Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

of that list, I'd go for the cooper or falken.  Falken is Sumitomo, 
probably made in Tonawanda, NY.   I don't know what Milestar is.

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/fitmentresult/tires/size/215-55-16?q=%3Aprice-asc%3Abrands%3Abrand-BAR%3Abrands%3Abrand-FAL%3Abrands%3Abrand-COP==16=215=55=on#
Barum is owned by Conti, made is czech republic.

https://www.onlinetires.com has the milestar for under $50 each, but 
don't stock barum, cooper, nokian and others.  mostly asian/chinee tars 
and US majors.


https://simpletire.com searches local dealers across the country.  I got 
a good deal  on the nokia tars on this site.






Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:11:10 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
  wrote:


215/55R16


https://www.tires-easy.com/tires/215-55-16 shows 112 tires, varying from

Milestar MS932 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
4.68/5 (40 reviews)
24556017 Milestar MS932 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
free shipping
UTQG: 540AA
Mileage Warranty: 50K miles
Pricing  $ 216.64  for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery   1 - 2 days

to

Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring 215/55R16 93H BSW
4.83/5 (18 reviews)
UTQG: 620AA
Mileage Warranty: 70K miles
Pricing  $ 317.60  for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days

to

Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S 215/55R16XL 97V BSW
4.87/5 (30 reviews)
UTQG: 600AA
Mileage Warranty: 65K miles
Pricing  $ 332.64   for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery 1 - 2 days

to

Nokian eNTYRE 2.0 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
5/5 (3 reviews)
UTQG: 700AA
Mileage Warranty: 75K miles
Pricing  $ 364.36   for four tires
Shipping  FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days

to

Michelin Primacy MXM4 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
4.85/5 (13 reviews)
UTQG: 500AAA
Mileage Warranty: 55K miles
Pricing  $ 539.44   for four tires
Shipping  FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days

to


Michelin Primacy HP 215/55R16 93W BSW
UTQG: 240AA
Mileage Warranty: 35K miles
Pricing  $ 845.72for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:11:10 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 215/55R16

https://www.tires-easy.com/tires/215-55-16 shows 112 tires, varying from 

Milestar MS932 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
4.68/5 (40 reviews)
24556017 Milestar MS932 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
free shipping
UTQG: 540AA
Mileage Warranty: 50K miles
Pricing  $ 216.64  for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery   1 - 2 days

to

Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring 215/55R16 93H BSW
4.83/5 (18 reviews)
UTQG: 620AA
Mileage Warranty: 70K miles
Pricing  $ 317.60  for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days

to

Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S 215/55R16XL 97V BSW
4.87/5 (30 reviews)
UTQG: 600AA
Mileage Warranty: 65K miles
Pricing  $ 332.64   for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery 1 - 2 days

to

Nokian eNTYRE 2.0 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
5/5 (3 reviews)
UTQG: 700AA
Mileage Warranty: 75K miles
Pricing  $ 364.36   for four tires
Shipping  FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days

to

Michelin Primacy MXM4 215/55R16XL 97H BSW
4.85/5 (13 reviews)
UTQG: 500AAA
Mileage Warranty: 55K miles
Pricing  $ 539.44   for four tires
Shipping  FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days

to


Michelin Primacy HP 215/55R16 93W BSW
UTQG: 240AA
Mileage Warranty: 35K miles
Pricing  $ 845.72for four tires
Shipping FREE
Estimated Delivery  1 - 2 days


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I swear by my Go Forms.  They're H Rated, all weather, handle AMAZINGLY,
and cost me maybe $45.  Got 'em from Tires-Easy.com   Hurry before Trump
slaps a tariff on 'em.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 215/55R16
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 4/10/18 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:59:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
>>> Nokian?  Something else?
>>>
>> What size tires does it use?
>>
>>
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

215/55R16

--FT


On 4/10/18 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:59:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
Nokian?  Something else?

What size tires does it use?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody
> have a recommendation?


The Michelins I put on the 560SL many years ago really impressed me in the
rain.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Do you use the .50 on them thangs?

--FT
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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks... meant to type "Sipes" .. somehow it came out "snipes" ... I stand
> corrected...
> 
> I don't actually hunt snipes.. I only organize the hunts for visiting city
> boys ;
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sipes  You hunt snipes.  tars have sipes.  Microsipes are good.
>> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Look for tires with extra sipes in the tread. The little slots that open
>>> up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Autocorrect?

G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks... meant to type "Sipes" .. somehow it came out "snipes" ... I stand
corrected...

I don't actually hunt snipes.. I only organize the hunts for visiting city
boys ;





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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks... meant to type "Sipes" .. somehow it came out "snipes" ... I stand
corrected...

I don't actually hunt snipes.. I only organize the hunts for visiting city
boys ;

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sipes  You hunt snipes.  tars have sipes.  Microsipes are good.
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Look for tires with extra sipes in the tread. The little slots that open
>> up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Sipes  You hunt snipes.  tars have sipes.  Microsipes are good.

G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Look for tires with extra sipes in the tread. The little slots that open
up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.





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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

These days, I look for something rated AA 400 or better.   AB 300 is 
probably the lowest grade acceptable for a Dissel.


I think AA is roughly equivalent to an H rated yuro tar.   And AB is 
roughly equivalent to an S rated yuro tar.


I have thus far avoided kumho and han kook tars because of quality 
concerns. (and who wants a tar made by any kook?)   Tars made in yurp 
are the best.  After that, I tend to go for Made in USA, although the 
record for Made in USA radial tars is not good.  badly out of balance, 
prone to slip belts, poor wet or schnee/eis traction, etc.The only 
slipped belts I've ever had in yurpeen tars is frog michelins in the 
early 70s.  I ran yurpeen tars on MB, Frod van, Plymouth Valiant, 
datsoon? Peekup, etc, with no problems.


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Look at the reviews on tirerack. Those kumhos seem kinda soft as some report 
they wear out fast. They also had a super performance type for a bit more that 
was probably softer. I don’t know about wet conditions though. Sometimes that 
depends on the tread design not how soft.

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I had the kuhmo on the w124.  Not really impressed with them.

Nokians were less than gripping on the w220.  Maybe they are better near 
absolute zero.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Look at the reviews on tirerack. Those kumhos seem kinda soft as some report 
> they wear out fast. They also had a super performance type for a bit more 
> that was probably softer. I don’t know about wet conditions though. Sometimes 
> that depends on the tread design not how soft. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:28 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody 
>> have a recommendation?  
>> 
>> They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or 
>> overly cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use for 
>> DD.  Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
>>> prices were decent last year.
>>> -- 
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>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Look for tires with extra snipes in the tread. The little slots that open
up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:28 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody
> have a recommendation?
>
> They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or
> overly cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use
> for DD.  Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and
> online prices were decent last year.
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> > Charleston SC
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> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Look at the reviews on tirerack. Those kumhos seem kinda soft as some report 
they wear out fast. They also had a super performance type for a bit more that 
was probably softer. I don’t know about wet conditions though. Sometimes that 
depends on the tread design not how soft. 

--R
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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:28 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody 
> have a recommendation?  
> 
> They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or 
> overly cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use for 
> DD.  Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
>> prices were decent last year.
>> -- 
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>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody have 
a recommendation?  

They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or overly 
cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use for DD.  
Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
> prices were decent last year.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The last tars I bought are Barum (yurpeen Continental sub-brand) or 
nokia n.  so far so good, but too soon to tell.  Cooper cs 3 or 5 may 
suit your use, but may not get beyond 50 k miles.


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get some 
new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a 
Benz decade.

What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
Something else?

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

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On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:59:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
> Nokian?  Something else?

What size tires does it use?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Wonder what their fording depth is

--FT


On 4/10/18 6:23 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Those look decent, good wet grip which is key for hurricane season.


--
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Those look decent, good wet grip which is key for hurricane season.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 10, 2018 6:15:55 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I make you good price sailor!
>
>I see these Kumhos on Tirerack, with $75 rebate they come to $62/tire 
>which is pretty good.  Someone said these are OK tires? I could go with
>
>that.  They have some local installers they will ship them to, their 
>warehouse is just down Savannah so it wouldn't take but a coupla days
>to 
>get here.
>
>https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho=Ecsta+PA31=155VR6PA31XL=true=yes=Mercedes-Benz=1999=E300%20Diesel=
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 4/10/18 6:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It
>runs well still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to
>start but did light off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well.
>I think I’m  gonna get some new cheap tires for it and get it on the
>road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a Benz decade.
>>>
>>> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
>Nokian?  Something else?
>>>
>>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had good luck with Hankooks, too.  They were pretty reasonably priced, I 
thought.

-D


> On Apr 10, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> I make you good price sailor!
> 
> I see these Kumhos on Tirerack, with $75 rebate they come to $62/tire which 
> is pretty good.  Someone said these are OK tires? I could go with that.  They 
> have some local installers they will ship them to, their warehouse is just 
> down Savannah so it wouldn't take but a coupla days to get here.
> 
> https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho=Ecsta+PA31=155VR6PA31XL=true=yes=Mercedes-Benz=1999=E300%20Diesel=
> 
> --FT
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> On 4/10/18 6:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
>>> still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did 
>>> light off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  
>>> gonna get some new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like 
>>> jumping ahead a Benz decade.
>>> 
>>> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
>>> Something else?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I make you good price sailor!

I see these Kumhos on Tirerack, with $75 rebate they come to $62/tire 
which is pretty good.  Someone said these are OK tires? I could go with 
that.  They have some local installers they will ship them to, their 
warehouse is just down Savannah so it wouldn't take but a coupla days to 
get here.


https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho=Ecsta+PA31=155VR6PA31XL=true=yes=Mercedes-Benz=1999=E300%20Diesel=

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On 4/10/18 6:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get some 
new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a 
Benz decade.

What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
Something else?

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
prices were decent last year.
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
> still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
> off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get 
> some new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping 
> ahead a Benz decade. 
> 
> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
> Something else?
> 
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[MBZ] Great Leap Forward

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get some 
new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a 
Benz decade. 

What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
Something else?

--R
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