[MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread W. Lasher
According to Mobile web site M-1 0W-30
is an approved Diesel oil…is it approved for MB’s?
What are the mew codes for Diesel oil?
(ie: CF)   I’m just about ready to go back to Delo 400 with all this
confusion.
At least I can get it through Costco
Walt Lasher
Seattle
1992  W-140 S350




Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread LT Don
I seem to remember some folks using approved 0-W-30 back when the other
choice was 15-W-50. I am using the Truck/SUV at the moment (approved).

On 3/22/06, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 According to Mobile web site M-1 0W-30
 is an approved Diesel oil…is it approved for MB's?
 What are the mew codes for Diesel oil?
 (ie: CF)   I'm just about ready to go back to Delo 400 with all this
 confusion.
 At least I can get it through Costco
 Walt Lasher
 Seattle
 1992  W-140 S350


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Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread Marshall Booth

W. Lasher wrote:

According to Mobile web site M-1 0W-30
is an approved Diesel oil…is it approved for MB’s?
What are the mew codes for Diesel oil?
(ie: CF)   I’m just about ready to go back to Delo 400 with all this
confusion.
At least I can get it through Costco


According to Wolfgang's page that lists Mercedes oil recommendations:

http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

some oils which are NOT recommended:

Mobil 1 SuperSyn  0W-30 SL/SJ/CF  A1/B1/A5  9.7  doesn't meet 229.1 nor 
ACEA A2 or A3
Mobil 1 SuperSyn  5W-30 SL/SJ/CF  A1/B1/A5  9.8  doesn't meet 229.1 nor 
ACEA A2 or A3
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 10W-30 SL/SJ/CF  A1/B1/A5 10.1  doesn't meet 229.1 nor 
ACEA A2 or A3
These 3 oils do not meet MB spec of  3.5 cP for high temperature high 
shear strength.


The Mobil 1 0W-40 IS most highly recommended however and meets the most 
severe criteria. Mobil 1 15W-50 Extended (while NOT yet recommended) is 
likely to be recommended (if it's ever tested) as it essentially the old 
approved 15W-50 formula with little more of the more expensive group V 
ester fraction added to the less expensive group IV PAO component.


Mobil 1 Truck  SUV has been reformulated as a 0W-30 oil, and is 
recommended ONLY for gasoline engines. There is a Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel 
Truck 5W-40 formula (identical to the old TSUV and to Delvac 1) that is 
being manufactured, but I don't know of a single human that has actually 
seen it for sale anywhere.


http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1.aspx

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread Dave M.
Short answer: NO.

Long answer: MB approved oils are xW-40 or xW-50. Anything xW-30 is
too thin, no matter what silly rating is on the bottle, or what
Mobil claims on the label. Also, the current M-1 Truck  SUV is NOT
approved, as it is 5W-30, and therefore too thin. You want the new M-1
Turbo Diesel Truck variety, which is 5W-40.

Stick with either the 5W-40 or 15W-50 if you use Mobil-1.

-dm


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 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:35:29 -0600
 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?


 I seem to remember some folks using approved 0-W-30 back when the other
 choice was 15-W-50. I am using the Truck/SUV at the moment (approved).

 On 3/22/06, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  According to Mobile web site M-1 0W-30
  is an approved Diesel oil?is it approved for MB's?
  What are the mew codes for Diesel oil?
  (ie: CF)   I'm just about ready to go back to Delo 400 with all this
  confusion.
  At least I can get it through Costco
  Walt Lasher
  Seattle
  1992  W-140 S350



Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Marshall

Went out to the garage to review the labels on the 5 qt jugs I have - I'm
one person that has a stock of Truck and SUV 5W -40 (yellow capped) and
Extended performance 15W-50 performance Vancouver Washington Walmart may be
6 months - year ago.

Dennis T

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?
Mobil 1 Truck  SUV has been reformulated as a 0W-30 oil, and is 
recommended ONLY for gasoline engines. There is a Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel 
Truck 5W-40 formula (identical to the old TSUV and to Delvac 1) that is 
being manufactured, but I don't know of a single human that has actually 
seen it for sale anywhere.

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Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
What about 5w30 or 5w40?

~I seem to remember some folks using approved 0-W-30 back when the other
~choice was 15-W-50. I am using the Truck/SUV at the moment (approved).
~
~On 3/22/06, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
~
~ According to Mobile web site M-1 0W-30
~ is an approved Diesel oil…is it approved for MB's?
~ What are the mew codes for Diesel oil?
~ (ie: CF)   I'm just about ready to go back to Delo 400 with all this
~ confusion.
~ At least I can get it through Costco
~ Walt Lasher
~ Seattle
~ 1992  W-140 S350
~



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Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread Marshall Booth

Luther Gulseth wrote:

What about 5w30 or 5w40?



M-1 xW-30 (where the x can be 0, 5, 10 or 15) is NOT suitable. xW-40 or 
xW-50 IS suitable.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread John P English
I have been searching the product data sheet library at the ExxonMobil web
site for the specs on the new Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 formula and
have been unable to find any specs.  What is your source for concluding that
it is (or will be) identical to the old TSUV and to Delvac 1.  Also, I
read a press release in which ExxonMobil
said that the new Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 would be in the retail stores by
the middle of April this year.
JP

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Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?


W. Lasher wrote:
 According to Mobile web site M-1 0W-30
 is an approved Diesel oil…is it approved for MB’s?
 What are the mew codes for Diesel oil?
 (ie: CF)   I’m just about ready to go back to Delo 400 with all this
 confusion.
 At least I can get it through Costco

According to Wolfgang's page that lists Mercedes oil recommendations:

http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

some oils which are NOT recommended:

Mobil 1 SuperSyn  0W-30 SL/SJ/CF  A1/B1/A5  9.7  doesn't meet 229.1 nor
ACEA A2 or A3
Mobil 1 SuperSyn  5W-30 SL/SJ/CF  A1/B1/A5  9.8  doesn't meet 229.1 nor
ACEA A2 or A3
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 10W-30 SL/SJ/CF  A1/B1/A5 10.1  doesn't meet 229.1 nor
ACEA A2 or A3
These 3 oils do not meet MB spec of  3.5 cP for high temperature high
shear strength.

The Mobil 1 0W-40 IS most highly recommended however and meets the most
severe criteria. Mobil 1 15W-50 Extended (while NOT yet recommended) is
likely to be recommended (if it's ever tested) as it essentially the old
approved 15W-50 formula with little more of the more expensive group V
ester fraction added to the less expensive group IV PAO component.

Mobil 1 Truck  SUV has been reformulated as a 0W-30 oil, and is
recommended ONLY for gasoline engines. There is a Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel
Truck 5W-40 formula (identical to the old TSUV and to Delvac 1) that is
being manufactured, but I don't know of a single human that has actually
seen it for sale anywhere.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck
_5W-40.aspx

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1.aspx

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Is M-1 0W-30 approved MB oil?

2006-03-22 Thread LT Don
I have been cleaning out the shelves of the old Truck/SUV (5-W-40 I think)
whenever I find it.

On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Luther Gulseth wrote:
  What about 5w30 or 5w40?
 

 M-1 xW-30 (where the x can be 0, 5, 10 or 15) is NOT suitable. xW-40 or
 xW-50 IS suitable.

 Marshall
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 '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
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