Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-15 Thread Jim Cathey
I thought you were trying to come up with the name of the gizmo on the compressor. I can't remember its name. Tachometer. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-12 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 9:50 AM -0400 7/12/13, Rich Thomas wrote: Cheepchineechit meter for cars http://dx.com/p/mini-digital-blue-red-led-dc-current-meter-voltmeter-w-ampere-shunt-219592?utm_source=dx&utm_medium=edm&utm_campaign=20130711updatenewarrivals What self-respecting Benz owner is gonna mount THAT on the

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
I have a voltmeter very similar to the one from Wal-Mart. I observe that it is not particularly accurate and the reading is off by a good bit if the meter is hot (like sitting in a closed car). Still, it's convenient. > > MMM wrote: > > > > I use one of these widgets: > >  > > http://www.walmar

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-12 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond
crimp butt connectors onto the two wires. The butt connectors fit my DMM's probes perfectly. I'd already considered the 5v problem... -Curt  Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 22:26:58 -0500 From: Fmiser To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Message-ID: <20

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-11 Thread Fmiser
> > > Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like a VR to me, I've got a spare, I'll give it a > > > shot. I'm also going to gut an old 12v cellphone > > > charger to make test ports I can easily plug my > > > multimeter into for realtime monitoring. > > MMM wrote: > > > > I use one of these wid

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-11 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeahbut if I can cut apart an old phone charger and make one thats $17 in my pocket... -Curt Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:49:31 -0500 From: "M. Mitchell Marmel" To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-11 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 4:17 PM -0700 7/10/13, Curt Raymond wrote: Sounds like a VR to me, I've got a spare, I'll give it a shot. I'm also going to gut an old 12v cellphone charger to make test ports I can easily plug my multimeter into for realtime monitoring. I use one of these widgets: http://www.walmart.com/

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-11 Thread Dieselhead
I thought the gizmo on the compressor just reports compressor RPM, which the KLIMA compares to what it expects the compressor RPM to be, and shuts off the compressor if the numbers don't match. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: KLIMA relay shuts off th

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-11 Thread WILTON
Yep; KLIMA; that's it! Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? I agree, it's time to replace the VR, and clean the commutator

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jul 10, 2013 9:16 PM, "OK Don" wrote: > > I thought the gizmo on the compressor just reports compressor RPM, which > the KLIMA compares to what it expects the compressor RPM to be, and shuts > off the compressor if the numbers don't match. > That is correct, at least for the 124. If you go th

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread OK Don
I thought the gizmo on the compressor just reports compressor RPM, which the KLIMA compares to what it expects the compressor RPM to be, and shuts off the compressor if the numbers don't match. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > KLIMA relay shuts off th

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread Dieselhead
I agree, it's time to replace the VR, and clean the commutator while you're there. I finally rememembered the name of the thing that turns off the AC if the serpentine belts slips - the KLIMA relay - if anyone cares. KLIMA relay shuts off the power, but there is a gizmo on the compressor that d

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread OK Don
hen mt 79 TD had these symptoms it was indeed the VR (putting out too much > voltage). > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt > Raymond > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:17 PM > To: Diesel List > Subject:

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
When mt 79 TD had these symptoms it was indeed the VR (putting out too much voltage). -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:17 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Ga

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread Curt Raymond
ery itself. Fit perfectly, does the job, no more alternator light... -Curt From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? That nicely matches my theory and fits with why it takes a minute or so fo

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-10 Thread Dieselhead
Mission accomplished, a remarkably bright (for an Autozone employee) Autozone employee hooked me up with an H8 gold top Duralast ($5 more than the red top and 1000cca instead of 900). The H8 apparently replaces the group 49 and it even says so on the battery itself. Fit perfectly, does the job,

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 20:12:53 -0400 From: Dwight Giles To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Attaboy. Good to know about group 49 replacement. On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Curt Raymond wrote: > Mission

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-09 Thread Dwight Giles
H8 apparently replaces the group 49 and it even says so on the battery itself. > Fit perfectly, does the job, no more alternator light... > > -Curt > > > > From: Curt Raymond > To: Diesel List > Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 9:28 PM > Subj

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
, no more alternator light... -Curt From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? That nicely matches my theory and fits with why it takes a minute or so for the light to go out. I'v

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 19:22:43 -0500 OK Don wrote: > Wouldn't the gizmo whose name I'm forgetting shut off the AC if the > belt is slipping? Should be on all the serpentine belt cars. > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > > Could also be a slipping belt. Yes, there is supposed

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > > > Could also be a slipping belt. > OK wrote: > > Wouldn't the gizmo whose name I'm forgetting shut off the AC if > the belt is slipping? Should be on all the serpentine belt cars. Ah. On a 190D. I missed that first time through. I don't

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread WILTON
Bite the bullet. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? That nicely matches my theory and fits with why it takes a minute or so for the light to go out. I&#x

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Which ought to have an attendant screech shouldn't it? Remember this is a 190D, serpentine belt. Belt is quite new, maybe 6 mo. old. -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 18:42:00 -0500 From: Fmiser To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Message-ID: <201307081842

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
s the alternator. -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:13:59 -0700 From: G Mann To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators? Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you put a load tester on the old battery, I'm betting it will show it is no longer

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread OK Don
Wouldn't the gizmo whose name I'm forgetting shut off the AC if the belt is slipping? Should be on all the serpentine belt cars. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Fmiser wrote: > Could also be a slipping belt. > > -- Philip > > -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C18

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Fmiser
> Peter wrote: > > How old is the battery? Since you don't have an ammeter (which > I greatly prefer over an idiot light) it's hard to tell, but I > suspect you are drawing lots of amps all the time charging a > battery that's dead. When the aux fan kicks in you don't have > enough juice. Could

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread G Mann
If you put a load tester on the old battery, I'm betting it will show it is no longer capable of holding full charge when under load. Max AC puts load on battery, battery discharge rate is greater than it's now able to intake and hold charge, Alt output from regulator increases to try to make up t

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter Frederick
How old is the battery? Since you don't have an ammeter (which I greatly prefer over an idiot light) it's hard to tell, but I suspect you are drawing lots of amps all the time charging a battery that's dead. When the aux fan kicks in you don't have enough juice. Might check the aux fan to

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Bad battery or loose or dirty terminals. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/li

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Frederick Moir
Voltages under various conditions?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Curt Raymond >To: Diesel List >Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 1:23 PM >Subject: [MBZ] AC and alternators? > > >I hate to disrupt the airplane theorizing but

[MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-08 Thread Curt Raymond
I hate to disrupt the airplane theorizing but I've got a car question. Friday I noticed that if I had the AC on ('84 190D) the alternator light would glow on my car. If I turned the AC off the light would dim and after a couple minutes would go out completely. Its pretty hot here (80F when I got