Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Amazing we have the greatest computer ever invented carefully placed between our ears yet we "buy into" vehicles that try to outsmart that computer. The brain computer has built in hard limits that do not allow self destruction without deliberate override the car electric devices

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On September 16, 2017 at 8:59 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > I think there might already be some of that. Have you not seen the ford > vehicles that will parallel park themselves, or the trucks that will back the > trailer itself? I'm not sure

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The future is already here and has been for awhile.  I think all the newer Benzes are steer by wire. --R On 9/16/17 2:39 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Peter wrote: Brake by wire is standard these days -- any car with "collision avoidance" systems has brake by wire. As stupid an idea as

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-17 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Peter wrote: > > > > > > Brake by wire is standard these days -- any car with > > > "collision avoidance" systems has brake by wire. > > > > > > As stupid an idea as I've ever seen. > > fmiser wrote: > > > > First it was fuel by wire, then brake by wire. > > > > Steer by wire is next. >

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I think there might already be some of that. Have you not seen the ford vehicles that will parallel park themselves, or the trucks that will back the trailer itself? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2017, at 1:39 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> Peter wrote: > >> Brake

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Steer by wire is already here. More stupidity, and another reason I don't want a new car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Some idiot. Not only does it increase the cost to work on these, they’re inherently dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing, and you almost have to have the Star diagnostic computer to reset everything if you touch them. -D > On Sep 15, 2017, at 11:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-16 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Peter wrote: > Brake by wire is standard these days -- any car with "collision > avoidance" systems has brake by wire. > > As stupid an idea as I've ever seen. First it was fuel by wire, then brake by wire. Steer by wire is next. ___

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Brake by wire is standard these days -- any car with "collision avoidance" systems has brake by wire. As stupid an idea as I've ever seen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 17:17:49 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > It also powers the electrically operated brakes if the charging system > fails. > > Keep a good one in there, you will have only the parking brake of you > lose an alternator and the backup is

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Peter writes: >‎ also powers the electrically operated >brakes if the charging system fails. >Keep a good one in there, you will have >only the parking brake of you lose an >>alternator and the backup is bad Ain't technology great! Rick No offense meant to those here with careers or

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
It also powers the electrically operated brakes if the charging system fails. Keep a good one in there, you will have only the parking brake of you lose an alternator and the backup is bad Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:46:47 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > It's a small battery that keeps the electronics powered when the main > battery is removed. Oh! It would seem that if that one was working properly, one could change the SLA (starting, lighting,

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's a small battery that keeps the electronics powered when the main battery is removed. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:43:10 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > >>

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:43:10 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > The wee battery. The small one under the bonnet. Auto-correct got you again? Craig > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:36:29 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> And,

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The wee battery. The small one under the bonnet. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:36:29 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > >> And, what are the chances

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:36:29 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > And, what are the chances that the Wii battery under the hood is still > OK? I guess I can just take a reading on it. Wii battery? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You have to have the special high dollar dealer tool to swap the battery or YOUR pistons will MELT Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > SWMBO went out to go to work this morning and when she climbed into the '05 >

[MBZ] Battery Crapped Out on W211

2017-09-15 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
SWMBO went out to go to work this morning and when she climbed into the '05 320, she said she saw the clock running backwards. Strange, she thought. So she tried to start it and nothing except for a message on the computer saying the battery is suspect. I've never replaced the battery on this.