subject:"\[MBZ\] Finnie Fun\!"

Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Further evidence that those who believe the Flat Earth theory are
correct at the end of the road, you fall off the earth... apparently.
Perhaps a theory modification is in order to include the "Flat Internet
Theory" it does seem that things get lost and can't be found, so that
theory may apply to the interwebs.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 1:24 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:14:11 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > You reached the end of the road and apparently ran off it
>
> But the page should load, should it not?
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On 7/29/19 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:35:25 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Exactly.
> > > Exactly what?
> > >
> > >>> The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
> > >>> the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits
> > >>> there loading forever.
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 16:14:11 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You reached the end of the road and apparently ran off it

But the page should load, should it not?


Craig


> On 7/29/19 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:35:25 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly.
> > Exactly what?
> >
> >>> The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
> >>> the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits
> >>> there loading forever.

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes


You reached the end of the road and apparently ran off it

--FT

On 7/29/19 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:35:25 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:


Exactly.

Exactly what?


Craig



On Jul 29, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:12:50 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)
_and_Roll.html


http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml


The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits
there loading forever.

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:35:25 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Exactly.

Exactly what?


Craig


> > On Jul 29, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:12:50 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> >> 
> >> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)
> >> _and_Roll.html
> >>  >> _and_Roll.html>
> >> 
> >> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> >> 
> > 
> > The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
> > the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits
> > there loading forever.

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


And that, as they say, is that

--FT

On 7/29/19 1:35 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Exactly.


On Jul 29, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:12:50 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)
_and_Roll.html


http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml


The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits there
loading forever.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Exactly.

> On Jul 29, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:12:50 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)
>> _and_Roll.html
>> > _and_Roll.html>
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
>> 
> 
> The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
> the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits there
> loading forever.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:12:50 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)
> _and_Roll.html
>  _and_Roll.html>
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> 

The 14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html page comes up as expected, but
the 28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml does not. My browser just sits there
loading forever.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I got to say, that deep blue is stunning.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 12:32 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Well done !
> Now, enjoy it at leisure.
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 6:22 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > (thumbs up)
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > > <
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > > <
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > > >
> > >
> > > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Ok, you're in our good graces again.  Time for popcorn.

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> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > >
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Well done !
Now, enjoy it at leisure.

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> (thumbs up)
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > >
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-28 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

(thumbs up)

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> Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> <
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> >
>
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> <
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> >
>
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-07-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html 


http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
 


-D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-06-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I replaced the firewall on my modified 280SE 3.5 coupe.  I had to make a
few slits to fit around some grommets, but notwithstanding a couple details
it was a hugely satisfying project.

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 6:43 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Nice. A real important detail.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019, 10:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
> > Got the firewall material all cleaned off and replaced. Looks nice, I
> > think.
> >
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/30_Up_Against_a_(Fire)Wall.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-06-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Nice. A real important detail.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Got the firewall material all cleaned off and replaced. Looks nice, I
> think.
>
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/30_Up_Against_a_(Fire)Wall.html
>
> -D
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-06-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Got the firewall material all cleaned off and replaced. Looks nice, I think.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/30_Up_Against_a_(Fire)Wall.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Hard to say. I’ve made the improvements over such a lengthy period of time it’s 
tough to compare. The one noticeable thing is that the front left isn’t sunk 
down a good 3-4 inches like it had been.

I’m probably going to drive it to work tomorrow since the AC is working now. 
I’ll be able to wind it up good on the reversible lanes in the morning as no 
one will be out and it’s a really, really nice road surface.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2019, at 8:10 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m sure that thing drives like a dream now compared to when I drove out 
> here. 
> Well done. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A new blog entry on my fun with installing the rear swing arm bushings 
>> Sunday. Not a pleasant job, but at least it doesn’t have to be done for 
>> another 50 years, I’m guessing.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/25_Back_in_the_Swing_of_Things.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-25 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

I’m sure that thing drives like a dream now compared to when I drove out here. 
Well done. 

Bob R

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A new blog entry on my fun with installing the rear swing arm bushings 
> Sunday. Not a pleasant job, but at least it doesn’t have to be done for 
> another 50 years, I’m guessing.
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/25_Back_in_the_Swing_of_Things.html
>  
> 
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

A new blog entry on my fun with installing the rear swing arm bushings Sunday. 
Not a pleasant job, but at least it doesn’t have to be done for another 50 
years, I’m guessing.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/25_Back_in_the_Swing_of_Things.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

I sand the rusted area and if I have time I thoroughly de-rust with naval jelly 
which takes multiple applications over a 24 hour period to really clean it up. 
I then paint the por-15 over the repair area making sure to get some on back 
surface of hole edges. While por-15 still wet I impregnate the fiberglass patch 
with por using a cheap chip brush and apply to the repair area. I dab it with 
the brush or gloved fingers to get it flat over the repair area. Once dry, I 
sand and reapply por-15 or another layer of por impregnated fiberglass as 
necessary. It creates a very solid and long lasting repair. Once all done and 
dry I spray the hell out of the back side of the repair with fluid film.

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> On Jun 24, 2019, at 12:41 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Dimitri!
> 
> I may consider that based on what I discover as I start to poke around. Do 
> you POR-15 over the Fiberglas, too?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Might I suggest miracle paint or POR-15 and fiberglass. Very good repair if 
>> welding not an option. I actually prefer this repair over welding for small 
>> areas where rear access to protect weld is not feasible.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is some rust through in the very front of the rockers where they face 
>>> the wheel well. Inside of the rockers is fine, jack points are good. I just 
>>> need to seal up the opening to prevent future corrosion, that’s all.
>>> 
>>> I’ll fog the inside of the rockers with something like bar oil or a rust 
>>> preventative then cover the opening with a patch using seam sealer to seal 
>>> it up good and tight.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I commend you on your tenacity for doing the heavy suspension work!
 So tell me about the “minor” rust repair.
 
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> On Jun 23, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:48:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> So here’s what I have left that I can think of:
>> 
>> Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.
>> 
>> Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness
>> braid/jacket in engine compartment
>> 
>> Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-24 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Thanks, Dimitri!

I may consider that based on what I discover as I start to poke around. Do you 
POR-15 over the Fiberglas, too?

-D

> On Jun 24, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Might I suggest miracle paint or POR-15 and fiberglass. Very good repair if 
> welding not an option. I actually prefer this repair over welding for small 
> areas where rear access to protect weld is not feasible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There is some rust through in the very front of the rockers where they face 
>> the wheel well. Inside of the rockers is fine, jack points are good. I just 
>> need to seal up the opening to prevent future corrosion, that’s all.
>> 
>> I’ll fog the inside of the rockers with something like bar oil or a rust 
>> preventative then cover the opening with a patch using seam sealer to seal 
>> it up good and tight.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I commend you on your tenacity for doing the heavy suspension work!
>>> So tell me about the “minor” rust repair.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 23, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:48:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> So here’s what I have left that I can think of:
> 
> Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.
> 
> Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness
> braid/jacket in engine compartment
> 
> Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.
> 
> And that’s it!
 
 Congratulations!
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Might I suggest miracle paint or POR-15 and fiberglass. Very good repair if 
welding not an option. I actually prefer this repair over welding for small 
areas where rear access to protect weld is not feasible.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is some rust through in the very front of the rockers where they face 
> the wheel well. Inside of the rockers is fine, jack points are good. I just 
> need to seal up the opening to prevent future corrosion, that’s all.
> 
> I’ll fog the inside of the rockers with something like bar oil or a rust 
> preventative then cover the opening with a patch using seam sealer to seal it 
> up good and tight.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I commend you on your tenacity for doing the heavy suspension work!
>> So tell me about the “minor” rust repair.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:48:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 So here’s what I have left that I can think of:
 
 Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.
 
 Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness
 braid/jacket in engine compartment
 
 Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.
 
 And that’s it!
>>> 
>>> Congratulations!
>>> 
>>> You are closing in on the end; it must feel good ...
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-24 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

There is some rust through in the very front of the rockers where they face the 
wheel well. Inside of the rockers is fine, jack points are good. I just need to 
seal up the opening to prevent future corrosion, that’s all.

I’ll fog the inside of the rockers with something like bar oil or a rust 
preventative then cover the opening with a patch using seam sealer to seal it 
up good and tight.

-D

> On Jun 24, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I commend you on your tenacity for doing the heavy suspension work!
> So tell me about the “minor” rust repair.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:48:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> So here’s what I have left that I can think of:
>>> 
>>> Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.
>>> 
>>> Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness
>>> braid/jacket in engine compartment
>>> 
>>> Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.
>>> 
>>> And that’s it!
>> 
>> Congratulations!
>> 
>> You are closing in on the end; it must feel good ...
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

I commend you on your tenacity for doing the heavy suspension work!
So tell me about the “minor” rust repair.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:48:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> So here’s what I have left that I can think of:
>> 
>> Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.
>> 
>> Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness
>> braid/jacket in engine compartment
>> 
>> Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.
>> 
>> And that’s it!
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:48:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So here’s what I have left that I can think of:
> 
> Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.
> 
> Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness
> braid/jacket in engine compartment
> 
> Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.
> 
> And that’s it!

Congratulations!

You are closing in on the end; it must feel good ...


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[MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-06-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yup, I’ve gotten back in the flow on the finnie. I won’t have the blog post up 
tonight probably, but in a nutshell I replaced both rear swing arm bushings and 
frame bushings (sort of like subframe mounts without a subframe - the big donut 
shaped bushing where the front of the swing arm bolts to the body.)

These bushings have a 36mm nut on both sides of the bracket on the axle tube 
that are absolute pigs to get loose, especially after 50+ years. Fortunately I 
had lots and lots of Kroil and a 36mm socket that was ground down so it could 
cover the bolt head and nothing more. Using a large “C” clamp to hold the 
socket and breaker bar in place on one side, a 6’ piece of pipe provided 
adequate leverage to break them loose on the outside. The inside bolt head is 
accessible by an impact wrench, so those were easy.

I blew an hour trying to jig up some sort of press, as the bushings have to be 
compressed in order to place a large washer over the center sleeve and secure 
it with a “C” clip. You put a clip and  washer on one side, put the sleeve 
though the bushings, then compress the bushings and washers so you can get the 
“C” clip in place on the other side.

Got that done and the first (right) side back in place with a new front pushing 
and spring pad.

Left side went pretty well and with the assistance of my youngest running the 
floor jack to get the swing arm lined up and back in position and I was done.

Oh, yeah - I installed the refinished wood trim on the right side door cards, 
too.


So here’s what I have left that I can think of:

Remove, refinish and install wood trim on left side door cards.

Replace firewall material and rodentally masticated wiring harness braid/jacket 
in engine compartment

Minor rust repair at the leading edge of both rocker panels.

And that’s it!

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 11/06/2019 9:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Why do you want a radio in a Mercedes? You should be revelling in the
precision mechanical hum of the engine,  tranny, etc.

Too true. My 300D has had nothing but a hole in the dash where the radio 
used to be for the past 13 years or so. I have a radio (not original 
type) to install but have not bothered as I really don't care enough to 
put it in. My son offered to do it but all it would really do is to fill 
the hole.


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

How archaic.

You could have fun by turning it on, and then giving a voice command ("play
now") after 2 minutes.  Your passengers will be very impressed at the
advanced technology from the '60s..

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> Thanks!
>
> I was really struggling with what to do radio-wise. Finding a working
> Becker or other brand that is period correct is getting to be pretty
> expensive these days. Luckily, I found this one for cheap from a BW forum
> member who had listed it for sale some months ago with no takers. No
> faceplate, which was an issue, so I camped out on eBay and lucked into
> someone selling the correct faceplate for $30. To give you an idea, they
> normally sell from Becker for around $150 or more, and that doesn’t include
> the hardware.
>
> I had a bag of hardware from the original Blaupunkt that was in the car,
> so again, I lucked out in that regard. Only thing I had to pop for was one
> chrome shaft nut from Becker - $25.
>
> The real kicker was when I first set it up and got nothing out of it.
> Darn!! And then I realized it was a tube radio and had to warm up…2-3
> minutes powered up and it was making noise. Whew!
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 11, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > That’s a nice looking radio. I could also care less about high fidelity.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yup, out from under the ML and back to the finnie. Small steps, but
> important ones.
> >>
> >> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Thanks!

I was really struggling with what to do radio-wise. Finding a working Becker or 
other brand that is period correct is getting to be pretty expensive these 
days. Luckily, I found this one for cheap from a BW forum member who had listed 
it for sale some months ago with no takers. No faceplate, which was an issue, 
so I camped out on eBay and lucked into someone selling the correct faceplate 
for $30. To give you an idea, they normally sell from Becker for around $150 or 
more, and that doesn’t include the hardware.

I had a bag of hardware from the original Blaupunkt that was in the car, so 
again, I lucked out in that regard. Only thing I had to pop for was one chrome 
shaft nut from Becker - $25.

The real kicker was when I first set it up and got nothing out of it. Darn!! 
And then I realized it was a tube radio and had to warm up…2-3 minutes powered 
up and it was making noise. Whew!

-D

> On Jun 11, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> That’s a nice looking radio. I could also care less about high fidelity. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, out from under the ML and back to the finnie. Small steps, but 
>> important ones.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-11 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Why do you want a radio in a Mercedes? You should be revelling in the
precision mechanical hum of the engine,  tranny, etc.

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> What radio is in your brown W113, Dimitri?  Your 240D?
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:13 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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>
>> That’s a nice looking radio. I could also care less about high fidelity.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yup, out from under the ML and back to the finnie. Small steps, but
>> important ones.
>> >
>> > http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

What radio is in your brown W113, Dimitri?  Your 240D?

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>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >
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> important ones.
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> > http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-11 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

That’s a nice looking radio. I could also care less about high fidelity. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Nice.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun is Baaaack!

2019-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yup, out from under the ML and back to the finnie. Small steps, but important 
ones.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/6/11_Im_Bck!.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-05-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Nice job.  I remember doing a similar restoration on my W111 coupe front
door panels.  In that case I replaced the leather reusing the old masonite
backing.

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> Got my rear trailing arm hardware kit in only to realize I didn’t get new
> lower spring pads (bushings) when I ordered the kit, so this job got pushed
> to next weekend. With the Mother’s Day stuff going on I wouldn’t have had
> time to mess with it this weekend anyway.
>
> Last week I dinked around with the front passenger door as I want to start
> working on new door card material.
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/10_Its_In_The_Cards.html
>
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-05-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Got my rear trailing arm hardware kit in only to realize I didn’t get new lower 
spring pads (bushings) when I ordered the kit, so this job got pushed to next 
weekend. With the Mother’s Day stuff going on I wouldn’t have had time to mess 
with it this weekend anyway.

Last week I dinked around with the front passenger door as I want to start 
working on new door card material.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/10_Its_In_The_Cards.html

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2019-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

With the money you saved by DIY go out and purchase an hydraulic lift for
your garage.

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> And they’re a reminder of your age, too… I knew I had done it the day
> after. Ugh. Another reason why I’m glad this is about it for major under
> the car heavy duty work…I wish my son would hurry up and buy some property
> like he’s planning to so I can build a proper shop wth a lift.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 6, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > Impressive work. These brute force under the car jobs are not for the
> faint of heart!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 6, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> And it’s a real testament to the design and materials to think that
> it’s been in service for 53 years and nearly everything is intact. I
> haven’t had it up to highway speeds yet, but I’m really interested to see
> how it handles now with all new rubber bits in the rear axle. I’ve got to
> replace the swing arm bushings yet, but that’s pretty much it for all of
> the chassis rubber parts once I’m done.
> >>
> >> From there I’ve got some interior stuff to do, replacing the door
> cards, and then I’m pretty much done as far as restoration work.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 6, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is
> quite impressive.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
> 
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
> 
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2019-05-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

And they’re a reminder of your age, too… I knew I had done it the day after. 
Ugh. Another reason why I’m glad this is about it for major under the car heavy 
duty work…I wish my son would hurry up and buy some property like he’s planning 
to so I can build a proper shop wth a lift.

-D


> On May 6, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Impressive work. These brute force under the car jobs are not for the faint 
> of heart!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And it’s a real testament to the design and materials to think that it’s 
>> been in service for 53 years and nearly everything is intact. I haven’t had 
>> it up to highway speeds yet, but I’m really interested to see how it handles 
>> now with all new rubber bits in the rear axle. I’ve got to replace the swing 
>> arm bushings yet, but that’s pretty much it for all of the chassis rubber 
>> parts once I’m done.
>> 
>> From there I’ve got some interior stuff to do, replacing the door cards, and 
>> then I’m pretty much done as far as restoration work.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is quite 
>>> impressive. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
 
 http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
 
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2019-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Impressive work. These brute force under the car jobs are not for the faint of 
heart!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And it’s a real testament to the design and materials to think that it’s been 
> in service for 53 years and nearly everything is intact. I haven’t had it up 
> to highway speeds yet, but I’m really interested to see how it handles now 
> with all new rubber bits in the rear axle. I’ve got to replace the swing arm 
> bushings yet, but that’s pretty much it for all of the chassis rubber parts 
> once I’m done.
> 
> From there I’ve got some interior stuff to do, replacing the door cards, and 
> then I’m pretty much done as far as restoration work.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is quite 
>> impressive. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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2019-05-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

And it’s a real testament to the design and materials to think that it’s been 
in service for 53 years and nearly everything is intact. I haven’t had it up to 
highway speeds yet, but I’m really interested to see how it handles now with 
all new rubber bits in the rear axle. I’ve got to replace the swing arm 
bushings yet, but that’s pretty much it for all of the chassis rubber parts 
once I’m done.

From there I’ve got some interior stuff to do, replacing the door cards, and 
then I’m pretty much done as far as restoration work.

-D

> On May 6, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is quite 
> impressive. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
>> 
>> -D
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2019-05-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Strong work. The engineering and mechanical design on these cars is quite 
impressive. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 5, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
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2019-05-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

I don’t know that it would have been easier, but I would have spent a lot less 
time on my back under the car. Everything remained pretty much static while I 
was doing the work. I just had to raise or lower the differential a little a 
couple of times during the job to get things aligned.

I had the car off the ground with ramps and jack stands all the way around, so 
it was up in the air maybe 18”. Since I had to get to the drive shaft, front 
flex joint and center bearing, I had the whole thing up as opposed to just 
having the rear up in the air. Made is a lot easier to get to everything as the 
job progressed.

-D

> On May 5, 2019, at 11:35 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Well done !!  Yet again.
> 
> Question: How much easier would the job have been with a car lift?
> 
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 5:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
>> 
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2019-05-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Well done !!  Yet again.

Question: How much easier would the job have been with a car lift?

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> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-05-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Long awaited update - rear axle/suspension work pretty much done!

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/5/4_Rear_Complete!.html

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun, What Else???

2019-03-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Interior trim is brown, as is dash pad and door tops. Car is dark blue, which 
is any painted surface.

-D

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 9:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Appears like the vinyl covers for the B pillar are brown, yet the rest of the 
> interior is blue.  Why brown?
> BTW, the wood looks GREAT.
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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>> Darned near done with the interior. I’m really really pleased with the way 
>> it’s turning out. Can’t wait to get it completely finished so I can get some 
>> good photos outside.
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/26_Light_at_the_End_of_the_Tunnel.html
>> 
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2019-03-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Appears like the vinyl covers for the B pillar are brown, yet the rest of
the interior is blue.  Why brown?
BTW, the wood looks GREAT.

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> Darned near done with the interior. I’m really really pleased with the way
> it’s turning out. Can’t wait to get it completely finished so I can get
> some good photos outside.
>
>
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2019-03-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Darned near done with the interior. I’m really really pleased with the way it’s 
turning out. Can’t wait to get it completely finished so I can get some good 
photos outside.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/26_Light_at_the_End_of_the_Tunnel.html

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2019-03-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

You would win all kinds of prizes!! We would even have to invent new prize
categories. We find out from the park Monday if the Q will be on 9/14
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:35 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could drive it to the ‘Q!
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> >
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2019-03-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Thanks, Dwight! Wish I could drive it to the ‘Q!

-D


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> 
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2019-03-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Nice. Martha,would be proud as,would Gottlieb.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 9:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  Lots of little piddly things today:
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2019-03-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Lots of little piddly things today:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/3/2_Another_Detail_Day.html

-D

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2019-02-24 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Do you take a wire brush to it (hand, drill, or angle grinder) and go at 
the rust to get it down to cleaner metal?  Or just let the chemicals do 
work?


--FT

On 2/24/19 12:20 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

While not strictly necessary, I find that a POR-15 repair lasts longer if the 
rust is completely removed with multiple applications of naval jelly. Over a 
period of 1-2 days, the rust can be completely dissolved giving you a nice rust 
free, pickled surface which is optimal for POR-15 adhesion.

Sent from my iPhone


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Yup, no rest for the wicked. Got the trunk cleaned out in preparation for some 
POR-15 and some more trim work done.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/23_No_Junk_in_this_Trunk_Part_2.html

-D
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2019-02-23 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

While not strictly necessary, I find that a POR-15 repair lasts longer if the 
rust is completely removed with multiple applications of naval jelly. Over a 
period of 1-2 days, the rust can be completely dissolved giving you a nice rust 
free, pickled surface which is optimal for POR-15 adhesion.

Sent from my iPhone

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> some POR-15 and some more trim work done.
> 
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-02-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yup, no rest for the wicked. Got the trunk cleaned out in preparation for some 
POR-15 and some more trim work done.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/23_No_Junk_in_this_Trunk_Part_2.html

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2019-02-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Not sure. I watch US eBay, but there is a lot of stuff on German eBay as well. 
I would really like to find a good taillight and upper bumper on that side, as 
both are pretty well shot as far as the plating. The bumper is in very good 
physical condition, so it’s definitely a candidate for replating, but that’s 
time consuming. I paid $150 for the left one from a German supplier, but he 
didn’t have any right side ones. That’s about what it would cost to have it 
replated.

A lot of goodies for these cars on German eBay. The only problem is finding 
sellers who will ship overseas.

-D

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> Nice Dan. Where do you think you will find upper bumper?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-22 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Nice Dan. Where do you think you will find upper bumper?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Some more work done this week…

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/22_No_Junk_in_this_Trunk.html

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I can check with Tom at the MB CC.  What is your year and model finnie?

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 1:10 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> It is, however, the best plating shop in this part of the world and the
> only one I would trust to do it has a 5-6 month backlog. I paid $150 for
> the one I just installed. That’s about what it would cost me for replating
> the existing part.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 20, 2019, at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ahhh so it happens with older cars. Looks like the next best path is
> a
> > shipment to the chrome shop for a new layer of chrome.  Ouch$$$
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Nope. The plating is nearly gone on the other side, as it is on a number
> >> of other chrome bits on the car. Down to the point where the nickel is
> >> startgin to be exposed. Nothing left to polish.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 10:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If the other side is in as good condition as the one in the picture, it
> >>> will buff out with a buffing wheel on a bench buffer and the proper
> >>> sequence of buffing compound... I have done several that were worse to
> >>> start with and to very good success.
> >>>
> >>> Chrome is usually pretty thick on the older cars and you don't remove
> >> more
> >>> than perhaps .002 to buff down to solid chrome that will shine like
> new.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Got some stuff done today. Fun!
> 
> 
> >>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/19_Overriding_Fun.html
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-20 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

It is, however, the best plating shop in this part of the world and the only 
one I would trust to do it has a 5-6 month backlog. I paid $150 for the one I 
just installed. That’s about what it would cost me for replating the existing 
part.

-D

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> 
> Ahhh so it happens with older cars. Looks like the next best path is a
> shipment to the chrome shop for a new layer of chrome.  Ouch$$$
> 
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Nope. The plating is nearly gone on the other side, as it is on a number
>> of other chrome bits on the car. Down to the point where the nickel is
>> startgin to be exposed. Nothing left to polish.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 10:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the other side is in as good condition as the one in the picture, it
>>> will buff out with a buffing wheel on a bench buffer and the proper
>>> sequence of buffing compound... I have done several that were worse to
>>> start with and to very good success.
>>> 
>>> Chrome is usually pretty thick on the older cars and you don't remove
>> more
>>> than perhaps .002 to buff down to solid chrome that will shine like new.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Got some stuff done today. Fun!
 
 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/19_Overriding_Fun.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Ahhh so it happens with older cars. Looks like the next best path is a
shipment to the chrome shop for a new layer of chrome.  Ouch$$$

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nope. The plating is nearly gone on the other side, as it is on a number
> of other chrome bits on the car. Down to the point where the nickel is
> startgin to be exposed. Nothing left to polish.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 19, 2019, at 10:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > If the other side is in as good condition as the one in the picture, it
> > will buff out with a buffing wheel on a bench buffer and the proper
> > sequence of buffing compound... I have done several that were worse to
> > start with and to very good success.
> >
> > Chrome is usually pretty thick on the older cars and you don't remove
> more
> > than perhaps .002 to buff down to solid chrome that will shine like new.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> Got some stuff done today. Fun!
> >>
> >>
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> >> -D
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2019-02-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Nope. The plating is nearly gone on the other side, as it is on a number of 
other chrome bits on the car. Down to the point where the nickel is startgin to 
be exposed. Nothing left to polish.

-D


> On Feb 19, 2019, at 10:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If the other side is in as good condition as the one in the picture, it
> will buff out with a buffing wheel on a bench buffer and the proper
> sequence of buffing compound... I have done several that were worse to
> start with and to very good success.
> 
> Chrome is usually pretty thick on the older cars and you don't remove more
> than perhaps .002 to buff down to solid chrome that will shine like new.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 6:36 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Got some stuff done today. Fun!
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/19_Overriding_Fun.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

If the other side is in as good condition as the one in the picture, it
will buff out with a buffing wheel on a bench buffer and the proper
sequence of buffing compound... I have done several that were worse to
start with and to very good success.

Chrome is usually pretty thick on the older cars and you don't remove more
than perhaps .002 to buff down to solid chrome that will shine like new.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Got some stuff done today. Fun!
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/19_Overriding_Fun.html
>
> -D
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2019-02-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Got some stuff done today. Fun!

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/19_Overriding_Fun.html

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

2019-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

The wood looks both great and authentic.  Color matches very well to OEM.

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> When I do the wipe-on poly I do the sanding between the final few coats,
> maybe 400 wet sanded with thinner to get the nibs out, then an extremely
> thinned coat for the last.  Maybe 40% varnish the rest thinner. It fills
> the tiny remaining scratches. On that final coat after it dries a day or
> two I rub it with  steel wool and paste wax then buff it with an old
> cotton cloth. Gives a nice finish.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> >
> > Collective update from the last week. A lot accomplished on wood
> refinishing, some other little things here and there….
> >
> > http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/11_Carapalooza!.html
> >
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2019-02-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

When I do the wipe-on poly I do the sanding between the final few coats, maybe 
400 wet sanded with thinner to get the nibs out, then an extremely thinned coat 
for the last.  Maybe 40% varnish the rest thinner. It fills the tiny remaining 
scratches. On that final coat after it dries a day or two I rub it with  
steel wool and paste wax then buff it with an old cotton cloth. Gives a nice 
finish. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

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> Collective update from the last week. A lot accomplished on wood refinishing, 
> some other little things here and there….
> 
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2019-02-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Collective update from the last week. A lot accomplished on wood refinishing, 
some other little things here and there….

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/11_Carapalooza!.html

-D


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2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Exactly!

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 1:59 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> Three most useless things in aviation:
> 1. Fuel still in the pump on the ground.
> 2. Runway behind you.
> 3. Altitude above you.
> BTDT all aviation wrecks start and end on the ground.. plan ahead.
>
>

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2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Three most useless things in aviation:
1. Fuel still in the pump on the ground.
2. Runway behind you.
3. Altitude above you.
BTDT all aviation wrecks start and end on the ground.. plan ahead.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> Yes, and most of your cars are decades newer than my airplane - 1957.
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re
> > sensitized to it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the
> other
> > shoe to drop. I hate that.
> > >
> > > And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine
> > doing it in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A DIY’er. To
> > the best of my knowledge he’s still alive and flying.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> > Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> > the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> > >>
> > >> --R
> > >> Sent from iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> A funny story:
> > >>>
> > >>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's
> > shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
> > related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to
> > work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll
> road
> > with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the
> two
> > over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to
> the
> > house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> > trip.
> > >>>
> > >>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> > taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> > whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> > You hear something and start to freak out
> > >>>
> > >>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> > reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice
> road
> > surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it
> found
> > a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> > tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> > of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> > >>>
> > >>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the
> > car did well again. Not a problem.
> > >>>
> > >>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,
> > which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> > FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> > plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> > intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> > Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece
> of
> > junk I didn't see.
> > >>>
> > >>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put
> > it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
> > Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's
> SL500
> > so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into
> her
> > space a little.
> > >>>
> > >>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> > Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the
> MB
> > warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Yes, and most of your cars are decades newer than my airplane - 1957.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re
> sensitized to it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other
> shoe to drop. I hate that.
> >
> > And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine
> doing it in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A DIY’er. To
> the best of my knowledge he’s still alive and flying.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> >>
> >> --R
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A funny story:
> >>>
> >>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's
> shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
> related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to
> work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road
> with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two
> over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the
> house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> trip.
> >>>
> >>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> You hear something and start to freak out
> >>>
> >>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road
> surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found
> a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> >>>
> >>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the
> car did well again. Not a problem.
> >>>
> >>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,
> which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of
> junk I didn't see.
> >>>
> >>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put
> it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
> Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500
> so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her
> space a little.
> >>>
> >>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB
> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!

--FT

On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re sensitized to 
it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I 
hate that.

And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine doing it in 
an airplane, although a former coworker was an A DIY’er. To the best of my 
knowledge he’s still alive and flying.

-D



On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid. Especially 
after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And the$500E300 too. 
Every old car!

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

A funny story:

Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so he 
could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items early 
next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on surface 
streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited 
access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the 
headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much the 
same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.

We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking it 
out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, riding on 
the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear something and 
start to freak out

Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible with 
three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, new and 
smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet spot in the 
upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and handling quite 
nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front springs. Cool. Got 
to work without an issue. Whew!

Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did 
well again. Not a problem.

Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is 
surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing 
since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold 
air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it 
sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car was 
running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.

Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in 
reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps forward. 
OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she doesn't bang 
the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a little.

Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup. Transmission 
linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB warehouse in 
Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Bingo.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On February 8, 2019 10:17:02 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>But that is the thrill of our game.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re sensitized to 
it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I 
hate that.

And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine doing it 
in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A DIY’er. To the best of my 
knowledge he’s still alive and flying.

-D


> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid. Especially 
> after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And the$500E300 too. 
> Every old car!
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A funny story:
>> 
>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so 
>> he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items 
>> early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on 
>> surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited 
>> access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the 
>> headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much 
>> the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.
>> 
>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking 
>> it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, 
>> riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear 
>> something and start to freak out
>> 
>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible 
>> with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, 
>> new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet 
>> spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and 
>> handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front 
>> springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
>> 
>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did 
>> well again. Not a problem.
>> 
>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is 
>> surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing 
>> since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold 
>> air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it 
>> sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car 
>> was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.
>> 
>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in 
>> reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps 
>> forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she 
>> doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a 
>> little.
>> 
>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup. 
>> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB 
>> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Up the risk by doing it in an airplane ...

On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 10:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just imagine what those pathetic losers driving their new cars must feel.
>
> On Feb 8, 2019 10:17 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > But that is the thrill of our game.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2019 9:47 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> > > Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> > > the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> > >
> > > --R
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A funny story:
> > > >
> > > > Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's
> shop
> > > so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
> related
> > > items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work,
> > half
> > > on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with
> > > limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two
> > over
> > > to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the
> > > house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles
> round
> > > trip.
> > > >
> > > > We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> > > taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> > > whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to
> happen.
> > > You hear something and start to freak out
> > > >
> > > > Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> > > reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice
> > road
> > > surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it
> > found
> > > a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> > > tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious
> need
> > > of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> > > >
> > > > Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the
> car
> > > did well again. Not a problem.
> > > >
> > > > Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,
> which
> > > is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> > > FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> > > plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> > > intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the
> road.
> > > Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some
> piece
> > of
> > > junk I didn't see.
> > > >
> > > > Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put
> it
> > > in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
> Creeps
> > > forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so
> > she
> > > doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her
> > space
> > > a little.
> > > >
> > > > Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> > > Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the
> > MB
> > > warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Just imagine what those pathetic losers driving their new cars must feel.

On Feb 8, 2019 10:17 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> But that is the thrill of our game.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Feb 8, 2019 9:47 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> > Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> > the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > A funny story:
> > >
> > > Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop
> > so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related
> > items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work,
> half
> > on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with
> > limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two
> over
> > to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the
> > house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> > trip.
> > >
> > > We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> > taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> > whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> > You hear something and start to freak out
> > >
> > > Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> > reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice
> road
> > surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it
> found
> > a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> > tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> > of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> > >
> > > Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car
> > did well again. Not a problem.
> > >
> > > Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which
> > is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> > FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> > plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> > intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> > Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece
> of
> > junk I didn't see.
> > >
> > > Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it
> > in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps
> > forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so
> she
> > doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her
> space
> > a little.
> > >
> > > Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> > Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the
> MB
> > warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> > >
> > > Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-08 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

But that is the thrill of our game.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 8, 2019 9:47 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> the$500E300 too. Every old car!
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > A funny story:
> >
> > Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop
> so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related
> items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half
> on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with
> limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over
> to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the
> house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> trip.
> >
> > We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> You hear something and start to freak out
> >
> > Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road
> surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found
> a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> >
> > Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car
> did well again. Not a problem.
> >
> > Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which
> is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of
> junk I didn't see.
> >
> > Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it
> in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps
> forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she
> doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space
> a little.
> >
> > Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB
> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-08 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid. Especially 
after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And the$500E300 too. 
Every old car!

--R
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> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A funny story:
> 
> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so he 
> could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items 
> early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on 
> surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited 
> access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the 
> headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much 
> the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.
> 
> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking 
> it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, 
> riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear 
> something and start to freak out
> 
> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible 
> with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, new 
> and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet spot 
> in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and 
> handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front 
> springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> 
> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did 
> well again. Not a problem.
> 
> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is 
> surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing 
> since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold 
> air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it 
> sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car was 
> running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.
> 
> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in 
> reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps 
> forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she 
> doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a 
> little.
> 
> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup. 
> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB 
> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-08 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Congrats,Dan on inaugural run. Great story.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 8, 2019 9:15 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> A funny story:
>
> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so
> he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items
> early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on
> surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited
> access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the
> headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much
> the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.
>
> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> You hear something and start to freak out
>
> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible
> with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface,
> new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet
> spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and
> handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front
> springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
>
> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car
> did well again. Not a problem.
>
> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is
> surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing
> since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of
> cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and
> it sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem,
> car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't
> see.
>
> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in
> reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps
> forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she
> doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space
> a little.
>
> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB
> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
>
> Dan
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

A funny story:

Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so he 
could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items early 
next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on surface 
streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited 
access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the 
headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much the 
same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.

We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking it 
out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, riding on 
the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear something and 
start to freak out

Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible with 
three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, new and 
smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet spot in the 
upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and handling quite 
nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front springs. Cool. Got 
to work without an issue. Whew!

Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did 
well again. Not a problem.

Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is 
surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing 
since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold 
air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it 
sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car was 
running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.

Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in 
reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps forward. 
OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she doesn't bang 
the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a little.

Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup. Transmission 
linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB warehouse in 
Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.

Dan
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun For Today!

2019-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Tore out the dash, not pleasant.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/3_Gotta_Dash.html

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Wow. How about that!

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> On Feb 3, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Never looked until now. Looks like he does W123 dash pads, don’t see anything 
> for W113 but look around and drop him a note.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/str/w114selo/MERCEDES-w123/_i.html?_storecat=2012995012
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
>> 
>> Does he do dash pads for other models? W123? W113?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup. There’s a guy in Turkey who has been making reproduction dash pads for 
>>> a number of years now. Only place you can get one. $800 versus over $1600 
>>> and 6-8 months to get yours redone by the dash guys in CA. Because of the 
>>> packing and bulk it costs over $200 to ship one, but it’s still a good 
>>> deal. I’ve talked to a number of people who have gotten them and they’ve 
>>> all been really happy with the product. Black only, but it can be painted. 
>>> I’ll be painting mine dark brown to match the original.
>>> 
>>> He also does some other reproduction stuff, like grille trim, door seals, 
>>> firewall padding, etc., too.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Feb 3, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Dash supplier in Turkey?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yup. Just chipping away.
> 
> I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
> ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which 
> should arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash 
> yesterday and hope to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out 
> of the dash so I can start refinishing it.
> 
> I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so 
> he can get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I 
> have a new MB headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going 
> to replace the windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both 
> windshield and rear glass will come out for this, so I’ve got to get 
> seals ordered soon, too.
> 
> The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to 
> get the car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do 
> his stuff while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to 
> have everything done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad 
> painted so it will begin to come together after that point.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> yer makin progress!
>> 
>> -FT
>> 
>>> On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Blog post for yesterday’s work:
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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2019-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Never looked until now. Looks like he does W123 dash pads, don’t see anything 
for W113 but look around and drop him a note.

https://www.ebay.com/str/w114selo/MERCEDES-w123/_i.html?_storecat=2012995012

-D

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Does he do dash pads for other models? W123? W113?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup. There’s a guy in Turkey who has been making reproduction dash pads for 
>> a number of years now. Only place you can get one. $800 versus over $1600 
>> and 6-8 months to get yours redone by the dash guys in CA. Because of the 
>> packing and bulk it costs over $200 to ship one, but it’s still a good deal. 
>> I’ve talked to a number of people who have gotten them and they’ve all been 
>> really happy with the product. Black only, but it can be painted. I’ll be 
>> painting mine dark brown to match the original.
>> 
>> He also does some other reproduction stuff, like grille trim, door seals, 
>> firewall padding, etc., too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dash supplier in Turkey?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 Yup. Just chipping away.

 I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
 ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which 
 should arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash 
 yesterday and hope to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out 
 of the dash so I can start refinishing it.

 I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he 
 can get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a 
 new MB headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to 
 replace the windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield 
 and rear glass will come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered 
 soon, too.

 The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get 
 the car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his 
 stuff while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have 
 everything done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad 
 painted so it will begin to come together after that point.

 -D

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yer makin progress!
> 
> -FT
> 
>> On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Blog post for yesterday’s work:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Does he do dash pads for other models? W123? W113?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup. There’s a guy in Turkey who has been making reproduction dash pads for a 
> number of years now. Only place you can get one. $800 versus over $1600 and 
> 6-8 months to get yours redone by the dash guys in CA. Because of the packing 
> and bulk it costs over $200 to ship one, but it’s still a good deal. I’ve 
> talked to a number of people who have gotten them and they’ve all been really 
> happy with the product. Black only, but it can be painted. I’ll be painting 
> mine dark brown to match the original.
> 
> He also does some other reproduction stuff, like grille trim, door seals, 
> firewall padding, etc., too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dash supplier in Turkey?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup. Just chipping away.
>>> 
>>> I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
>>> ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which 
>>> should arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash 
>>> yesterday and hope to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of 
>>> the dash so I can start refinishing it.
>>> 
>>> I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he 
>>> can get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a 
>>> new MB headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to 
>>> replace the windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and 
>>> rear glass will come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, 
>>> too.
>>> 
>>> The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get 
>>> the car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his 
>>> stuff while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have 
>>> everything done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad 
>>> painted so it will begin to come together after that point.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 yer makin progress!
 
 -FT
 
> On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Blog post for yesterday’s work:
> 
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yup. There’s a guy in Turkey who has been making reproduction dash pads for a 
number of years now. Only place you can get one. $800 versus over $1600 and 6-8 
months to get yours redone by the dash guys in CA. Because of the packing and 
bulk it costs over $200 to ship one, but it’s still a good deal. I’ve talked to 
a number of people who have gotten them and they’ve all been really happy with 
the product. Black only, but it can be painted. I’ll be painting mine dark 
brown to match the original.

He also does some other reproduction stuff, like grille trim, door seals, 
firewall padding, etc., too.

-D

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dash supplier in Turkey?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup. Just chipping away.
>> 
>> I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
>> ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which 
>> should arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash 
>> yesterday and hope to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of 
>> the dash so I can start refinishing it.
>> 
>> I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he 
>> can get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a 
>> new MB headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to replace 
>> the windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and rear 
>> glass will come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, too.
>> 
>> The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get 
>> the car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his 
>> stuff while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have 
>> everything done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad painted 
>> so it will begin to come together after that point.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yer makin progress!
>>> 
>>> -FT
>>> 
 On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Blog post for yesterday’s work:
 
 http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Saw your writeup and the other guy's photos of the process, looks easy 
enough.  The headliner on there now is gray, I'm thinking black to 
replace it, maybe even buy a whole black leather skin to do it!


--FT

On 2/3/19 12:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I did a writeup for headliner replacement in the BW R129 forum, I believe. I’ll 
see if I can find it and post the link to you via PM. It’s actually pretty easy 
to do and not terribly expensive, either.

This is wife’s “other” hip - she had her left hip replaced in 2014, I think. It 
was just a matter of time before this one failed. I don’t mind all the stuff 
dealing with this. Since I can do a lot of work from home it works out pretty 
well, as I still take FMLA leave but I do it “intermittently”. That way I can 
work at least part of the time and not have to worry about exhausting my 
accrued time. Fortunately, my employer is pretty cool about it.

Thanks for the wishes. She’s an old hand at this stuff. I would be freaking 
out. I haven’t been in a hospital since the 1960s. I’m hoping to keep it that 
way for a long time.

-D



On Feb 3, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Sorry to hear about your wife -- not fun times ahead.  I self-graduated last 
weekend to a cane (was hexapod now a tripod) and will see doc on Tuesday, see 
what my status is.  Best wishes for her (and you).

The headliner on the SL is also drooping and falling down, I guess when I can 
get the hardtop off it will be time to reglue it or whatever one does, won't 
have to send it to a specialty shop. Your expertise will be helpful in that 
regard, something I can do I expect.  It's supposed to be some high-end 
material on the SL600 I think, it feels kinda dense and rubbery, maybe it is 
actually fabric of some kind.  I also noticed that EVERYTHING in the cabin is 
covered with leather, no vinyl, it is pretty cool.

--FT

On 2/3/19 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yup. Just chipping away.

I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which should 
arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash yesterday and hope 
to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of the dash so I can 
start refinishing it.

I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he can 
get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a new MB 
headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to replace the 
windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and rear glass will 
come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, too.

The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get the 
car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his stuff 
while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have everything 
done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad painted so it will 
begin to come together after that point.

-D



On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

yer makin progress!

-FT

On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Blog post for yesterday’s work:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Dash supplier in Turkey?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup. Just chipping away.
> 
> I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
> ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which 
> should arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash yesterday 
> and hope to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of the dash so 
> I can start refinishing it.
> 
> I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he 
> can get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a 
> new MB headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to replace 
> the windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and rear 
> glass will come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, too.
> 
> The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get 
> the car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his 
> stuff while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have 
> everything done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad painted 
> so it will begin to come together after that point.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> yer makin progress!
>> 
>> -FT
>> 
>>> On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Blog post for yesterday’s work:
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

I did a writeup for headliner replacement in the BW R129 forum, I believe. I’ll 
see if I can find it and post the link to you via PM. It’s actually pretty easy 
to do and not terribly expensive, either.

This is wife’s “other” hip - she had her left hip replaced in 2014, I think. It 
was just a matter of time before this one failed. I don’t mind all the stuff 
dealing with this. Since I can do a lot of work from home it works out pretty 
well, as I still take FMLA leave but I do it “intermittently”. That way I can 
work at least part of the time and not have to worry about exhausting my 
accrued time. Fortunately, my employer is pretty cool about it.

Thanks for the wishes. She’s an old hand at this stuff. I would be freaking 
out. I haven’t been in a hospital since the 1960s. I’m hoping to keep it that 
way for a long time.

-D


> On Feb 3, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to hear about your wife -- not fun times ahead.  I self-graduated last 
> weekend to a cane (was hexapod now a tripod) and will see doc on Tuesday, see 
> what my status is.  Best wishes for her (and you).
> 
> The headliner on the SL is also drooping and falling down, I guess when I can 
> get the hardtop off it will be time to reglue it or whatever one does, won't 
> have to send it to a specialty shop. Your expertise will be helpful in that 
> regard, something I can do I expect.  It's supposed to be some high-end 
> material on the SL600 I think, it feels kinda dense and rubbery, maybe it is 
> actually fabric of some kind.  I also noticed that EVERYTHING in the cabin is 
> covered with leather, no vinyl, it is pretty cool.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 2/3/19 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yup. Just chipping away.
>> 
>> I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
>> ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which 
>> should arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash 
>> yesterday and hope to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of 
>> the dash so I can start refinishing it.
>> 
>> I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he 
>> can get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a 
>> new MB headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to replace 
>> the windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and rear 
>> glass will come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, too.
>> 
>> The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get 
>> the car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his 
>> stuff while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have 
>> everything done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad painted 
>> so it will begin to come together after that point.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yer makin progress!
>>> 
>>> -FT
>>> 
>>> On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Blog post for yesterday’s work:
 
 http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sorry to hear about your wife -- not fun times ahead.  I self-graduated 
last weekend to a cane (was hexapod now a tripod) and will see doc on 
Tuesday, see what my status is.  Best wishes for her (and you).


The headliner on the SL is also drooping and falling down, I guess when 
I can get the hardtop off it will be time to reglue it or whatever one 
does, won't have to send it to a specialty shop. Your expertise will be 
helpful in that regard, something I can do I expect.  It's supposed to 
be some high-end material on the SL600 I think, it feels kinda dense and 
rubbery, maybe it is actually fabric of some kind.  I also noticed that 
EVERYTHING in the cabin is covered with leather, no vinyl, it is pretty 
cool.


--FT

On 2/3/19 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yup. Just chipping away.

I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which should 
arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash yesterday and hope 
to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of the dash so I can 
start refinishing it.

I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he can 
get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a new MB 
headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to replace the 
windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and rear glass will 
come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, too.

The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get the 
car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his stuff 
while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have everything 
done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad painted so it will 
begin to come together after that point.

-D



On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

yer makin progress!

-FT

On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Blog post for yesterday’s work:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yup. Just chipping away.

I’m juggling the logistics of the headliner replacement right now. I just 
ordered my new reproduction dash pad from the supplier in Turkey, which should 
arrive in a couple of weeks. I started tearing into the dash yesterday and hope 
to finish that up today. That way I have the wood out of the dash so I can 
start refinishing it.

I need to drive it over to the headliner guy in the next week or two so he can 
get an idea of what he’s going to do and can order materials. I have a new MB 
headliner, but he’ll need some padding and he’s also going to replace the 
windlace while the car is in the shop, too. Both windshield and rear glass will 
come out for this, so I’ve got to get seals ordered soon, too.

The wife is going in for hip surgery on the 6th of March, so I want to get the 
car to him before then so he can have it for a week or two to do his stuff 
while I’m busy doing home health care. Once he’s done I hope to have everything 
done on my end as far as refinished wood and the dash pad painted so it will 
begin to come together after that point.

-D

> On Feb 3, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yer makin progress!
> 
> -FT
> 
> On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Blog post for yesterday’s work:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


yer makin progress!

-FT

On 2/3/19 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Blog post for yesterday’s work:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html

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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Blog post for yesterday’s work:

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/2_Trunk_Show.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

It was kept in a covered boathouse in the summer and in a building in 
the winter.  But it spent a lot of hours on the River.


OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 2/1/19 11:01 PM:

Thanks- that's good to know. I'll look for Varithane Marine this spring.





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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Thanks- that's good to know. I'll look for Varithane Marine this spring.

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> We stripped and varnished the 1958 Owens cruiser in 1962 or 3.  It was
> re-varnished with Varithane marine.  about 10 years later it was sanded
> and recoated.  never peeled. It was mahogany and mahogany plywood.
>
> My homemade sailboat, however, peeled.  It was Varithane, but not marine.
>
> the paint factory store sold a couple of brands of marine paint (not
> their product) and they said to use Varithane marine.
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 2/1/19 7:23 PM:
> > I finished an outdoors table I made in Minwax spar varnish thinking that
> > was the correct finish for something exposed to UV all day, every day,
> just
> > like a boat. In three years it looks like one of the worst cases of clear
> > coat peel you've ever seen.
> > My brother-in-law is a merchant marine captain and long time sailor, so I
> > asked him what went wrong. He said - nothing, you have to sand and
> re-coat
> > the wood every year!
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

We stripped and varnished the 1958 Owens cruiser in 1962 or 3.  It was 
re-varnished with Varithane marine.  about 10 years later it was sanded 
and recoated.  never peeled. It was mahogany and mahogany plywood.


My homemade sailboat, however, peeled.  It was Varithane, but not marine.

the paint factory store sold a couple of brands of marine paint (not 
their product) and they said to use Varithane marine.


OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 2/1/19 7:23 PM:

I finished an outdoors table I made in Minwax spar varnish thinking that
was the correct finish for something exposed to UV all day, every day, just
like a boat. In three years it looks like one of the worst cases of clear
coat peel you've ever seen.
My brother-in-law is a merchant marine captain and long time sailor, so I
asked him what went wrong. He said - nothing, you have to sand and re-coat
the wood every year!





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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

I finished an outdoors table I made in Minwax spar varnish thinking that
was the correct finish for something exposed to UV all day, every day, just
like a boat. In three years it looks like one of the worst cases of clear
coat peel you've ever seen.
My brother-in-law is a merchant marine captain and long time sailor, so I
asked him what went wrong. He said - nothing, you have to sand and re-coat
the wood every year!

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:18 PM Dimitri via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Jaime refinished the wood in his w108 250S that he recently sold on BAT.
> The finish was pretty much spot on to what original would have looked like.
> I believe he used a catalyzed urethane based clear coat in a satin finish-
> or used some kind of gloss reducer additive? Might have greater durability
> than a spar varnish but I’m far from experienced in such matters.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 1, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if the catalyzed finish like Bona floor stuff would work.
> Water-based, thin, you mix in a second part, wipe it on, it self levels,
> then in a coupla hours it is fairly hard.  Not sure if it comes in a gloss
> or if it would just run off some curvy wood pieces.  Kinda pricey for a
> gallon to just use like 3 ounces on some wood pieces.  There is some stuff
> used for bar tops that is glossy and catalyzed but again not sure how thick
> or sticky it is.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 2/1/19 5:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> >> That sounds right to me-I have never analyzed it closely but the finish
> is
> >> thick-you can see where it comes off.
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Drew (Heritage Woodworks) explained the the clear finish that Mercedes
> >>> used on later car to me once. It’s some sort of catalyzed acrylic or
> >>> lacquer, if I recall correctly. Wicked tough stuff, the process he
> used to
> >>> remove it was not only nasty but quite labor intensive. No doubt the
> reason
> >>> why they could get away with using paper thin veneer on those parts.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Feb 1, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> 
>  Dan,
>  I really can't argue with that or your experience.  I liked the oils
> for
> >>> wide grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light.
>  Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind
> >>> of acrylic?
>  Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
> 
> 
>  On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>  Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back
> pocket, I
> >>> can assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for
> these
> >>> sorts of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink
> and
> >>> swell with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the
> UV
> >>> blocking characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive
> >>> amount of direct sunlight these parts receive.
>  Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it
> >>> eventually breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular
> (re)
> >>> application to maintain the finish.
>  -D
> 
> 
> > On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The
> spray
> >>> stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would
> penetrate and
> >>> last in the heat there.
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >> Finally got something done despite the cold…
> >>
> >>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Jaime refinished the wood in his w108 250S that he recently sold on BAT. The 
finish was pretty much spot on to what original would have looked like. I 
believe he used a catalyzed urethane based clear coat in a satin finish- or 
used some kind of gloss reducer additive? Might have greater durability than a 
spar varnish but I’m far from experienced in such matters. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if the catalyzed finish like Bona floor stuff would work.  
> Water-based, thin, you mix in a second part, wipe it on, it self levels, then 
> in a coupla hours it is fairly hard.  Not sure if it comes in a gloss or if 
> it would just run off some curvy wood pieces.  Kinda pricey for a gallon to 
> just use like 3 ounces on some wood pieces.  There is some stuff used for bar 
> tops that is glossy and catalyzed but again not sure how thick or sticky it 
> is.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 2/1/19 5:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> That sounds right to me-I have never analyzed it closely but the finish is
>> thick-you can see where it comes off.
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Drew (Heritage Woodworks) explained the the clear finish that Mercedes
>>> used on later car to me once. It’s some sort of catalyzed acrylic or
>>> lacquer, if I recall correctly. Wicked tough stuff, the process he used to
>>> remove it was not only nasty but quite labor intensive. No doubt the reason
>>> why they could get away with using paper thin veneer on those parts.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 1, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
 
 Dan,
 I really can't argue with that or your experience.  I liked the oils for
>>> wide grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light.
 Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind
>>> of acrylic?
 Dwight E. Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I
>>> can assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these
>>> sorts of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and
>>> swell with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV
>>> blocking characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive
>>> amount of direct sunlight these parts receive.
 Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it
>>> eventually breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re)
>>> application to maintain the finish.
 -D
 
 
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray
>>> stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and
>>> last in the heat there.
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>> Finally got something done despite the cold…
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I wonder if the catalyzed finish like Bona floor stuff would work.  
Water-based, thin, you mix in a second part, wipe it on, it self levels, 
then in a coupla hours it is fairly hard.  Not sure if it comes in a 
gloss or if it would just run off some curvy wood pieces.  Kinda pricey 
for a gallon to just use like 3 ounces on some wood pieces.  There is 
some stuff used for bar tops that is glossy and catalyzed but again not 
sure how thick or sticky it is.


--FT

On 2/1/19 5:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

That sounds right to me-I have never analyzed it closely but the finish is
thick-you can see where it comes off.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Drew (Heritage Woodworks) explained the the clear finish that Mercedes
used on later car to me once. It’s some sort of catalyzed acrylic or
lacquer, if I recall correctly. Wicked tough stuff, the process he used to
remove it was not only nasty but quite labor intensive. No doubt the reason
why they could get away with using paper thin veneer on those parts.

-D



On Feb 1, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

Dan,
I really can't argue with that or your experience.  I liked the oils for

wide grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light.

Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind

of acrylic?

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I

can assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these
sorts of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and
swell with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV
blocking characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive
amount of direct sunlight these parts receive.

Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it

eventually breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re)
application to maintain the finish.

-D



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mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray

stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and
last in the heat there.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


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mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Finally got something done despite the cold…



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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

That sounds right to me-I have never analyzed it closely but the finish is
thick-you can see where it comes off.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Drew (Heritage Woodworks) explained the the clear finish that Mercedes
> used on later car to me once. It’s some sort of catalyzed acrylic or
> lacquer, if I recall correctly. Wicked tough stuff, the process he used to
> remove it was not only nasty but quite labor intensive. No doubt the reason
> why they could get away with using paper thin veneer on those parts.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > Dan,
> > I really can't argue with that or your experience.  I liked the oils for
> wide grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light.
> > Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind
> of acrylic?
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I
> can assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these
> sorts of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and
> swell with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV
> blocking characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive
> amount of direct sunlight these parts receive.
> >
> > Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it
> eventually breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re)
> application to maintain the finish.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray
> stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and
> last in the heat there.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Finally got something done despite the cold…
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Drew (Heritage Woodworks) explained the the clear finish that Mercedes used on 
later car to me once. It’s some sort of catalyzed acrylic or lacquer, if I 
recall correctly. Wicked tough stuff, the process he used to remove it was not 
only nasty but quite labor intensive. No doubt the reason why they could get 
away with using paper thin veneer on those parts.

-D


> On Feb 1, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> I really can't argue with that or your experience.  I liked the oils for wide 
> grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light.
> Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind of 
> acrylic? 
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 5:18 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I can 
> assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these sorts 
> of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and swell 
> with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV blocking 
> characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive amount of 
> direct sunlight these parts receive.
> 
> Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it eventually 
> breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re) application to 
> maintain the finish.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray 
> > stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and 
> > last in the heat there. 
> > 
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Finally got something done despite the cold…
> >> 
> >> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/1/31_Not...Finished.html 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Dan,
I really can't argue with that or your experience.  I liked the oils for
wide grain woods like oak which were not exposed to outdoor light.
Looks like the wood in my 123 has a heavy coating-maybe even some kind of
acrylic?
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I
> can assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these
> sorts of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and
> swell with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV
> blocking characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive
> amount of direct sunlight these parts receive.
>
> Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it
> eventually breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re)
> application to maintain the finish.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray
> stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and
> last in the heat there.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Finally got something done despite the cold…
> >>
> >>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/1/31_Not...Finished.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

After I read this again, I have a correction….

Danish oil does protect wood and work well in severe environments - BUT - it’s 
not good at UV protection. It’s a big one for use on teak in marine 
applications, but the thing there is that teak is a super dense wood that has a 
lot of characteristics that make it do well in that sort of environment - the 
Danish oil just enhances those characteristics to some extent. It also requires 
regular maintenance as well to keep the finish.

So that’s to say that you could use Danish oil as a finish, but you’re going to 
have to maintain it. I guess if you wanted the “look” you get from Danish oil 
you could top coat it with spar varnish and let it do the protecting.

Wood finishes are many and varied. There are a lot of people who have found 
what works for them and they stick to it. If you’ve got a Sam Maloof rocking 
chair you’re probably going to use Danish oil on it, not some spray bomb stuff.

-D


> On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> All that makes sense
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 2/1/19 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I can 
>> assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these sorts 
>> of parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and swell 
>> with changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV blocking 
>> characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive amount of 
>> direct sunlight these parts receive.
>> 
>> Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it eventually 
>> breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re) application 
>> to maintain the finish.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>  
>>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray 
>>> stuff should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and 
>>> last in the heat there.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Finally got something done despite the cold…
 
 http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/1/31_Not...Finished.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


All that makes sense

--FT

On 2/1/19 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Having over 20 years of hardwood furniture building in my back pocket, I can 
assure you that MinWax Spray Spar Varnish is an ideal finish for these sorts of 
parts. It seals and stabilizes the wood so it doesn’t shrink and swell with 
changes in temperature and humidity. More importantly, the UV blocking 
characteristics keep the finish from fading due to the massive amount of direct 
sunlight these parts receive.

Oil will seal the wood but won’t protect it. And being an oil, it eventually 
breaks down from exposure to the sun and requires regular (re) application to 
maintain the finish.

-D

  

On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Try some watco danish oil?  That makes a really nice finish. The spray stuff 
should be good too but I wonder about how well it would penetrate and last in 
the heat there.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


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-D


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