That puzzles me, that it did work before, poorly, but now with one change
(bushings) it doesn't work.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
On May 20, 2015 1:41:07 AM EDT, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
In my mind's eye, I see the bands thing, but do not know enough
On May 19, 2015 at 1:11 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
There are two sources of stall torque I can think of within
the AT: 1) The TC's stator is just that: static, so if the
TC's vanes are dragging on it that'd do it. 2) The internal
clutch packs/bands are
In my mind's eye, I see the bands thing, but do not know enough about how the
transmission works for that to take place. The PO spent a few hundred $$ last
summer dealing with a problem shift issue. Maybe the dork at the shop adjusted
things to even out the shift, but did not install the
I am uneducated on just how it all is mated. From screwing around with it I
know that I can fire off the engine and get it running. It will stay running
as long as it is in Park or Neutral. Torque converter must sort of be spinning
around slowly, maybe? Parking pawl was not engaging prior
No car, just the OM615 mated to a manny trans. No pedals or plumbing to be had
clay
On May 18, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
There is a OM615 with four speed available, but I would need to plumb the
car for a clutch
clay
That is easy. When you pull the parts and
You're right, the TC is in series with the whole mess.
No way the car should be able to stall out unless the
TC is misbehaving, or the engine is running like total
crap.
A TC dragging inside enough to kill the engine is
probably filling the tranny with shavings. I'd swap
them both out.
-- Jim
There are two sources of stall torque I can think of within
the AT: 1) The TC's stator is just that: static, so if the
TC's vanes are dragging on it that'd do it. 2) The internal
clutch packs/bands are receiving conflicting demands,
and the thing is trying somehow to go into both forwards
and
There is a OM615 with four speed available, but I would need to plumb the car
for a clutch
clay
On May 15, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
I'd try to find a decent used transmission. Maybe time to swap in a manual
version.
-
Max
Charleston SC
The whole theory of the car is that it will be entered in the 24 hours of
LeMons race next year. My budget is limited by their rules that getting it
running and purchase price can not exceed $500. I am scouring Freecycle and
the freebie section of CL for all I can repurpose to get it going.
So, the TC is toast in your description. That sort of makes sense. Still
would need to remove the trans to install a fresh TC.
clay
On May 15, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
I would call a transmission shop, it's not possible to for the transmission
to lock up and
There is a OM615 with four speed available, but I would need to
plumb the car for a clutch
clay
That is easy. When you pull the parts and pedals, take out the short
piece of tubing and the hose. Plumbing done. The master cyl comes
out with the pedals.
Local tranny from PnP is in the $99 range. I am assuming any trans from the
1975-1979 era benz will work. 722.1xx or is it .0xx? Either way, I am not
well versed on why the trans is producing more torque than the engine can
defeat. If I had a clean room, I would gladly do a rebuild with a
: [MBZ] Cursed 300D
On May 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
What is the consensus of the group? Gamble on a used one, or plow cash into
rebuilding it?
A factory rebuild is worth more than the car.
Expect a local shop would charge similar.
Can you
On 15/05/2015 5:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
Can you install a friction materials, gasket and seal kit yourself?
Can you get such a kit for a 722.3 for around $200?
That was my initial thought.
Get a kit and do it yourself.
Document the process and put it on youtube and make a
I would call a transmission shop, it's not possible to for the
transmission to lock up and stall the engine, it has to be a bad
converter. Worst case a locked up tranny would simply never let then
engine get much above idle, but it can only stall if the torque
converter is locked, not the
There is a guy on the BenzWorld W140 forum that is essentially self-taught on
722.xx transmissions. He claims that they’re no more difficult to rebuild than
a domestic slushbox.
Dan
On May 15, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
On 15/05/2015 5:00
On May 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
What is the consensus of the group? Gamble on a used one, or plow cash into
rebuilding it?
A factory rebuild is worth more than the car.
Expect a local shop would charge similar.
Can you install a friction
.
-Curt
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I'd try to find a decent used transmission. Maybe time to swap
I got a call from the shop to please have the car towed home, not two hours
after it arrived there. It was drug home and sits waiting for me to decide
whether it goes to a scrap yard or I toss cash at it.
The transmission seems to be massively screwed up. The plates or something are
locking
, May 15, 2015 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cursed 300D
I'd try to find a decent used transmission. Maybe time to swap in a manual
version.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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I'd try to find a decent used transmission. Maybe time to swap in a manual
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Max
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It all depends on what you intend to do with the car - - is it A: a long
term keeper/driver, or B: just a winter beater?
If A, get a rebuilt tranny, or if you are adventurous, do the many
conversion.
If B, get a junk yard tranny and hope . . .
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Ohh, that'd be sweet. Matt Cama (sp?) told me that the 4spd really woke up
the NA 5cyl and made
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 5:18 PM
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We enjoyed the 185 kmi we put on our many tranny '80 240D before it T-boned
a ragged pickup driven by uninsured motorist who suddenly
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