Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I saw a Youtube video of a guy enclosing the unhusked nuts in a cage and
then power washing them to remove the husks.  No such automated process to
crack them once de-husked, however.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 May get a walnut-stained area on driveway, depending on humidity/moisture..

 Wilton


 If you can't live with the stains, buy the nut meats.  The stains will
 wear off over time, and the stains on your hands will go away with time
 also.  The piles of walnut hulls I dumped eventually biodegraded and
 stopped bleeding brown/black with each rain.

 I hulled semiloads of black walnuts for several years.

 If you want to earn your own Juglans Nigra nut meats, then you have to
 wear the badges of courage.


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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yes that was great fun, as was scrounging old bicycle tire inner tubes 
and fashioning big slingshots to launch them.


--R



On 3/19/15 1:14 PM, WILTON wrote:
I remember playing base ball with the greenuns several times - green 
walnuts for the ball; piecea whatever was available (oak, hickory, 
pine) for the bat.  I still enjoy innovating, but being poor is a 
much stronger incentive to do it.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD


When I was a kid we would collect them and put them in the gravel 
driveway or side road and let the cars run over them awhile.  You 
have to get them when the husks are all brown and rotted, the green 
husks are like bowling balls.  My granddaddy, who probably had some 
sort of OCD, would then spend hours going at them with a hammer and 
whatever else to get a small bowlfull of them, which my grandmother 
would use to make cookies that vanished immediately.


--R 



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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-19 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Having been out of the airplane for 3 years while in engineering school at 
NC State U, I was required to attend B-52 combat crew training a second time 
at Atwater, CA, from July through Oct 1971 (first time July through Oct 
1962).
Across the street from where we lived in Atwater were large English walnut 
and almond orchards that appeared to have been abandoned.  Grass and weeds 
had fairly well taken them over, and we never saw anybody there; coupla For 
Sale signs were posted on the property.  Coupla days before departing in 
late Oct for my assignment at Kincheloe, MI, I walked over into the orchards 
and found the ground covered with beautiful almonds and walnuts, some of 
them obviously there for several days.  Late the afternoon before leaving, 
SWMBO, the 3 children and I went into the orchards and gathered up a 
significant box full of each.  Just before we left for MI the next day, our 
land lady came to wish us well and to present us a gift - another 
significant box each of the nuts.  I tried to tell her that I was  very 
appreciative,  but we had scrounged (swiped/stolen) some from the orchards 
across the street the day before and that she should keep them for herself. 
She replied, That's where I got these!  Here, please take 'em I picked them 
up for you.  The land has been sold; they're ripping out all of the trees 
and gonna build houses there.  I thanked her profusely, put 'em in the car 
and drove away with well over a bushel of each.  We shelled and enjoyed 
almonds and English walnuts for months.


BTW, in July of '72. when I went  back through there for D-model (B-52D, 
that is) difference training en route to war in SE Asia, all of the trees 
were gone and the area was nearly filled with houses


Wilton

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On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:48:55 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?

--R

there is no western variety.  Eastern Black Walnut, Juglans Nigra
or the carpathian walnut, aka english walnut, persian walnut, etc.
Juglans Regia

Carpathian walnuts are grown in Kollyfornia.  They try to make
believe it is the only walnut.  Black walnuts are way better tasting.


When we lived in the San Luis Obispo area, one of the back roads had
volunteer black walnut trees along the fence lines. A lot of the nuts
fell onto the county right-of-way. We picked up a number of them in paper
shopping bags and took them home.

Shirley's method of cracking them was a plastic pan about 10x14x5H, a
brick, and a hammer. It was not an easy task cracking them. Definitely
black walnut, juglans nigra.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-19 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I remember playing base ball with the greenuns several times - green 
walnuts for the ball; piecea whatever was available (oak, hickory, pine) 
for the bat.  I still enjoy innovating, but being poor is a much stronger 
incentive to do it.


Wilton

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD


When I was a kid we would collect them and put them in the gravel driveway 
or side road and let the cars run over them awhile.  You have to get them 
when the husks are all brown and rotted, the green husks are like bowling 
balls.  My granddaddy, who probably had some sort of OCD, would then spend 
hours going at them with a hammer and whatever else to get a small 
bowlfull of them, which my grandmother would use to make cookies that 
vanished immediately.


--R



On 3/18/15 11:07 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Let 'em dry, they'll come right off.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD



How do you remove the husks before cracking them?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

wrote:


On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:48:55 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?
 
 --R

 there is no western variety.  Eastern Black Walnut, Juglans Nigra
 or the carpathian walnut, aka english walnut, persian walnut, etc.
 Juglans Regia

 Carpathian walnuts are grown in Kollyfornia.  They try to make
 believe it is the only walnut.  Black walnuts are way better tasting.

When we lived in the San Luis Obispo area, one of the back roads had
volunteer black walnut trees along the fence lines. A lot of the nuts
fell onto the county right-of-way. We picked up a number of them in 
paper

shopping bags and took them home.

Shirley's method of cracking them was a plastic pan about 10x14x5H, 
a

brick, and a hammer. It was not an easy task cracking them. Definitely
black walnut, juglans nigra.


Craig

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[MBZ] Juglans Wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Naa, they are all the same.  Juglans.   Eastern Black walnut is 
native to the USA; Carpathian walnuts are ...not native...   I can 
crack carpathian walnuts with  my bare hands.  IF you can crack a 
black walnut with your bare hands, I DON'T want to shake your hand! 
(don't want the bones in my hand crushed)




So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?

--R


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[MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?

--R


there is no western variety.  Eastern Black Walnut, Juglans Nigra 
or the carpathian walnut, aka english walnut, persian walnut, etc. 
Juglans Regia


Carpathian walnuts are grown in Kollyfornia.  They try to make 
believe it is the only walnut.  Black walnuts are way better tasting.


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Re: [MBZ] Juglans Wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And black walnuts cost twice as much because of this and the fact that the
nut does not neatly come out whole once the shell is cracked. There is a
processing plant in the Ozarks that has a secret way to mass-crack black
walnuts and sort shells from the nuts, so they are really cleaning up..

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Naa, they are all the same.  Juglans.   Eastern Black walnut is native to
 the USA; Carpathian walnuts are ...not native...   I can crack carpathian
 walnuts with  my bare hands.  IF you can crack a black walnut with your
 bare hands, I DON'T want to shake your hand! (don't want the bones in my
 hand crushed)


  So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?

 --R


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Re: [MBZ] Juglans Wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I want to be in the black walnut processing business.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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 And black walnuts cost twice as much because of this and the fact that the
 nut does not neatly come out whole once the shell is cracked. There is a
 processing plant in the Ozarks that has a secret way to mass-crack black
 walnuts and sort shells from the nuts, so they are really cleaning up..


 Yes, that is Hammons.  they also sell ground shells for shell blasting
 your bundts.

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Re: [MBZ] Juglans Wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
And black walnuts cost twice as much because of this and the fact 
that the nut does not neatly come out whole once the shell is 
cracked. There is a processing plant in the Ozarks that has a secret 
way to mass-crack black walnuts and sort shells from the nuts, so 
they are really cleaning up..


Yes, that is Hammons.  they also sell ground shells for shell 
blasting your bundts.


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Re: [MBZ] Juglans Wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
There is a new blasting option on the market which preforms better than
soda.

It's called Dustless Blasting and the results are pretty impressive.

http://www.dustlessblasting.com/automotive.html  This link should take you
to information and some video samples of how it works.

I was impressed.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I want to be in the black walnut processing business.

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  And black walnuts cost twice as much because of this and the fact that
 the
  nut does not neatly come out whole once the shell is cracked. There is a
  processing plant in the Ozarks that has a secret way to mass-crack black
  walnuts and sort shells from the nuts, so they are really cleaning up..
 
 
  Yes, that is Hammons.  they also sell ground shells for shell blasting
  your bundts.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How do you remove the husks before cracking them?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:48:55 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?
  
  --R
 
  there is no western variety.  Eastern Black Walnut, Juglans Nigra
  or the carpathian walnut, aka english walnut, persian walnut, etc.
  Juglans Regia
 
  Carpathian walnuts are grown in Kollyfornia.  They try to make
  believe it is the only walnut.  Black walnuts are way better tasting.

 When we lived in the San Luis Obispo area, one of the back roads had
 volunteer black walnut trees along the fence lines. A lot of the nuts
 fell onto the county right-of-way. We picked up a number of them in paper
 shopping bags and took them home.

 Shirley's method of cracking them was a plastic pan about 10x14x5H, a
 brick, and a hammer. It was not an easy task cracking them. Definitely
 black walnut, juglans nigra.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:48:55 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?
 
 --R
 
 there is no western variety.  Eastern Black Walnut, Juglans Nigra 
 or the carpathian walnut, aka english walnut, persian walnut, etc. 
 Juglans Regia
 
 Carpathian walnuts are grown in Kollyfornia.  They try to make 
 believe it is the only walnut.  Black walnuts are way better tasting.

When we lived in the San Luis Obispo area, one of the back roads had
volunteer black walnut trees along the fence lines. A lot of the nuts
fell onto the county right-of-way. We picked up a number of them in paper
shopping bags and took them home.

Shirley's method of cracking them was a plastic pan about 10x14x5H, a
brick, and a hammer. It was not an easy task cracking them. Definitely
black walnut, juglans nigra.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

May get a walnut-stained area on driveway, depending on humidity/moisture..

Wilton


If you can't live with the stains, buy the nut meats.  The stains 
will wear off over time, and the stains on your hands will go away 
with time also.  The piles of walnut hulls I dumped eventually 
biodegraded and stopped bleeding brown/black with each rain.


I hulled semiloads of black walnuts for several years.

If you want to earn your own Juglans Nigra nut meats, then you have 
to wear the badges of courage.


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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

May get a walnut-stained area on driveway, depending on humidity/moisture..

Wilton

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How do you remove the husks before cracking them?

Stomp em on the driveway, or hull them with a knobby snow tire on a wheel 
in a cage.


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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Let 'em dry, they'll come right off.

Wilton

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How do you remove the husks before cracking them?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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wrote:


On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:48:55 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So, is there a difference between the eastern and western varieties?
 
 --R

 there is no western variety.  Eastern Black Walnut, Juglans Nigra
 or the carpathian walnut, aka english walnut, persian walnut, etc.
 Juglans Regia

 Carpathian walnuts are grown in Kollyfornia.  They try to make
 believe it is the only walnut.  Black walnuts are way better tasting.

When we lived in the San Luis Obispo area, one of the back roads had
volunteer black walnut trees along the fence lines. A lot of the nuts
fell onto the county right-of-way. We picked up a number of them in paper
shopping bags and took them home.

Shirley's method of cracking them was a plastic pan about 10x14x5H, a
brick, and a hammer. It was not an easy task cracking them. Definitely
black walnut, juglans nigra.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Juglans, wuz: Re: Nice 1984 300CD

2015-03-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

How do you remove the husks before cracking them?


Stomp em on the driveway, or hull them with a knobby snow tire on a 
wheel in a cage.


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