Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-28 Thread Curt Raymond
You're from Maine and never saw anybody do that? My uncle does it every year. 
He had to give up his Dakota not because it rusted out but he didn't want to 
put a third clutch in at 350,000 miles.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
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I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
harsh winters and road salt was because they would
take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
on the undercarriage of the car.

You have to figure that it would be just like some
dirty Cosmoline on it, so it would probably work...

Dan

   
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-28 Thread Allan Streib

Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Doubt it.  When I was in Sweden 20 years ago it was hard
 to find any car on the roads older than about 10 years old.
 They have draconian inspection laws,

Absolutely true, I had forgotten about that.  For example (thinking of
Denmark), rust perforation (of any size, anywhere on the car) will fail
the inspection.  If you let your car get rusty, you won't be able to
drive it.  Thus, you don't see rusty cars on the road.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-28 Thread LWB250
I never said I was from Maine.or were you referring to someone else?

  I'm a Hoosier by birth.
   
  Dan
   
  
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You're from Maine and never saw anybody do that? My uncle does it every year. 
He had to give up his Dakota not because it rusted out but he didn't want to 
put a third clutch in at 350,000 miles.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
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I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
harsh winters and road salt was because they would
take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
on the undercarriage of the car.

You have to figure that it would be just like some
dirty Cosmoline on it, so it would probably work...

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-28 Thread E M
Rust perforation will fail you here too.

Ed
300E

On 28/03/2008, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  Doubt it.  When I was in Sweden 20 years ago it was hard
  to find any car on the roads older than about 10 years old.
  They have draconian inspection laws,

 Absolutely true, I had forgotten about that.  For example (thinking of
 Denmark), rust perforation (of any size, anywhere on the car) will fail
 the inspection.  If you let your car get rusty, you won't be able to
 drive it.  Thus, you don't see rusty cars on the road.

 Allan

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[MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread wilton strickland
Sometime in 1967, while I was on alert with B-52’s at Robins AFB, GA, our
alert facility manager, a strict and up-tight officer whom we called, “Major
Daddy,” suddenly decided that we aircrewmen should wash, wax and polish our
vehicles (four-door, crew-cab pickups), so that he could try to impress a
general visiting from higher headquarters.  Amongst the five officers on
each crew, there were grumblings, such as,  “If an officer prisoner of war
(POW) can’t be required to do manual labor, how can we be required to wash,
wax and polish these vehicles?”  We officers were somewhat angry.

We had finally decided that we would do it, though, and were prepared to
start the task as we returned to our parking space outside the alert
facility early one morning after performing the daily inspection of the
aircraft.  As we backed into our parking space, we noticed a sergeant (a
gunner on another B-52 crew) wiping lightly with a rag on the bright and
shiny truck beside us.  Only 20 minutes earlier, when we had left the
parking space to go out to the aircraft, that truck had been as drab dark
blue as ours and all the rest of them.  We jumped out of our vehicle and
asked the sergeant, “What have you done?  How did you do that?”  He replied,
“Bucket of water with a little Diesel fuel in it - just dip the rag in the
bucket and wipe the vehicle down with it.”  In about 10 minutes, all of the
alert vehicles were glistening in the sun with their new coats of Diesel
fuel - ‘worked well for several weeks, too, and didn’t look oily, etc.  They
really looked like they had been waxed.  We never said any more about it,
and we never heard any more about waxing vehicles.

By the way, this is in no way an endorsement for using Diesel fuel as a
substitute for a proper wax job, nor is it an endorsement for dishonesty
and/or deception - if anybody had asked us how we had “waxed” the vehicles
so fast, our answer, of course, would have been, “We wiped them down with a
thin coat of Diesel fuel”.  This is merely an example of innovative
compromise by a group of defiant B-52 aircrewmen 41 years ago.

LTCOL Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread pm7088
40 years ago I heard thru the grapevine that this exact system was used by a 
local funeral home on it's hearse and flower car.

Pete



-- Original message -- 
From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Sometime in 1967, while I was on alert with B-52’s at Robins AFB, GA, our 
 alert facility manager, a strict and up-tight officer whom we called, “Major 
 Daddy,” suddenly decided that we aircrewmen should wash, wax and polish our 
 vehicles (four-door, crew-cab pickups), so that he could try to impress a 
 general visiting from higher headquarters. Amongst the five officers on 
 each crew, there were grumblings, such as, “If an officer prisoner of war 
 (POW) can’t be required to do manual labor, how can we be required to wash, 
 wax and polish these vehicles?” We officers were somewhat angry. 
 
 We had finally decided that we would do it, though, and were prepared to 
 start the task as we returned to our parking space outside the alert 
 facility early one morning after performing the daily inspection of the 
 aircraft. As we backed into our parking space, we noticed a sergeant (a 
 gunner on another B-52 crew) wiping lightly with a rag on the bright and 
 shiny truck beside us. Only 20 minutes earlier, when we had left the 
 parking space to go out to the aircraft, that truck had been as drab dark 
 blue as ours and all the rest of them. We jumped out of our vehicle and 
 asked the sergeant, “What have you done? How did you do that?” He replied, 
 “Bucket of water with a little Diesel fuel in it - just dip the rag in the 
 bucket and wipe the vehicle down with it.” In about 10 minutes, all of the 
 alert vehicles were glistening in the sun with their new coats of Diesel 
 fuel - ‘worked well for several weeks, too, and didn’t look oily, etc. They 
 really looked like they had been waxed. We never said any more about it, 
 and we never heard any more about waxing vehicles. 
 
 By the way, this is in no way an endorsement for using Diesel fuel as a 
 substitute for a proper wax job, nor is it an endorsement for dishonesty 
 and/or deception - if anybody had asked us how we had “waxed” the vehicles 
 so fast, our answer, of course, would have been, “We wiped them down with a 
 thin coat of Diesel fuel”. This is merely an example of innovative 
 compromise by a group of defiant B-52 aircrewmen 41 years ago. 
 
 LTCOL Wilton 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Farmers used to spray the tractors, the idea being that the waxy residue was
a rust inhibitor. My ex-brother in law once got an oil ring on the fender
of his chalky old car (when teenagers married in the 70's, they couldn't
afford luxuries like nice cars) from putting a wet oil can on it, and decided
the oil ring didn't look chalky. Gave the entire car a rubdown with the
drain oil and it did look much better, at least for a while. OTOH, if you
get any used diesel oil on an old chalky white Benz, it looks horrible. 
My 300SD has sooty oil fingerprints on the left fender and I don't know
how I'll get rid of them. 

wilton strickland wrote:
 
 Sometime in 1967, while I was on alert with B-52’s at Robins AFB, GA, our
 alert facility manager, a strict and up-tight officer whom we called, “Major
 Daddy,” suddenly decided that we aircrewmen should wash, wax and polish our
 vehicles (four-door, crew-cab pickups), so that he could try to impress a
 general visiting from higher headquarters.  Amongst the five officers on
 each crew, there were grumblings, such as,  “If an officer prisoner of war
 (POW) can’t be required to do manual labor, how can we be required to wash,
 wax and polish these vehicles?”  We officers were somewhat angry.
 
 We had finally decided that we would do it, though, and were prepared to
 start the task as we returned to our parking space outside the alert
 facility early one morning after performing the daily inspection of the
 aircraft.  As we backed into our parking space, we noticed a sergeant (a
 gunner on another B-52 crew) wiping lightly with a rag on the bright and
 shiny truck beside us.  Only 20 minutes earlier, when we had left the
 parking space to go out to the aircraft, that truck had been as drab dark
 blue as ours and all the rest of them.  We jumped out of our vehicle and
 asked the sergeant, “What have you done?  How did you do that?”  He replied,
 “Bucket of water with a little Diesel fuel in it - just dip the rag in the
 bucket and wipe the vehicle down with it.”  In about 10 minutes, all of the
 alert vehicles were glistening in the sun with their new coats of Diesel
 fuel - ‘worked well for several weeks, too, and didn’t look oily, etc.  They
 really looked like they had been waxed.  We never said any more about it,
 and we never heard any more about waxing vehicles.
 
 By the way, this is in no way an endorsement for using Diesel fuel as a
 substitute for a proper wax job, nor is it an endorsement for dishonesty
 and/or deception - if anybody had asked us how we had “waxed” the vehicles
 so fast, our answer, of course, would have been, “We wiped them down with a
 thin coat of Diesel fuel”.  This is merely an example of innovative
 compromise by a group of defiant B-52 aircrewmen 41 years ago.
 
 LTCOL Wilton
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread Allan Streib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 40 years ago I heard thru the grapevine that this exact system was used
 by a local funeral home on it's hearse and flower car.

When I worked at Domino's Pizza years ago, they used some kind of thin
oil-based clean/shine fluid to keep their delivery cars shiny.  It
worked really well but I can't remember the name of it.  Probably a ZEP
product since that's who supplied all the cleaning supplies.

I'd think Diesel would be rather smelly for this purpose, though. 
Also I wonder what effect it would have on the paint, long-term.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote:
 My 300SD has sooty oil fingerprints on the left fender and I don't know
 how I'll get rid of them. 

Simple Green.  Works great :)

John


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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread LarryT
When I worked at a small dealership for Toyota (a real novelty in the late 
60s), Volvo, Triumph and Jaguar used to spray te engine compartment and 
under-carriage with a mix of diesel fuel and WD 40.  The results were 
spectaclar - all rubber parts glistened and all parts needing lubrication 
rec'd it.  Can't recall how long it lasted, but it really looked good for 
the time the cars were on the lot.

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Farmers used to spray the tractors, the idea being that the waxy residue was
a rust inhibitor. My ex-brother in law once got an oil ring on the fender
of his chalky old car (when teenagers married in the 70's, they couldn't
afford luxuries like nice cars) from putting a wet oil can on it, and 
decided
the oil ring didn't look chalky. Gave the entire car a rubdown with the
drain oil and it did look much better, at least for a while. OTOH, if you
get any used diesel oil on an old chalky white Benz, it looks horrible.
My 300SD has sooty oil fingerprints on the left fender and I don't know
how I'll get rid of them.

wilton strickland wrote:

 Sometime in 1967, while I was on alert with B-52's at Robins AFB, GA, our
 alert facility manager, a strict and up-tight officer whom we called, 
 Major
 Daddy, suddenly decided that we aircrewmen should wash, wax and polish 
 our
 vehicles (four-door, crew-cab pickups), so that he could try to impress a
 general visiting from higher headquarters.  Amongst the five officers on
 each crew, there were grumblings, such as,  If an officer prisoner of war
 (POW) can't be required to do manual labor, how can we be required to 
 wash,
 wax and polish these vehicles?  We officers were somewhat angry.

 We had finally decided that we would do it, though, and were prepared to
 start the task as we returned to our parking space outside the alert
 facility early one morning after performing the daily inspection of the
 aircraft.  As we backed into our parking space, we noticed a sergeant (a
 gunner on another B-52 crew) wiping lightly with a rag on the bright and
 shiny truck beside us.  Only 20 minutes earlier, when we had left the
 parking space to go out to the aircraft, that truck had been as drab dark
 blue as ours and all the rest of them.  We jumped out of our vehicle and
 asked the sergeant, What have you done?  How did you do that?  He 
 replied,
 Bucket of water with a little Diesel fuel in it - just dip the rag in the
 bucket and wipe the vehicle down with it.  In about 10 minutes, all of 
 the
 alert vehicles were glistening in the sun with their new coats of Diesel
 fuel - 'worked well for several weeks, too, and didn't look oily, etc. 
 They
 really looked like they had been waxed.  We never said any more about it,
 and we never heard any more about waxing vehicles.

 By the way, this is in no way an endorsement for using Diesel fuel as a
 substitute for a proper wax job, nor is it an endorsement for dishonesty
 and/or deception - if anybody had asked us how we had waxed the vehicles
 so fast, our answer, of course, would have been, We wiped them down with 
 a
 thin coat of Diesel fuel.  This is merely an example of innovative
 compromise by a group of defiant B-52 aircrewmen 41 years ago.

 LTCOL Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread Curt Raymond
A light coat of motor oil works too. Alot of snowmobile hoods are plastic and 
wax doesn't work very well. Motor oil works a treat.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:36:31 -0500
From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252

Sometime in 1967, while I was on alert with B-52?s at Robins AFB, GA,
 our
alert facility manager, a strict and up-tight officer whom we called,
 ?Major
Daddy,? suddenly decided that we aircrewmen should wash, wax and polish
 our
vehicles (four-door, crew-cab pickups), so that he could try to impress
 a
general visiting from higher headquarters.  Amongst the five officers
 on
each crew, there were grumblings, such as,  ?If an officer prisoner of
 war
(POW) can?t be required to do manual labor, how can we be required to
 wash,
wax and polish these vehicles??  We officers were somewhat angry.

We had finally decided that we would do it, though, and were prepared
 to
start the task as we returned to our parking space outside the alert
facility early one morning after performing the daily inspection of the
aircraft.  As we backed into our parking space, we noticed a sergeant
 (a
gunner on another B-52 crew) wiping lightly with a rag on the bright
 and
shiny truck beside us.  Only 20 minutes earlier, when we had left the
parking space to go out to the aircraft, that truck had been as drab
 dark
blue as ours and all the rest of them.  We jumped out of our vehicle
 and
asked the sergeant, ?What have you done?  How did you do that??  He
 replied,
?Bucket of water with a little Diesel fuel in it - just dip the rag in
 the
bucket and wipe the vehicle down with it.?  In about 10 minutes, all of
 the
alert vehicles were glistening in the sun with their new coats of
 Diesel
fuel - ?worked well for several weeks, too, and didn?t look oily, etc.
  They
really looked like they had been waxed.  We never said any more about
 it,
and we never heard any more about waxing vehicles.

By the way, this is in no way an endorsement for using Diesel fuel as a
substitute for a proper wax job, nor is it an endorsement for
 dishonesty
and/or deception - if anybody had asked us how we had ?waxed? the
 vehicles
so fast, our answer, of course, would have been, ?We wiped them down
 with a
thin coat of Diesel fuel?.  This is merely an example of innovative
compromise by a group of defiant B-52 aircrewmen 41 years ago.

LTCOL Wilton



   
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread LWB250
I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
harsh winters and road salt was because they would
take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
on the undercarriage of the car.

You have to figure that it would be just like some
dirty Cosmoline on it, so it would probably work...

Dan

--- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Farmers used to spray the tractors, the idea being
 that the waxy residue was
 a rust inhibitor. My ex-brother in law once got an
 oil ring on the fender
 of his chalky old car (when teenagers married in the
 70's, they couldn't
 afford luxuries like nice cars) from putting a wet
 oil can on it, and decided
 the oil ring didn't look chalky. Gave the entire car
 a rubdown with the
 drain oil and it did look much better, at least for
 a while. OTOH, if you
 get any used diesel oil on an old chalky white Benz,
 it looks horrible. 
 My 300SD has sooty oil fingerprints on the left
 fender and I don't know
 how I'll get rid of them. 



  

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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread Tom Hargrave
We used to the same with the rust bucket's we'd drive in Western NY State.

We would spray used oil up into the door panels  the channels along the
sides  just about every other closed in space with a garden sprayer once a
month in the winter.

But it was easy to do because the cars we drove in High School were already
pretty rotten, with plenty of pre-made access holes.

We also discovered that a stop sign was a perfect fit for the floor of a
1967 VW bug  it did not rust near as fast as the original floor pan...

Thanks,
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I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
harsh winters and road salt was because they would
take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
on the undercarriage of the car.

You have to figure that it would be just like some
dirty Cosmoline on it, so it would probably work...

Dan

--- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Farmers used to spray the tractors, the idea being
 that the waxy residue was
 a rust inhibitor. My ex-brother in law once got an
 oil ring on the fender
 of his chalky old car (when teenagers married in the
 70's, they couldn't
 afford luxuries like nice cars) from putting a wet
 oil can on it, and decided
 the oil ring didn't look chalky. Gave the entire car
 a rubdown with the
 drain oil and it did look much better, at least for
 a while. OTOH, if you
 get any used diesel oil on an old chalky white Benz,
 it looks horrible. 
 My 300SD has sooty oil fingerprints on the left
 fender and I don't know
 how I'll get rid of them. 



 


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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
 in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
 harsh winters and road salt was because they would
 take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
 on the undercarriage of the car.

I'm not at all sure that those countries actually use salt on their
roads.  Judging from the lack of potholes (you don't even see patched
ones much) and generally excellent road conditions I've seen in places
like Denmark, I'd say they either build the roads a lot better or they
don't use salt on them in the winter.

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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread E M
Read once, guys with old Fiat's used to mix oil with dust from a vacuum bag
to give it extra stick, and smear it inside the doors.

Ed
300E

On 27/03/2008, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
 in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
 harsh winters and road salt was because they would
 take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
 on the undercarriage of the car.

 You have to figure that it would be just like some
 dirty Cosmoline on it, so it would probably work...

 Dan

 --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Farmers used to spray the tractors, the idea being
  that the waxy residue was
  a rust inhibitor. My ex-brother in law once got an
  oil ring on the fender
  of his chalky old car (when teenagers married in the
  70's, they couldn't
  afford luxuries like nice cars) from putting a wet
  oil can on it, and decided
  the oil ring didn't look chalky. Gave the entire car
  a rubdown with the
  drain oil and it did look much better, at least for
  a while. OTOH, if you
  get any used diesel oil on an old chalky white Benz,
  it looks horrible.
  My 300SD has sooty oil fingerprints on the left
  fender and I don't know
  how I'll get rid of them.




   
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another use for Diesel fuel

2008-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
 I was told some years ago that one of the reasons cars
 in the Nordic countries rarely rusted out despite the
 harsh winters and road salt was because they would
 take their waste oil after an oil change and spray it
 on the undercarriage of the car.

Doubt it.  When I was in Sweden 20 years ago it was hard
to find any car on the roads older than about 10 years old.
They have draconian inspection laws, and a some kind of
tax-funded system that essentially gives you a new car
at that time.  All the old ones get crushed.  A bad place
to be a car collector, unless quite wealthy.  (Also a bad
place to try to be quite wealthy.)

Of course, the 90+% income taxes to pay for that kind of
thing sent plenty of them to the States to work for a few
years.  (Longer and their State-funded retirement is
compromised.)  I enjoyed taking a batch of them out to
lunch in the 60 Falcon.  Pre-restoration!  You'da though
I was trying to kill them the way they acted.  Was pretty
funny watching them pick bits of seat stuffing off their
clothes while griping about deathtraps...

I don't know if they use salt, it may be that they just
know how to drive on winter roads.  I wish we did it that
way here.

-- Jim


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