Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Just got in from clearing the driveway (mostly, I only did enough to get to work tomorrow, the rest can wait until the snow quits falling) and measured 8 1/2 but being that its powder that could be drifted one way or the other. I'd guess its low but thats just a guess. Got my '79 Polaris Cobra 340cc out (the other two that run are on the trailer) and promptly got stuck. Vintage sleds are difficult in deep snow because of limited suspension travel. You bottom out on the footboards and the track spins. I learned how to deal with it today though, power Power POWER! Get on the throttle and give 'er hell. When it starts to slow down rock side to side to pack the snow under the footboards and gain traction. Worked sweet, I bombed all over the yard. Took the Go-Pro with me, should have something neat on it. At one point I had the Go-Pro clipped to the left side footboard (I've got the clip on mount) and made a sharp left turn, the camera dipped under the snow like it was a boat in a big swell. Hope that came out... -Curt From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? Take your passport just in case. Rain sleet here on top of 4 of fresh wet snow. On Feb 2, 2015 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
On 02/02/2015 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Just got in from clearing the driveway (mostly, I only did enough to get to work tomorrow, the rest can wait until the snow quits falling) and measured 8 1/2 but being that its powder that could be drifted one way or the other. I'd guess its low but thats just a guess. Got my '79 Polaris Cobra 340cc out (the other two that run are on the trailer) and promptly got stuck. Vintage sleds are difficult in deep snow because of limited suspension travel. You bottom out on the footboards and the track spins. I learned how to deal with it today though, power Power POWER! Get on the throttle and give 'er hell. When it starts to slow down rock side to side to pack the snow under the footboards and gain traction. Worked sweet, I bombed all over the yard. Took the Go-Pro with me, should have something neat on it. At one point I had the Go-Pro clipped to the left side footboard (I've got the clip on mount) and made a sharp left turn, the camera dipped under the snow like it was a boat in a big swell. Hope that came out... -Curt So, does that mean that you have the sort of flat rubber track on the Polaris? Pretty much like the track on the old Skidoo? There were also cleated tracks available. I don't think they lasted as long but they sure had traction. One could pretty much go anywhere with those. Arctic Cat had the cleated tracks too back then. We had a friend who had a Polaris twin - free air style with the engine jugs sticking up through a hole in the cowling and it had the cleated track. I remember him going up a steep hill in deep fresh powder and not even slowing down. My machine had the flatter rubber track and I would get stuck just about anywhere. I could not climb the hill even if I followed in his track. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
This machine has a cleated track, its an odd one because its an all the way across cleat on a '79. Most cleated tracks were 2/3 alternating by then. The 2/3 tracks are much more stable and less likely to ice skate if you fish tail on ice. Cleated tracks suck, they're heavy, rotten on ice and in powder they dig too much so if you don't keep on the power you sink like a stone. The early Ski-Doo rubber tracks are much lighter but only used a 1/4 lug so they don't do much in powder but are much better (though still poor) than a cleated track on ice. By about '73 Ski-Doo had gone to a 3/4 rubber lug track that was vastly superior to cleated tracks. Polaris and Arctic Cat hung on to cleats through about 1980 or '81 before they gave them up. All the cool kids with the muscle sleds convert from cleated to rubber tracks. Cleated tracks are pretty much banned in racing because the cleats become projectiles if the track throws one... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? On 02/02/2015 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Just got in from clearing the driveway (mostly, I only did enough to get to work tomorrow, the rest can wait until the snow quits falling) and measured 8 1/2 but being that its powder that could be drifted one way or the other. I'd guess its low but thats just a guess. Got my '79 Polaris Cobra 340cc out (the other two that run are on the trailer) and promptly got stuck. Vintage sleds are difficult in deep snow because of limited suspension travel. You bottom out on the footboards and the track spins. I learned how to deal with it today though, power Power POWER! Get on the throttle and give 'er hell. When it starts to slow down rock side to side to pack the snow under the footboards and gain traction. Worked sweet, I bombed all over the yard. Took the Go-Pro with me, should have something neat on it. At one point I had the Go-Pro clipped to the left side footboard (I've got the clip on mount) and made a sharp left turn, the camera dipped under the snow like it was a boat in a big swell. Hope that came out... -Curt So, does that mean that you have the sort of flat rubber track on the Polaris? Pretty much like the track on the old Skidoo? There were also cleated tracks available. I don't think they lasted as long but they sure had traction. One could pretty much go anywhere with those. Arctic Cat had the cleated tracks too back then. We had a friend who had a Polaris twin - free air style with the engine jugs sticking up through a hole in the cowling and it had the cleated track. I remember him going up a steep hill in deep fresh powder and not even slowing down. My machine had the flatter rubber track and I would get stuck just about anywhere. I could not climb the hill even if I followed in his track. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
You need a more powerful snowblower. I think mine was made by mistake, an 8hp engine on a 27 cut. Usually mine would have a 5hp. Its got so much oopmph it'll throw water. -Curt From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the household budget for mechanized snow removal! I keep thinking I’m going to trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going. The only bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -Curt Fixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Mine is 6 hp 24 it will throw slush, but works better in snow. I thought this snow might end up being more that last weeks storm of the century It was running from the Mo River to PA. You need a more powerful snowblower. I think mine was made by mistake, an 8hp engine on a 27 cut. Usually mine would have a 5hp. Its got so much oopmph it'll throw water. -Curt From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
I have a system at home that is completely free of fossil fuels and has a rating of 3 shovel-power. It comprises three different types of manual snow shovels, with one horse to operate each one of them independently. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the household budget for mechanized snow removal! I keep thinking I’m going to trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going. The only bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -Curt Fixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
I'd keep it as long as possible, the old ones are way more rugged than the new stuff although the newer stuff has better ergonomics. Even a repower is still cheaper than a new one too. I need to pull mine apart in the spring and figure out why the reverse doesn't work good. Once I get mine figured out I'll do the same job for the neighbor. He says he's going to take his for a $100 service, I told him I'd do the service for that money. Drain his gas out, change the plug, shoot some grease on the pivots and change the oil, easy money... -Curt From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the household budget for mechanized snow removal! I keep thinking I’m going to trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going. The only bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
I'd keep it as long as possible, the old ones are way more rugged than the = new stuff although the newer stuff has better ergonomics. Even a repower is= still cheaper than a new one too. I need to pull mine apart in the spring and figure out why the reverse does= n't work good. Once I get mine figured out I'll do the same job for the nei= ghbor. He says he's going to take his for a $100 service, I told him I'd do= the service for that money. Drain his gas out, change the plug, shoot some= grease on the pivots and change the oil, easy money... -Curt From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the household budget for mechanized snow removal! I keep thinking I’m going to trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going. The only bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
I will keep my snow shovels too. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd keep it as long as possible, the old ones are way more rugged than the = new stuff although the newer stuff has better ergonomics. Even a repower is= still cheaper than a new one too. I need to pull mine apart in the spring and figure out why the reverse does= n't work good. Once I get mine figured out I'll do the same job for the nei= ghbor. He says he's going to take his for a $100 service, I told him I'd do= the service for that money. Drain his gas out, change the plug, shoot some= grease on the pivots and change the oil, easy money... -Curt From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? Anywhere north of the Mason Dixon, there is always justification in the household budget for mechanized snow removal! I keep thinking I’m going to trade in my ’69 Ariens for a new model, but it just keeps going. The only bad part about it is fiddling with the chains. 24” with a Tecumseh engine. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Take your passport just in case. Rain sleet here on top of 4 of fresh wet snow. On Feb 2, 2015 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Angie and I went to the store a little while ago. When I wrote the message below I hadn't been outside or looked at the thermometer. Its 15F and the snow is fluffy powder. We've got around 8 inches and its still coming down good. Volume is good for snowmobiling but it'd be better if it was a better kind of snow. I'm not going to complain though, any snow is better than none... -CurtFixin to make another pirate run, down the street 50', take a right, down that street 200 yards take a left, 50 yards and then a high speed run down a long driveway to a furniture factory, behind the factory is an old railroad bed and access to trails theoretically to Canada... From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? No WET snow. I hate shoveling margaritas! On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did 15 miles Saturday morning, a pirate run through the backwoods without my registration stickers. Then Angie joined me, we put the stickers on and hit the big trails where we rode another 20 miles. The trails were nice and smooth although the soft powder doesn't hold up all that well and its easy to spin the track and dig in. Hopefully this next batch of snow will be a little wetter. I haven't been out yet but we've got probably 6 on the ground now with predictions up to 18. Not as much wind as the last storm but we're almost certainly going to get more snow than we did last time. The riding should be great! -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 4:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready? 'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
'Nother storm sending snow your way. We got a foot of heavy wet stuff so far. A real heart attack snow. Are they predicting much for you? They are not calling this one this week's storm of the century, but it looks like it could be as big or bigger than last week's. MB Content: Went up to the grocery to get chicken broth for SWMBO, who is sick, in the 126. Could not get up the small hill when I left. Backed down and went out the other gate with less incline. Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Original Message From: Curly McLain big snip Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. Is your life? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
Original Message From: Curly McLain big snip Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. Is your life? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Evidently not. I just drive the heap around town. I have good tars on the road vehicles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:51:58 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Curly McLain big snip Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. Is your life? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Evidently not. I just drive the heap around town. I have good tars on the road vehicles. Well, then, is the hassle of getting stuck or running into something worth good tires? Craig We seldom get a foot of wet heavy schnee. 99.9% of the time, the tars that came on the car are ok. The roads will be cleared by morning, and the tars will be ok. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Curt, Got the Schneemobiles ready?
On Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:51:58 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Curly McLain big snip Lousy no name tars on it. But the car is not worth a set of Blizzaks. Is your life? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Evidently not. I just drive the heap around town. I have good tars on the road vehicles. Well, then, is the hassle of getting stuck or running into something worth good tires? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
