WIlton, good to hear from you!
Keep meaning to as if you ever flew or flew aboard B-52 Calamity Jane
USAF 5500071
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That was a test to see if anyone was paying attention. You pass.
On Aug 11, 2016 8:09 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes"
wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
> > I love the sense of danger, not to mention the hilarity of it all
>
> There you go again. Too much Hillary.
> ...hilarity... Hillary
> ;-)
> mao
>
>
Andrew wrote:
> I love the sense of danger, not to mention the hilarity of it all
There you go again. Too much Hillary.
...hilarity... Hillary
;-)
mao
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I love the sense of danger, not to mention the hilarity of it all
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:45 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
> Yup - I don't even like electric flaps or retractable gear - - -
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It j
Yup - I don't even like electric flaps or retractable gear - - -
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> It just has to be comforting to fly into battle, and be shot at, while
> piloting an inherently unstable aircraft, built of parts made by the lowest
> bidder, controlled
That's sort of the way I feel while reading 90 percent of the posts on this
list.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> It just has to be comforting to fly into battle, and be shot at, while
> piloting an inherently unstable aircraft, built of parts made by the lowest
> b
It just has to be comforting to fly into battle, and be shot at, while
piloting an inherently unstable aircraft, built of parts made by the lowest
bidder, controlled by microchips, while doing violent maneuvers which
exceed the human bodies ability to survive and remain mentally
functional...
Yep.
That started with the F-16 back in the 70s I believe. Somewhere I have
some photos of the YF-12A (I think that is what it was called), the F-16
prototype, doing some maneuvers at Langley AFB. I was working at NASA
Langley as an intern in the Flight Research group where there were
various aircr
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:29:27 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
wrote:
>
>
> > It is comforting, at least, to know the guys who fly the B-52s
> > actually fly them, and other than auto pilot, no software can fly the
> > beasts.
>
> Unfortunately, the newer fighters are flown by digits, with min
It is comforting, at least, to know the guys who fly the B-52s
actually fly them, and other than auto pilot, no software can fly the
beasts.
Unfortunately, the newer fighters are flown by digits, with minor inputs
allowed by the human. (but only until they are completely robotic)
Curley Mc
.
Wilton
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From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Cc: "Max Dillon"
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52
Yes, but when the Grey Lady includes factually incorrect statements like
this "E
Well, having lived the real thing, it's hard for me to stay quiet and listen
to the revisionist BS, too.
Wilton
Don't even think about staying quiet! Speak out and correct the
revisionist BS like the swift boat guys did several years ago.
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Thanks for adding some color to that, I knew that but my email was wrong in
that respect. I guess I just get so PO'd at the PC/revisionist statements
in articles like that I stop thinking straight.
I do love the comments about "when the BUFF shows up, many times the enemy
will decide they don't
Well, having lived the real thing, it's hard for me to stay quiet and listen
to the revisionist BS, too.
Wilton
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Cc: "Meade Dillon"
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2
effect, told N. Viet,
> "You may do whatever you want without any interference from US."
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <
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> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Cc: &q
via Mercedes"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Cc: "Max Dillon"
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52
Yes, but when the Grey Lady includes factually incorrect statements like
this "Even after millions of tons of bombs were dropped in
Yes, but when the Grey Lady includes factually incorrect statements like this
"Even after millions of tons of bombs were dropped in far corners of the world,
most foes targeted by the bomber, including those in Iraq, Afghanistan and
Vietnam, ultimately prevailed." Political will (or rather a la
I did not know that. Very interesting. Learn something new every day.
--R
On 12/6/15 12:24 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_fuel
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
"the even faster B-70 (spew
No, merely very powerful turbojets.
Wilton
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From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"
To:
Cc: "Rich Thomas"
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52
"the even faster B-70 (spewed highly toxic exhaust)."
Was this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_fuel
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> "the even faster B-70 (spewed highly toxic exhaust)."
>
> Was this a nuclear fission engine?
>
> --R
>
> On 12/6/15 2:06 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes wrote:
>
>
"the even faster B-70 (spewed highly toxic exhaust)."
Was this a nuclear fission engine?
--R
On 12/6/15 2:06 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes wrote:
This is interesting
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/us/b-52s-us-air-force-bombers.html?mwrsm=Facebook
thanks,
xx rick
Rick Hawkins
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This is interesting
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/us/b-52s-us-air-force-bombers.html?mwrsm=Facebook
thanks,
xx rick
Rick Hawkins
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Hey, it is much easier for us.
There are not as many of us as there are of you folks south of the
border.
Plus, only hafom speak English...
-- Jim
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On 22/08/2014 10:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
So you're not like Canadians? You know, everybody knows each other, eh?
Dan it's late and I'm getting punchy
Hey, it is much easier for us.
There are not as many of us as there are of you folks south of the border.
Randy
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>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:20 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] B-52 question for WILTON
>
>
>> Is the B-52 pilot community small and tight for your generation of B-52
>&
There are many. 'Never met John Wagner; 'sorry.
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:20 PM
Subject: [MBZ] B-52 question for WILTON
Is the B-52 pilot comm
What was that fellas name again?
Hendrik
who did not fly B-52s or anything else for that matter
On 23/08/14 10:50, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
Is the B-52 pilot community small and tight for your generation of B-52 pilots?
My son has his FAA check rides in ABQ with an FAA guy whose name is
Is the B-52 pilot community small and tight for your generation of B-52 pilots?
My son has his FAA check rides in ABQ with an FAA guy whose name is
John Wagner and John Wagner used to fly B-52 and John Wagner is around
77 years old. Perhaps you know John Wagner?
...just curious...
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Rick wrote:
> Not_going_to_happen...
Let's say it again.
Not_going_to_happen...
I don't want to see it.
The remainder of the planet will stand around spouting words of wisdom
as they wring their hands.
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> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 strkes
>
>
> Not_going_to_happen...
>>
>> Rick
>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>> Original
Yep, one probably could.
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 strkes
Not_going_to_happen...
Rick
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
O
Not_going_to_happen...
Rick
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
Original Message
From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 1:41 PM
To: WILTON; Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 strkes
I think one would do the job, if done
I think one would do the job, if done properly.
--R
On 8/21/14 2:37 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
I'm 'bout ready to volunteer my services for BUFF strikes on ISIL.
Wilton
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I'm 'bout ready to volunteer my services for BUFF strikes on ISIL.
Wilton
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Peter wrote:
> There is a role for a heavy support bomber, but a newer aircraft would be a
> good idea.
Yeah, like maybe... military version of Dreamliner?
Wait, the cost must exceed the 350 million cost of F-22 per copy.
Yes, newer aircraft would be a good idea, but too much gizmo is
included. F
Current US strategic bomber inventory:
B-1:66
B-2:20
B-52: 58
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Frederick
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:44 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52. was
My understanding is that the B-70 was built (2? prototypes) to cause the
rooshans to soil their collectivist drawers and to spend huge amounts of
money attempting to defend against it, at the same time ballistic
missile defense was being touted, also causing the rooshans to soil
their collectiv
ist"
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52. was: Asiana
The B-52 serves the role of big and slow strategic bomber. This is an
obsolete role, since strategic bombing became a moot point when the ICBM
became operational in the late 50's. The need for a high bo
The B-52 serves the role of big and slow strategic bomber. This is an
obsolete role, since strategic bombing became a moot point when the
ICBM became operational in the late 50's. The need for a high bomb
load aircraft didn't go away, so we are stuck with truly ancient
equipment because a
The B-52 has been in active service with the USAF since 1955. As of 2012, 58
remain in service with nine in reserve. The bombers flew under the Strategic
Air Command (SAC) until it was inactivated in 1992 and its aircraft absorbed
into the Air Combat Command (ACC); in 2010 all B-52 Stratofortres
Definitely what Wilton needs, yo. That with some dubs and faux crocodile skin
interior, pure chick magnet.
Allan Streib wrote:
>Saw a Chevy Impala equipped with one of these today
>
>http://www.b-52pro.com/products/MX18S.html
>
>Allan
>
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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http://www.b-52pro.com/products/MX18S.html
Allan
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Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to check it out!
Ed
300E
On 27 January 2012 21:45, Fmiser wrote:
> > Captain Ed wrote:
> >
> > Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best
> > Concorde, and 747 ? I've watched numerous videos of the flight
> > deck of Concorde, on YouTube. It would be
> Captain Ed wrote:
>
> Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best
> Concorde, and 747 ? I've watched numerous videos of the flight
> deck of Concorde, on YouTube. It would be fun to play around
> with a flight simulator on the PC. :-)
Don't know about "best" - but I like Flightgear
ht
for them and the tough, brave souls who
flew them."
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters
Try dumping some of th
Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best Concorde, and 747 ?
I've watched numerous videos of the flight deck of Concorde, on YouTube.
It would be fun to play around with a flight simulator on the PC. :-)
Captain Ed.
300E
On 27 January 2012 15:23, Fmiser wrote:
> > WILTON wrote:
>
> WILTON wrote:
> Much more typical, en route cruise for a B-52 is at 35 or 37
> kft (easily go much higher); IAS 238 kts, MACH .77, 444 kts
> TAS; combat cruise at 250 kts IAS, mach .82, 470 kts TAS.
> Easily go significant faster. I've seldom known a B-52 to
> stay at 25 kft long.
> Cruising a
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 27 January 2012 12:01, WILTON wrote:
>
>> Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Fmiser"
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
>
;
>> Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Fmiser"
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
>>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:40 AM
>
ne of those old
birds!!
Ed
300E
On 27 January 2012 12:01, WILTON wrote:
Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS
Wilton
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:40 AM
Subj
ssage -
From: "E M"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters
Try dumping some of that cargo in the bays, see if it doesn't help
performance somewhat. ;-) Just don't do i
old
birds!!
Ed
300E
On 27 January 2012 12:01, WILTON wrote:
> Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Fmiser"
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Friday, January 27,
Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS
Wilton
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters
WILTON
> WILTON wrote:
> Stirred up? Who, me?! Maybe y'oughta consider "mega" as in
> "tons" while I'm calling in a B-52 strike. ;<)))
Speaking of.
I was "flying" a B-52 on the computer simulator the other day.
And I'm curious - what is the cruising speed? With 100%
"throttle" I never seemed to be
'Cept that, yes. When it gets to 3, (or 2 in different pods) you really
start getting concerned.
Wilton
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 power
The
: [MBZ] B-52 power
...A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very
large,
multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders...
Yes, but when you have eight engines, loss of one is less of an issue..
RLE
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In fact, loss of one or 2 was HARDLY and issue.
Wilton
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:07 PM
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...A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large,
multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders
> ...A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large,
> multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders...
>
Yes, but when you have eight engines, loss of one is less of an issue..
RLE
>
>
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