Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-16 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
OR The petrol derivative is carbon that was sequestered for millions of years after having been sucked up by critters and plants. It has been condensed out of the feedstock, which got siphoned off into other bits of the world. The animal fats are current carbon, not historic carbon, so have

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Like coal.  Just with a bit of time displacement. --FT On 8/16/18 10:51 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: The carbon coming out of the tail pipe when burning the animal fat converted diesel was in the air already, been taken out of the air by plants which were fed to animals and is now just

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-16 Thread MG via Mercedes
You just have to read it right. The carbon coming out of the tail pipe from burning petro diesel is 'new' carbon being added to the air. The carbon coming out of the tail pipe when burning the animal fat converted diesel was in the air already, been taken out of the air by plants which were

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Soylent Green 2 - the People into Diesel On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:44 AM, clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We should use the recently perished obese to render into transportation > fuels. Lots of heavy folks who would be better used that way than wasted > in boxes or

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Plant closed because Federal Funding dried up and grants expired... If you look at the cycle life of alternate fuel production on the big picture, rather than only a local plant development, it will give you a much enhanced understanding of "how things actually work" in the solandra type

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
We should use the recently perished obese to render into transportation fuels. Lots of heavy folks who would be better used that way than wasted in boxes or urns clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:21 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well, this is the

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
There was a thermal depolymerization plant set up for ConAgra that used Turkey offal to make diesel. I am not sure why it failed, but the plant closed down. Maybe they were unable to process the feed stock fast enough to overcome the stench of death. Probably the Finns are less prone to

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Don't you enjoy the aroma of fresh poutine minus the gravy? On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wouldn't want to live down wind of that plant. > > RB > > On 15/08/2018 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > >> It's chemically almost

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
It is not compatible with modern diesel engines, unless you disable some of the emmissions controls in the computer (and increasing your fuel mileage).  https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a6326/4311498/

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I wouldn't want to live down wind of that plant. RB On 15/08/2018 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: It's chemically almost the same, but chemically, it's entirely different. Rendered animal fat is nothing new, Tyson had a plant up and running years ago. Just think of all the tons of

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
It's chemically almost the same, but chemically, it's entirely different. Rendered animal fat is nothing new, Tyson had a plant up and running years ago. Just think of all the tons of chicken goop Tyson has to deal with on an hourly basis.

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Well, this just doesn't ring true - "The product has almost the same chemical makeup as diesel made from fossil fuels but emits a fraction of the carbon emissions." Sounds like a perpetual motion machine - BS. You can't get energy from combining long chain carbon molecules with oxygen without

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Creative minds at work. I was thinking about all the chicken fat that I throw away. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The plastic surgeons would certainly seize the opportunity to charge the > fat refiners a fee, and they would profit on

Re: [MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
The plastic surgeons would certainly seize the opportunity to charge the fat refiners a fee, and they would profit on both ends! That’s the American way!! Kevin at Disneyland, returning soon to Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:21 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote:

[MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Well, this is the perfect solution for the USA and maybe the world. Get all the plastic surgeons to save all the fat they suck out of humans trying to make them "pretty". Use that fat to make biodiesel. The fat would be free and no people or animals would need to be killed to provide it. If

[MBZ] Low E Finnish diesel substitute made from animal fats

2018-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This oil company is turning animal fat into dieselPublished: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 Finnish company Neste Oil is turning animal fat and plant oil into renewable diesel — and outperforming some traditional oil majors. The product has almost the same chemical makeup as diesel made from fossil