Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-17 Thread Max
Sounds good! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-17 Thread dseretakis
Exciting! Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally got some time tonight to fart around with my '78 240D what we replaced the head gasket on last weekend. Actually I didn't really have the time but I forced it in anyway, I couldn't

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-17 Thread Craig
On Fri, 17 May 2013 02:36:09 -0400 Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Sounds good! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Ummm ... I'm all for trimming posts, but it seems this is a little over-zealous. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I know, I'm sorry. I'll try to do better. -Curt Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 21:01:16 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux Message-ID: CANZcij_vAsU1gEowbV0n5-rgSSkKURwZyW5ahj-RdS84Xh6X=q...@mail.gmail.com

[MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-16 Thread Curt Raymond
Finally got some time tonight to fart around with my '78 240D what we replaced the head gasket on last weekend. Actually I didn't really have the time but I forced it in anyway, I couldn't bear to leave it while I'm on vacation next week. Anyway buttoned up the cooling system, the oil cooler

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-16 Thread OK Don
WHAT??? Your vacation DOESN'T revolve around working on your cars??? On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally got some time tonight to fart around with my '78 240D what we replaced the head gasket on last weekend. Actually I didn't really have the

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket Q part deux

2013-05-16 Thread Craig
On Thu, 16 May 2013 21:01:16 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: WHAT??? Your vacation DOESN'T revolve around working on your cars??? Can we even consider allowing someone to continue being on the list whose vacation doesn't revolve around working on his cars? :-) Craig

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-04 Thread John Reames
It got a new head gasket and was fine for at least another 50k, when someone knocked the car out from under me. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 3, 2013, at 20:47, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Pull the head, if its not

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-04 Thread Curt Raymond
: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? Message-ID: ce134f13-e7b0-4965-aa42-039568ecd...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii It got a new head gasket and was fine for at least another 50k, when someone knocked the car out from under me. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-04 Thread dseretakis
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? Message-ID: ce134f13-e7b0-4965-aa42-039568ecd...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii It got a new head gasket and was fine for at least another 50k, when someone knocked the car out from under me. -- John W Reames

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-04 Thread Curt Raymond
If the headgasket makes it run again its worst problem will be rust. The end of its life will most likely come from rust. -Curt Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 09:38:39 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? Message-ID: 377192ef

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-03 Thread Brian Toscano
Pull the head, if its not cracked do a head gasket. If it is cracked, part out or scrap the car. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:46 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: There is another (odd!) mode of failure; I had a 617 weep out of the passenger side of the head/block interface when the

[MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Okay Dimitri's enthusiasm has spurred me to think about replacing the headgasket on my '78 240D so I'm now looking at the while I'm there list. If I've got to go that far into the engine what else should I probably be doing? Thus far I'm thinking timing chain and guides, anything else to put on

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread dseretakis
When I replaced my timing chain this winter, I didn't end up replacing the large banana rail and left lower guide due to access issues. With the head off, I imagine that they are accessible. I have these two parts new in wrapper ready to donate if you want Sent from my iPhone On May 2,

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
SOLD! Anything else? I'll need to order parts soon to be ready for next weekend... -Curt Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 10:07:19 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there Message-ID: 5f8b42ed-c8da-4db7-a9b0

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Craig
On Thu, 2 May 2013 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: SOLD! Anything else? I'll need to order parts soon to be ready for next weekend... Intake and exhaust manifold gaskets? Oil filter to block gasket? Block heater? V-belts? Thermostat? Craig

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Dieselhead
Should be in the headset. How about spare bolts/nuts for the exhaust pipe? Hose for between the t'stat and WP? Seals for Inj nozzle holders? On Thu, 2 May 2013 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: SOLD! Anything else? I'll need to order parts soon to be ready

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread dseretakis
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there Message-ID: 5f8b42ed-c8da-4db7-a9b0-e41d8d8cd...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii When I replaced my timing chain this winter, I didn't end up replacing the large banana

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread John Reames
Turbo drain at the block is gonna be virtually free. When I pulled the head on one of mine, I left the manifolds attached. Don't forget to buy a new chain tensioner gasket. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 2, 2013, at 15:16, Craig

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread John Reames
May 2013 10:07:19 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there Message-ID: 5f8b42ed-c8da-4db7-a9b0-e41d8d8cd...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii When I replaced my timing chain

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-02 Thread John Reames
There is another (odd!) mode of failure; I had a 617 weep out of the passenger side of the head/block interface when the engine got good and hot. I attribute it to the DPO putting green in the radiator. I finally noticed the yellowish trails down the side of the block from the stuff left

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
! -Curt Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 13:16:04 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there Message-ID: 20130502131604.b4942d2b2cac05f370b4b...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 May

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there Message-ID: a06240884cda87c7b3b85@[192.168.0.108] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Should be in the headset. How about spare bolts/nuts for the exhaust pipe? Hose for between

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread Dieselhead
New head bolts? Do those get replaced? Sent from my iPhone Generally not on a 616, unless it has been apart before, or many times before. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket: while I'm there

2013-05-02 Thread clay
Drop the oil pan and swap out the gasket. Clean the intake and exhaust manifolds. Refinish the exhaust manifold to remove rust/corrosion and give it a good painting. clay On May 2, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Okay Dimitri's enthusiasm has spurred me to think about replacing

[MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond
So how do I at home troubleshoot a blown headgasket? Driving to work yesterday my '78 240D started to heat up in heavy traffic, once I was moving it was okay, I cranked the heat which blew hot and got it to work. At lunch I added maybe a quart of coolant which brought it up to just below the

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread Max Dillon
Send oil sample to Larry, lab can pick up presence of glycol in oil. That narrows it to cracked head or blown head gasket. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So how do I at home troubleshoot a blown headgasket? Driving to

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread David Bruckmann
On 5/2/13, Curt Raymond wrote: In playing with it I find I can put coolant it but it bubbles right out of the neck of the radiator again. Cracked radiator neck perhaps? It might hold a vacuum but maybe not pressure... Also: not sure on the 616, but the early 617 engines had a bleed screw on the

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread G Mann
If I read between the lines correctly, head gasket is leaking, stage 1. At stage 1, the coolant is pushed out the coolant overflow, hot exhaust gases are under much more pressure than the coolant pressure so the pressure wave of the cylinders keeps coolant pushed out of the cylinders. The

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond
/force me into it I'd probably do it, Q Jr. has one for $79... -Curt Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 19:20:31 -0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? Message-ID: 98fbfea0-98f0-44ed-84dd-71925f43d...@email.android.com

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond
is marked 617. -Curt --- On Wed, 5/1/13, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 8:42 PM On 5/2/13

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread Craig
On Wed, 1 May 2013 16:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: #2. The thermostat has stuck shut but this doesn't explain coolant #bubbling out of the radiator neck... I had a Willys Utility Wagon that once had a stuck thermostat. Its temperature went up very rapidly and the

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread Frederick Moir
Curt. You yawped, Sir?   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? I had planned to do that after the massive overheat

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread clay
I have a pair of old school radiators that have brass tops. I think they are for the /8 BEHR, might fit the w123? or whatever we are discussing. clay On May 1, 2013, at 5:42 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: On 5/2/13, Curt Raymond wrote: In playing with it I find I can put coolant it but it

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread clay
. has one for $79... -Curt Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 19:20:31 -0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? Message-ID: 98fbfea0-98f0-44ed-84dd-71925f43d...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] Headgasket?

2013-05-01 Thread dseretakis
, 01 May 2013 19:20:31 -0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headgasket? Message-ID: 98fbfea0-98f0-44ed-84dd-71925f43d...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Send oil sample to Larry, lab