Re: [MBZ] Jug of soy
I thin with Diesel or Kerosene. You will have to play with the percentages yourself. A lot depends on the type and condition of the waste oil. I just dump in all in the tank. I don't premix. You have to thin more was it gets colder. -Dave Walton On 10/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by thinned wvo, do you mean mixed with diesel that's in the tank? and how does it work in the cold? Yes, but to be safe, carry an extra fuel filter and tools to swap it just in case. We've gone 3 years and over 40K miles on thinned WVO in my wife's 99 E300 without changing the fuel filter, but I am quite anal-retentive about filtering the oil. With a positive pressure system you can easily go 1 micron. -Dave Walton On 10/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, ok...i wasn't really paying attention to the vegi-diesel thing so far...but today i noticed about 6 5-gal pails od used oil behind my lunch place (vietnamese)...after straining, is this stuff ready to use in my '86 sdl? Rotkäppchen?? Was bedeutet das? On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget taxes, if you pay on food there. In PA you do not pay taxes on unprepared food (or clothes). In MO you do...but in MO you DONT pay taxes on precious metals purchases (bullion/coins)...oh well. Chris --- L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, etc.) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Jug of soy
Dave writes: I thin with Diesel or Kerosene. You will have to play with the percentages yourself. A lot depends on the type and condition of the waste oil. I just dump in all in the tank. I don't premix. You have to thin more was it gets colder. Wait a minute. You just take the waste oil and pour it into the fuel tank? I thought you had to go through some processing before it was usable. Lee
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2% tax on food soy in NC. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Jug of soy
rumor has it that Lee wrote: Dave writes: I thin with Diesel or Kerosene. You will have to play with the percentages yourself. A lot depends on the type and condition of the waste oil. I just dump in all in the tank. I don't premix. You have to thin more was it gets colder. Wait a minute. You just take the waste oil and pour it into the fuel tank? I thought you had to go through some processing before it was usable. There are three ways to use vegi oil in a diesel. * VO (vegitable oil) - this is clean, new oil. Depending on what plant it came from and how it was processed it may be too thick at fuel-tank temperatures. This can be fix with a tank heater (usually the VO is in a second tank with dino-diesel in the first) dino is used for start-up and shutdown 'cause it's hard to heat fuel in the lines and pumps. Or it can be mixed with dino in the main tank. The dino-diesel is used to dilute the VO enough that it doesn't need a heater. It's often not necessary to filter and de-water VO. * WVO (waste vegitable oil) - Much more variable, but usually much cheaper. WVO must be filtered and de-watering is a usually a good plan. Then it's basically the same as VO - heater or blend. * Biodiesel - Startes life as VO or WVO, but is then transesterfied chemically. It's properties do vary with the base stock, but in shirt-sleeve weather it is a drop-in replacement for dino-diesel. For more info, join the biodiesel list! http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/biodiesel_striplin.net Philip, dreamin' of biodiesel
[MBZ] Jug of soy
35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton
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At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton
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don't forget taxes, if you pay on food there. In PA you do not pay taxes on unprepared food (or clothes). In MO you do...but in MO you DONT pay taxes on precious metals purchases (bullion/coins)...oh well. Chris --- L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, etc.) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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ok, ok...i wasn't really paying attention to the vegi-diesel thing so far...but today i noticed about 6 5-gal pails od used oil behind my lunch place (vietnamese)...after straining, is this stuff ready to use in my '86 sdl? Rotkäppchen?? Was bedeutet das? On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget taxes, if you pay on food there. In PA you do not pay taxes on unprepared food (or clothes). In MO you do...but in MO you DONT pay taxes on precious metals purchases (bullion/coins)...oh well. Chris --- L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, etc.) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Jug of soy
by thinned wvo, do you mean mixed with diesel that's in the tank? and how does it work in the cold? Yes, but to be safe, carry an extra fuel filter and tools to swap it just in case. We've gone 3 years and over 40K miles on thinned WVO in my wife's 99 E300 without changing the fuel filter, but I am quite anal-retentive about filtering the oil. With a positive pressure system you can easily go 1 micron. -Dave Walton On 10/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, ok...i wasn't really paying attention to the vegi-diesel thing so far...but today i noticed about 6 5-gal pails od used oil behind my lunch place (vietnamese)...after straining, is this stuff ready to use in my '86 sdl? Rotkäppchen?? Was bedeutet das? On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget taxes, if you pay on food there. In PA you do not pay taxes on unprepared food (or clothes). In MO you do...but in MO you DONT pay taxes on precious metals purchases (bullion/coins)...oh well. Chris --- L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, etc.) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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signature altered with translation. Chris --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rotkäppchen?? Was bedeutet das? On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget taxes, if you pay on food there. In PA you do not pay taxes on unprepared food (or clothes). In MO you do...but in MO you DONT pay taxes on precious metals purchases (bullion/coins)...oh well. Chris --- L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, etc.) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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andrew, 1. ideally, you would heat in a 55 gallon steel drum to dewater 2. pre-filter through thick denim into another barrel 3. pump (northertool.com - 1/2 or 1/4 hp clear water pump is $40) into a 4. GE water filter ($40 at Home Depot) that filters to 5-15 microns. In my AKP-Wagen, I simply filter through denim and dump in tank, but that is playing with fire. I will soon set up a much better system. Do carry extra filters. Luther has been running 60% mixes or so. Someone reported 75-80% mixes with the remainder being Kero (it's thinner than D2). It will obviously gel much faster in cold weather than D2. Chris --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, ok...i wasn't really paying attention to the vegi-diesel thing so far...but today i noticed about 6 5-gal pails od used oil behind my lunch place (vietnamese)...after straining, is this stuff ready to use in my '86 sdl? Rotkäppchen?? Was bedeutet das? On 10/5/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't forget taxes, if you pay on food there. In PA you do not pay taxes on unprepared food (or clothes). In MO you do...but in MO you DONT pay taxes on precious metals purchases (bullion/coins)...oh well. Chris --- L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At CostCo, it's 71 cents per quart -- $2.84 per gallon. Cheapest diesel fuel in these parts is $2.97. --mf On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:52 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 35 lb. jug of soy oil = ~4.6 gal. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP and/or injectors, etc.) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 149K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/WATF/WGL/Kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
