Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
heel and toeing saves your engine, and trans. The whole idea behind heel and toe is to match engine, trans and wheel speed. As speed increases, it pays in other ways too, as you heel and toe gives you a nice stable platform, and you can then seperate different parts of the car and allow them to w

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 22, 2007 7:56 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know there are a lot of left-foot brakers out there. > How? Because of the number of cars with brake lights on > when they're obviously not decelerating, either steadily > or intermittently. I've made the same observation, althoug

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Fmiser
> > >> ... And on occasion am trying to learn "heel > > >> and toe" braking technique on the 5 spd 16V > > >> > > >> Chuck > > >Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove > > >a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just > > >right, and it > > giv

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, its not a diesel list. E M wrote: > Not meant as a flame or insult to any who use their left foot, I do too at > times. But not for reaction time. I don't know of any driving instructor > who would suggest using your left foot to brake, in the real world, would > increase you safety or braki

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Bob, You will get a call... Chuck On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Robert Rentfro wrote: > Chuck, from an island, told Mr. Jim: > > > "Be back in Phoenix mid January.. > > Will give you a call then.." > > Let me know too. It would be nice to see your faces. > > Bob R. > >

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Ed, Then there is always "powershifting"... (no clutch at all!) Chuck On Dec 21, 2007, at 8:16 PM, E M wrote: > Chuck, > > Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a > stick > without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and > it gives > a smile no

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
Not meant as a flame or insult to any who use their left foot, I do too at times. But not for reaction time. I don't know of any driving instructor who would suggest using your left foot to brake, in the real world, would increase you safety or braking time in anyway. As far as I know, even thou

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
And the Diesel contact to this flame trap would be?? -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 K

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers/Chuck

2007-12-22 Thread JFreezn
<> Chuck, I did start out by saying I hate left foot brakers, then I changed it to avoid personal connotations. My daughter is a left foot braker, as are most type A personalities, some of whom, I actually like! Ya, we definitely have to do lunch and get caught up. Jim Friesen P

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey
> Nobody ever suggested that you "Rest" your left foot on the brake > pedal. You pulled that out of the air. I know there are a lot of left-foot brakers out there. How? Because of the number of cars with brake lights on when they're obviously not decelerating, either steadily or intermittently.

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
If you're putting your trust in your reaction time by left braking alone, you're already off the road and in the ditch. Think ahead and start reacting before you "need" to. I'd even dare to say, brake pressure if more important that that first reaction time. You can get on the brakes as fast as

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread E M
Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Ed 300E 911SC On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. >

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. Not something useful in rush hour traffic. The famed Jimmy Clark always had a car w/automatic for city use. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton,

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
This is getting silly. Nobody ever suggested that you "Rest" your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. Drive with 2 feet, your choice. Choose to follow me and I have better reaction times because I often brake with my left foot, the choice of lawyers will be mine. -- Re

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Robert Rentfro
Chuck, from an island, told Mr. Jim: "Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.." Let me know too. It would be nice to see your faces. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbpa

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yeah, I hate those idiotic behaviors you describe. But they're caused by inept, careless driving by inept, careless drivers - not by left-foot-braking. Brian On Dec 21, 2007 9:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROT

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-21 Thread Timothy Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:18:09 EST > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers > > > In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-21 Thread E M
Chuck, Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift system ever will. If you want to be one with your car, and get the most out of it, heel and toe. :-) Ed 300E On 22/

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-21 Thread Chuck Landenberger
>> I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Hey Jim. Does this mean we can't get together for lunch sometime. 'Cuz I regularly left foot brake And on occasion am trying to learn "heel and toe" braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Be back in Phoen

Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers

2007-12-21 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission woul