Thanks for the link. This sounds like a major obstacle- I don't think I
will look for an MB tow vehicle unless I get my hands on a working
differential first.
Tyler
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Tyler wrote:
I don't know what lockers or LSD options there are fo
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> No 124s came from the factory with LSD, only electronic traction
> control (mostly found in 500Es).
Fingers got ahead of my brain. I meant to write that no 124s came
from the factory *to the USA* with LSD except those with traction
contr
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Tyler wrote:
> I don't know what lockers or LSD options there are for W124s and W123s.
> Would the 190E 16v LSD work? I prefer a real locker to an LSD, but either is
> better than nothing.
No 124s came from the factory with LSD, only electronic traction
control (m
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
> I remember reading about a torque converter test whereby you hold the
> brake down and floor the accelerator and the engine RPM should reach
> the stall speed, which was l
I remember reading about a torque converter test whereby you hold the
brake down and floor the accelerator and the engine RPM should reach
the
stall speed, which was listed, but now I cannot find that test.
That's the test. And if the motor doesn't reach stall speed,
and is not otherwise puny
if I'd go so far as to say
better, most 4wds have low range which makes a world of difference...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:28:03 -0700
From: Tyler
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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with a W124 wagon?
Jamie,
I'm also towing a sailboat ('74 Catalina 22)- I highly recommend one as
it's cheap and very well made. It only weighs about 2200lbs, but the
trailer and gear bring it to about 3500. I'm currently towing it with a
beat up '87 Volvo 740 turbo wagon th
Interesting, a Catalina 22 is exactly what I had in mind when considering
the largest towable boat! Good to hear your experiences. I've been really
looking for a com-pac 19, but there aren't that many out there. Com-pac 23
would be ideal, but is getting too heavy and difficult to trailer in
gene
he weight of boat hit the trailer as he pulled
it out of the water he started to spin and slide backwards. As soon
as he started to slide he hit the brakes but he continued to slide
until the boat started to float...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:22:57 -0700
From: tyler
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any
it out of the water he started to spin and slide backwards. As soon
as he started to slide he hit the brakes but he continued to slide
until the boat started to float...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:22:57 -0700
From: tyler
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For pulling up a ramp, I think one could calculate reasonably well the
steepest ramp you could pull a g
You're right! I didn't question the calculations because they seemed to
be almost perfectly inline with my actual experience. When I tried my
Volvo on a very steep boat ramp (probably about 12 degrees?), the rig
didn't start moving at all until the engine hit the stall speed and the
turbo built
tyler wrote:
Searching in google, I did find some specs on the W123 300TD turbo. It
should be able to pull a 3500lb trailer up an incline of around 14-15
degrees- better than my Volvo 740T, primarily due to a lower 1st gear.
You seem to be forgetting the purpose of a torque converter, which is
Searching in google, I did find some specs on the W123 300TD turbo. It
should be able to pull a 3500lb trailer up an incline of around 14-15
degrees- better than my Volvo 740T, primarily due to a lower 1st gear.
Torque curve: http://www.zarnochwf1.com/node/18
I don't know the stall speed, but i
Jamie,
I'm also towing a sailboat ('74 Catalina 22)- I highly recommend one as
it's cheap and very well made. It only weighs about 2200lbs, but the
trailer and gear bring it to about 3500. I'm currently towing it with a
beat up '87 Volvo 740 turbo wagon that tows it very well, but I think
the
Mama's 300SD has a hitch on the back with a 1" (or whatever that smaller
size is) receiver, and has a ball that fits. The hitch looks like an
aftermarket, maybe custom deal. The PO towed a motorcycle on a little
trailer with it. I wouldn't tow anything but it would make a good bike
rack atta
Here's somebody who uses a hidden hitch on a Taurus wagon:
http://i38.tinypic.com/xoqptv.jpg
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John Robbins wrote:
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
What is your source for the 2100kg?
Errr... I don't exactly remember. I believe it is from the below site,
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/towing.html
They show 1900 for S124 stick and 2100 for S124 automatic.
Seems lik
WARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>
> > John, what is your source for the 2100kg? My technical data book says
>
> > 1700kg.
> >
> > Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okie
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
What is your source for the 2100kg?
Errr... I don't exactly remember. I believe it is from the below site,
but it is down right now so I can't verify. I do remember that it was
only for wagons, and you had to have a different radiator
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Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
> I also like the wiring kits they have there, I wonder if they are
> equivalent to
Allan Streib wrote:
Well that's not the only reason for trailer brakes. The mass of the
trailer means a lot of momentum, which pushes on the back end of your
car when you stop. If the roads are wet, or worse icy, or you're on
gravel, etc. you will have a tendency to fishtail or jacknife even if
Peter Hertzing wrote:
Where did you find the hitch. I have a 2200 pound popup that I would like
to pull with me 95 E320 but have never been able to find the hitch.
I found mine on PeachParts. You just have to be lucky/patient and wait
for one to pop up sometime. You can also search on eBay
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
I also like the wiring kits they have there, I wonder if they are
equivalent to the MB kits that have a little light for the instrument
panel.
Little light for the instrument panel? Could you elaborate a bit? The
wiring harness I have i
>Does the crossbar bolt to the car, or just the two longitudinals?
>Where to the longitudinals bolt to the car?
The two longitudinals go inside, next to two 'frame rails' that run
forward, and they bolt into the body there. The crossbar bolts to the
longitudinals through the body. It is *very*
Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
All interesting information, everyone!
I have a hitch like this installed:
http://www.kupplung.de/Anhaengerkupplungen/Anhaengerkupplung-starre-Ausfuehrung-MB0054.html?VIEW=PList
Does the crossbar bolt to the car, or just the two longitudinals?
Where to the longitudinal
October 14, 2009 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
All interesting information, everyone!
I have a hitch like this installed:
http://www.kupplung.de/Anhaengerkupplungen/Anhaengerkupplung-starre-Ausf
uehrung-MB0054.html?VIEW=PList
Where the
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
All interesting information, everyone!
I have a hitch like this installed:
http://www.kupplung.de/Anhaengerkupplungen/Anhaengerkupplung-starre
f Of John Robbins
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:06 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
>
> tyler wrote:
> > What is the factory rated towing capacity?
>
> In Europe it's 750kg without trailer brakes, 2100kg with.
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:19 -0400, "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" wrote:
> Confession: I do not have
> trailer brakes on my sailboat trailer, but never had a problem towing
> the boat, including a drive from Louisville KY to Charleston SC via the
> mountains. Braking and brake-
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
> My only concern is the car's ability to pull the boat and trailer up a
> launch ramp.
And a very real concern it should be, too. As that trailer rocks back
on the
: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
tyler wrote:
> What is the factory rated towing capacity?
In Europe it's 750kg without trailer brakes, 2100kg with. Sedans are
1500kg with brakes. In the US... 0 kg. No chassis/brake/driveline
differences that anybody knows about so I would roll with the
e 15k mile intervals!
Max
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Subject: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?
Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987
My only concern is the car's ability to pull the boat and trailer
up a launch ramp.
And a very real concern it should be, too. As that trailer
rocks back on the ramp it'll tend to lift the rear wheels off
the ground. My son and I got a free ride down an embankment
due to that factor. You'd wa
I sure as hell would not want to try it.
tyler wrote:
Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb
trailer? Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was
added? Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load? What
is the factory rated towing capac
Where did you find the hitch. I have a 2200 pound popup that I would like
to pull with me 95 E320 but have never been able to find the hitch.
Currently pulling with me 97 Volvo 960, but would like to divest myself of
that car. Only keeping it to tow
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Kopchin
Hi Tyler,John gives excellent information... I just installed a factory-like
euro hitch on my 95 E320 wagon, with rated 2100kg load. Thats 4600lbs! I'm
still searching for my towable toy (a sailboat), but I'm looking at for
3500lbs as my maximum. Its quite a bit of weight. In preparation for
to
tyler wrote:
What is the factory rated towing capacity?
In Europe it's 750kg without trailer brakes, 2100kg with. Sedans are
1500kg with brakes. In the US... 0 kg. No chassis/brake/driveline
differences that anybody knows about so I would roll with the European
ratings.
Does anyone know
Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb
trailer? Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was
added? Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load? What is
the factory rated towing capacity?
Tyler
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