Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2008-01-17 Thread Zeitgeist
I still haven't fixed mine, 'cause I can't seem to find the time to put it back together. I figured out that the fan was dying, but there may still be other issues to resolve once I get back on the project. I bought an Audi Quattro wagon to drive in the meantime, and its ACC works just dandy

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2008-01-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 16, 2008 6:55 PM, Kevin Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So how does one determine if you have an older or newer 87 model? > With regards to the fan fuse? Easy, it's either in the fusebox or not. If not, it's unmistakable---on my car, it's a big steel-colored strip fuse with "30A" sta

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2008-01-17 Thread Kevin Slater
Crazy how these things go together in bunches. I've been experiencing the same things that Casey has. A couple of days in the last few weeks the fan has come on, but it seems if I touch the fan buttons it stops and I'm back to only forced air. Not a problem on the highway trips, but not good when i

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:45:34 -0800 Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I pulled the blower (without the benefit of a manual), and the > brushes and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, > is the huge amount of grunge-buildup on the heater core fins. It's > almost ent

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, is the > huge > amount of grunge-buildup on the heater core fins. It's almost entirely > occluded any passage of air through there. It looks a lot like the > texture > of velour. Weird stuff, isn't it? Looks like flocking made f

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well thats the evaporator, not the heater core, but yes it does need to be cleaned. They sell a cleaner for that. Zeitgeist wrote: > Well, I pulled the blower (without the benefit of a manual), and the brushes > and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, is the huge > amount

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-28 Thread Zeitgeist
Well, I pulled the blower (without the benefit of a manual), and the brushes and commutator are toasterrific. What's even more disturbing, is the huge amount of grunge-buildup on the heater core fins. It's almost entirely occluded any passage of air through there. It looks a lot like the texture

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-28 Thread Dave M.
Yikes, Casey. That's a scary photo. And I thought my 300E was bad! What I did to clean the fins was use a shop vacuum, and a toothbrush, to scrape and suck away as much as possible, without pushing it further into the core. I then used a foaming evaporator cleaner from a local HVAC supply store to

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> I was under the impression that a failed monovalve would > provide heat at idle gradually cooling as the vehicle > picked up speed. That's certainly one symptom. Full heat can be another. A failed electrical portion (or wiring thereto) of the monovalve would do it. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Dave M.
Casey, Are you getting any fan output at all? If not, I'd check the fan fuse, which is either a 25A fuse in the fusebox on early 87's, or a 30A flat strip fuse outside the fusebox on late '87 models. The monovalve and vac system default into full-heat mode, but if there's no airflow from the fan,

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Hendrik & Fay
> Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:32 AM > Subject: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode >

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Fred Johnson
Jim, On your website you mention that full heat all the time regardless of temp. settings, buttons pushed or vehicle speed could be a symptom of monovalve failure. I've been expereiencing this for the past two months and was wondering what else it might be. I was under the imporession that a fa

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> Ah, so I'm presently experiencing a complete failure with my the > climate > control in my '87 300TD, You can also run the diagnostic checklist from my site: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Zeitgeist
Ah yes, I forgot one little detail...my fan has been making some ominous noises as of late--sorta like a jet taking off. I assumed I'd still receive some semblance of heat, even if the fan went completely TU. Is there any reason to buy the fan motor with both the squirrel cages attached, especial

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Bad temperature sensors. You can check them from the right hand connector on the pushbutton unit. A bad aux pump can cause all sorts of trouble, too, but shutting off outputs all the time. Default is full heat with low or no blower and full defrost, so if you are getting hot air out the winds

Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
nt: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode > Ah, so I'm presently experiencing a complete failure with my the climate > control in my '87 300TD, which sorta sucks...you know, being that it's > sub-freezing and all. Right now I'

[MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode

2007-12-26 Thread Zeitgeist
Ah, so I'm presently experiencing a complete failure with my the climate control in my '87 300TD, which sorta sucks...you know, being that it's sub-freezing and all. Right now I'm getting no heat or fan output at all. I thought the default failure mode would kick the mono-valve wide open, allowing