplied with what they need. There have been parts
that go out of stock, then go back in production when demand is
suitable. (For
Sadly the number of running and/or repairable W108s is rapidly approaching
zero. They are very susceptible to rust (although not as badly as the W116s
are) and are vanishing. I haven't seen another one around here for a long,
long time.
It's also expensive to restore one and you end up with
I think this is a big part of what adds to a cars value, especially cars
that were made in such large numbers as mercedes. Once 30+ years pass, most
are gone. Of the ones left, most are junk or projects. Give it a few more
years, where those projects are either junked or parted out for spares,
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
valued for years. W116s are next (believe me, start buying them!).
In a few more years (maybe 10+), everyone will be collecting W123s,
and even W126s. Just watch.
I think even the rarer 124s (coupes and
I have one for sale. It is a 1969 280SEL. Maroon with Cognac interior.
Interior is good with the only exception the drivers seat has a silver
dollar size tear in the middle. The paint is new but a 100% crummy job. I
call this a 50/50 job. It looks great from fifty feet away going 50 mph. The
Jaime,
Thanks for your info on the W108 - I didn't even know it is a 108. I too think
they're only going to go up in value, and I also agree that there's lots of
folks on this list (me included) who are bottom feeders and thrive at the
'frugal' end of the scale.
I really want to get this
Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
W116s are next (believe me,
start buying them!). In a few more years (maybe 10+), everyone
will be collecting W123s, and even W126s. Just watch.
Well then, I'm ahead of the game. I have a collection of 123s
already!! *grin*
-- Philip
That is great news, I hope it holds true. I have a whole bunch of
116's sitting around that I am thinking about sending to the
crusher as nobody wants 116 parts. Right now it seems like the
123 and early 126 cars are the cheap beater cars (in that phase
right now). It would be great to get
I think the really good ones must first all be snapped up, before any
attention will turn to what's left, and where people will start putting
money into them as collectors. I'd still love a 560 SEL. They're out
there, but try to find a good one, that's worry of collecting right now.
Last year, I
Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:
That is great news, I hope it holds true. I have a whole bunch of
116's sitting around that I am thinking about sending to the crusher
as nobody wants 116 parts. Right now it seems like the 123 and early
126 cars are the cheap beater cars (in
Allan Streib wrote:
An acquaintance of mine is wanting to sell me his W116 300SD. It
frankly sounds like a basket case. He says it has no rust, but needs a
new crankshaft (?!) and the AC doesn't work, and the heater blower
doesn't work, and the vacuum system is leaking (has to use the stop
I (personally) always considered the W116 a transitional model for Mercedes.
I say that because they seemed to be in a sort of void engineering-wise
between the really basic analog models like the W108 or W111 and the later W123
and W126.
The styling was a little wonky, too. At least I
But Dan, they were such a huge jump from the 108/109 cars. They
established the classic layout of instruments and controls that were
used for many generations of cars. Suspension was much improved (ball
joints and rubber bushings!), and alot of these design features were
carried over onto the
I actually really like the look of the W116. Though I like the look of
pretty much all the older stuff as much if not more. I appreciate my
W123 for its engineering, but am ambivalent on how it looks.
Allan
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes:
I (personally) always considered the W116 a
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:
Allan Streib wrote:
An acquaintance of mine is wanting to sell me his W116 300SD. It
frankly sounds like a basket case. He says it has no rust, but needs a
new crankshaft (?!) and the AC doesn't work, and the heater blower
doesn't work, and the vacuum
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