BioD *is* different; in a good way.
the flash point of BioD is listed in several places i found as ± 150°C
as opposed to petroleum diesel at ± 70°C.
it's unlikely that regular old #2 would even be a fire hazard in a
leak, and with the even higher flash point of Biod it's extremely
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Oh wow, it's a glorious day. I have the privilege of answering the question
from Herr Doktor. The flash point of BioD is over 300o F.
http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/Envi&Safetyinfo.PDF
Luther, a satisfied man
Thanks Luther, and the link is a good one.
Marshall
Oh wow, it's a glorious day. I have the privilege of answering the question
from Herr Doktor. The flash point of BioD is over 300o F.
http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/Envi&Safetyinfo.PDF
Luther, a satisfied man
Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> What's the flash point of bioD?
B Dike wrote:
Everybody: I have been running various blends and formulations of biodiesel in
my 4 diesels for a couple years now. Here's what I found:
1. New standard braided injector return lines can fail catastrophically in
less than one year, spraying the engine compartment with fuel a
To my knowledge vegetable oil needs to be at like 600F or higher before it
might potentially ignite. So, I suppose it's possible on the turbo or
something (Pretty sure an oil leak on the turbo/exhaust is what cause the
fire on an old Impulse I had). Not sure what the temp is of diesel. A
spark
On Fri, 26 May 2006 20:45:45 -0700 (PDT) B Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, you might smell the leak and pull over if one fails, but a family
> member might not recognize the problem until a fire breaks out.
One of the "advantages" of petroleum diesel is that it's not very
flammable, so the
Everybody: I have been running various blends and formulations of biodiesel in
my 4 diesels for a couple years now. Here's what I found:
1. New standard braided injector return lines can fail catastrophically in
less than one year, spraying the engine compartment with fuel and creating a
Levi Smith wrote:
Exactly. I'm just saying that the fact remains that there IS a good chance
you will find some new leaks when switching an old(er) engine to synthetic.
I just saw "old wives tail" about synthetic leaking and I wanted to point
out while chances are good that there WON'T be any pr
Exactly. I'm just saying that the fact remains that there IS a good chance
you will find some new leaks when switching an old(er) engine to synthetic.
I just saw "old wives tail" about synthetic leaking and I wanted to point
out while chances are good that there WON'T be any problems, it's defini
redghost wrote:
I suspect that you should have all the fuel hoses ready to replace if
you are taking your 20+ year old car and going BioD on it. The things
are old and will fail one way or the other. At least this way you have
the spare ready to replace the leaky ones.
I thought every
Levi Smith wrote:
As for the synthetic, it's all in how you look at it.
I've experienced first-hand how synthetic "causes leaks". I switched to
synthetic one weekend and then within an hour I had an oil feed line for the
turbo that was spraying a stream of oil.
Now, I don't think synthetic dug
I suspect that you should have all the fuel hoses ready to replace if
you are taking your 20+ year old car and going BioD on it. The things
are old and will fail one way or the other. At least this way you have
the spare ready to replace the leaky ones.
On Tuesday, May 23, 2006, at 01:44
On May 24, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Levi Smith wrote:
I switched to
synthetic one weekend and then within an hour I had an oil feed
line for the
turbo that was spraying a stream of oil.
I would call that a coincidence, no way synthetic oil cleans
anything that fast.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefor
Well, I'm not too worried about the rubber lines with bio. The other part
I've heard is that there aren't many "rubber" lines that are made with
"natural rubber" that are more susceptible to being eaten by bio. I
certainly don't blame wvo for a leak I had on a worn out cracked and split
return l
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Is Viton the super secret good stuff?
Viton has very good chemical-resistant properties. In my previous job
at a carwash manufacturer we made heavy use of Viton seals for valves
and fittings that carried soaps. A lot of the soaps contained
D-Limonene, a powerful degre
Good point, OK Don.
Bob Rentfro
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From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty
As someone pointe
As someone pointed out earlier - everyone (almost) running BioD is
doing it in an old car - and most don't replace all the hoses before
starting on the BioD. I suspect (NO Evidence) that most reports of
leaking hoses caused by BioD are coincidental failures of old hoses.
On 5/23/06, Levi Smith <[
Yes. They will eventually deteriorate with biodiesel.
Just like they will eventually deteriorate with regular diesel.
Levi :)
On 5/23/06, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I thought there were more hoses routinely effected.
My assumption was that any rubber lines in the system, those tha
kevin kraly wrote:
I thought there were more hoses routinely effected.
My assumption was that any rubber lines in the system, those that are at
both ends of the main metal fuel lines, would eventually deteriorate when
using biodiesel.
All of the fuel hoses WILL eventually deteriorate. Bio wi
I thought there were more hoses routinely effected.
My assumption was that any rubber lines in the system, those that are at
both ends of the main metal fuel lines, would eventually deteriorate when
using biodiesel.
Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204Kmiles, Giesela
one of the reasons i specifically picked the 617.952 was for the tolerance
attributed to the inline pump they use.
while one local IP rebuilder sends his rebuilt units back with big
warning tags prohibiting the use of BioD at the risk of invalidating
his warranty, i'm not aware of anyone in the
I've been inside several inline MB pumps, and other than the delivery valve
o-rings, there don't appear to be any rubber seals that come into direct
contact with the fuel--fuel pump itself notwithstanding. Rotary distributor
type pumps (think VW) are bathed and lubricated entirely by fuel, so I d
On May 23, 2006, at 5:10 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:
many people i know using BioD over the last few years haven't
changed
theirs out at all. i haven't changed mine out yet, and i run almost
exclusively B100; but i've only got about 30,000 miles on B100 so
far,... ;-)
cheers!
e
Wha
Zeitgeist wrote:
Agreed, which is why I don't see much need to touch any of your other fuel
lines...but, the return lines are subjected to a fair amount of heat, which
I believe is the real culprit. I've personally observed return lines
lasting no more than a year before becoming hard and brittl
Bob Rentfro wrote:
Forgive me Kaleb...I'm double-posting this 'cause I'm not sure if rusty looks
at the Bio list.
Let's say someone (Rusty) was going to make a
these-are-the-hoses-that-usually-need-replacing-at-some-point-when-you-start-running-bio
kit. Which hoses would be included? It would
Agreed, which is why I don't see much need to touch any of your other fuel
lines...but, the return lines are subjected to a fair amount of heat, which
I believe is the real culprit. I've personally observed return lines
lasting no more than a year before becoming hard and brittle to the point of
Ahh...30K miles on B100..no leaks yet.
I love emperical data.
Bob Rentfro
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From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio S
Bob,
FWIW, i think a lot of the concern over changing hoses to use BioD is
somewhat overblown; i watch the fuel lines as i would on any vehicle
that's decades old (as most of ours are), and will change them when i
see signs that they need it.
many people i know using BioD over the last few
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty
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> > Injector fuel return hose
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From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty
> It would be worth it, if Rusty were to offer Viton return lines,
> specifically for ru
Is Viton the super secret good stuff?
Is replacing stock hoses with Viton a good idea?
Bob Rentfro
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:56 PM
Sub
It would be worth it, if Rusty were to offer Viton return lines,
specifically for running bio. Otherwise, he already offers OEM fuel return
line "kits".
On 5/23/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If the injector return hoses are the only ones, then that is hardly worth
making a package
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio Standby Hose Package-Rusty
Injector fuel return hoses are the only ones that consistently give people
trouble. Apparently it's the combination of heat and bio that overwhelms
them.
On 5/23/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMA
Let me know all the hoses and I'll make a package.
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