Re: [MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations?
Normally, I would agree, but in this instance, the line appears to have one end over the rear wheels at the brake hose and runs to the front of the car, near the master cylinder. To further complicate matters, there are several bends with an inside radius of approximately 1/4 and the various bends might allow the line to be manipulated out if the car were on a lift. Finally, the lines have an external coating and do not look to have any rust; I can clearly see where two lines have rubbed against each other and/or the rest of the car, right in the middle of one of those sharp bends. I'll check the EPC for an idea of how long the lines really are, but I suspect that replacing the whole line is a non-starter, if only due to the overall length, especially where the passenger side is concerned. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 17, 2014, at 23:39, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest you consider buying pre-made length of hard line which already has double flare with the compression nuts. It is available in a good selection of length at NAPA I'm sure of, other FLAPS should have it as well in metric. Remove the line and use a flexible tape measure [see wifes sewing box for example] to get the total length needed, then select the closest available [slightly longer if shorter is next option] Then use the old line as a pattern to make the bends on the new one. If the new line is a bit longer, fudge on the bends a little so the accumulated bends take up the extra length. This way, you have a line with no patches to fail and you only have to make two connections and the retention clips for a good fix.. if the old line has started to fail from rust.. it will fail more later.. logic.. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have a couple of hard brake lines that rotted/chafed (unsure of which; there are two in close proximity) right near where they make a hard 90. They are the ones that go along the driver side of chassis from front to back on a 99 w210. I'm sure the dealer is very proud of them, so my plan is to cut out the bad sections, then fabricate new bends and splice them in. I have no intention of using compression fittings or single flares; both are known to work loose. Thanks in advance -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations?
I would second this approach having used it myself on a couple of occasions. I don't know what what kind of connection you would use or make to repair a brake line, but I can't imagine anything other than a double flare compression fitting having any sort of integrity. I also can't imagine a brake line with patches or repairs in it, either. Remember, this is your braking system. Not something you want to have leaving you in a pinch. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would like to suggest you consider buying pre-made length of hard line which already has double flare with the compression nuts. It is available in a good selection of length at NAPA I'm sure of, other FLAPS should have it as well in metric. Remove the line and use a flexible tape measure [see wifes sewing box for example] to get the total length needed, then select the closest available [slightly longer if shorter is next option] Then use the old line as a pattern to make the bends on the new one. If the new line is a bit longer, fudge on the bends a little so the accumulated bends take up the extra length. This way, you have a line with no patches to fail and you only have to make two connections and the retention clips for a good fix.. if the old line has started to fail from rust.. it will fail more later.. logic.. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have a couple of hard brake lines that rotted/chafed (unsure of which; there are two in close proximity) right near where they make a hard 90. They are the ones that go along the driver side of chassis from front to back on a 99 w210. I'm sure the dealer is very proud of them, so my plan is to cut out the bad sections, then fabricate new bends and splice them in. I have no intention of using compression fittings or single flares; both are known to work loose. Thanks in advance -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations?
Original Message From: John Reames via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: John Reames Subject: [MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations? Have a couple of hard brake lines that rotted/chafed (unsure of which; there are two in close proximity) right near where they make a hard 90. They are the ones that go along the driver side of chassis from front to back ~on a 99 w210. I'm sure the dealer is very proud of them, so my plan is to cut out the bad sections, then fabricate new bends and splice them in. I have no intention of using compression fittings or single flares; both are known to work loose. For splicing metric brake lines, a bubble flare is used, as opposed to a double flare used on domestic autos. It is basically an incomplete double flare. Any quality tool manufacturer will be fine. Lisle, OTC, Craftsman has one too, I believe. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations?
Have a couple of hard brake lines that rotted/chafed (unsure of which; there are two in close proximity) right near where they make a hard 90. They are the ones that go along the driver side of chassis from front to back on a 99 w210. I'm sure the dealer is very proud of them, so my plan is to cut out the bad sections, then fabricate new bends and splice them in. I have no intention of using compression fittings or single flares; both are known to work loose. Thanks in advance -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations?
I would like to suggest you consider buying pre-made length of hard line which already has double flare with the compression nuts. It is available in a good selection of length at NAPA I'm sure of, other FLAPS should have it as well in metric. Remove the line and use a flexible tape measure [see wifes sewing box for example] to get the total length needed, then select the closest available [slightly longer if shorter is next option] Then use the old line as a pattern to make the bends on the new one. If the new line is a bit longer, fudge on the bends a little so the accumulated bends take up the extra length. This way, you have a line with no patches to fail and you only have to make two connections and the retention clips for a good fix.. if the old line has started to fail from rust.. it will fail more later.. logic.. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Have a couple of hard brake lines that rotted/chafed (unsure of which; there are two in close proximity) right near where they make a hard 90. They are the ones that go along the driver side of chassis from front to back on a 99 w210. I'm sure the dealer is very proud of them, so my plan is to cut out the bad sections, then fabricate new bends and splice them in. I have no intention of using compression fittings or single flares; both are known to work loose. Thanks in advance -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
