Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
You might also want to reset the PRAM. This won't hurt anything - it just takes all the system settings back to the defaults. You won't even see a change. Hold down P-R-Option (alt)-Command (Apple) keys, then power up. Continue holding this key combination down until the machine does it's characteristic bong tone, and keep holding down until it restarts. MacDann --- On Fri, 10/22/10, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MacBook question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, October 22, 2010, 7:56 PM Thanks, Curt. got it. Gerry --- #1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MacBook question
MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
Hold the power button down until is shuts off, or pull the battery and power plug (oops, can't pull the battery, eh?). Check the preferences in mail, it's possible you typed something in wrong and it cannot connect. There is also a connection doctor in there somewhere that may help. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
First, try the three finger salute, that is command, option and escape at the same time. That brings up the force quit window. In the Force Quit window, you can choose the email program that is hanging. The default forced shutdown is to hold the start button down until the machine shuts down. The third and final option, when the first two don't work, is to remove the battery, wait 10 seconds or more, the put the battery back in. MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
On a Mac running any version of OSX, press Command-Option-Esc to bring up the task list. You can kill a deviant process from there. It should almost NEVER be necessary to use the power key. You can also do this from Terminal... get the task list using the top command and note the PID (process ID) for the deviant. Top looks like this: Processes: 63 total, 3 running, 1 stuck, 59 sleeping... 261 threads08:48:56 Load Avg: 0.07, 0.10, 0.08CPU usage: 4.85% user, 3.40% sys, 91.75% idle SharedLibs: num =7, resident = 78M code, 2108K data, 5132K linkedit. MemRegions: num = 7844, resident = 293M + 20M private, 188M shared. PhysMem: 469M wired, 574M active, 87M inactive, 1399M used, 2697M free. VM: 8654M + 387M 56662(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE 262 PubSubAgen 0.0% 0:00.01 259 27 488K 3476K 1528K21M 259 Mail 0.0% 0:02.19 14 233- 348 19M37M41M 416M 258 top 3.6% 0:01.16 120 29 572K 188K 1156K18M 247 bash 0.0% 0:00.00 114 19 304K 184K 936K18M 246 login0.0% 0:00.01 117 55 340K 228K 1112K19M 245 mdworker 0.0% 0:00.13 351 32 768K 5532K 2892K32M 243 Safari 7.3% 0:05.40 8 133300 22M18M32M 394M 238 SyncServer 0.0% 0:01.47 251 88 16M 6096K18M39M 229 AppleSpell 0.0% 0:00.03 123 30 604K 6592K 2068K34M 174 Terminal 1.1% 0:02.93 4 110196 3852K23M11M 372M 173 iCal 0.0% 0:01.44 3 107227 14M22M31M 379M 172 ATSServer0.0% 0:00.12 265 73 576K 1260K 2056K54M 169 LaunchCFMA 0.3% 1:20.63 7 169571 50M28M70M 571M 159 Canon UFR0.0% 0:00.19 168 52 524K 2268K 2488K 281M 158 LaunchCFMA 0.2% 0:09.80 268120 7712K 6296K13M 351M You can then kill the deviant process using kill followed by the PID for the thing that's locked up. So, for example, in the list above Mail has the PID of 259. To kill Mail, just type kill 259. Note that Mail may launch companion processes (eg. PubSubAgen), so killing Mail on its own might not be enough. That's why it's generally better to use the Cmd-Option-Escape method. It does a better job of nabbing all the sub-processes. When you have the mail app open, use the Activity Viewer window to see what it is doing. If you have set it up to use IMAP it may have been doing a sync with the server. That can take a long time the first time if there's lots of mail; IMAP isn't the speediest protocol. D. Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:47:21 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MacBook question Hold the power button down until is shuts off, or pull the battery and power plug (oops, can't pull the battery, eh?). Check the preferences in mail, it's possible you typed something in wrong and it cannot connect. There is also a connection doctor in there somewhere that may help. Peter On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
#1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:40:50 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MacBook question Message-ID: 004c01cb71f7$1f76c7d0$0202a...@pc466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
Thanks, Curt. got it. Gerry --- #1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MacBook question
Nice. How screwed would we be if our cars were powered by Windows? Car crash and Blue screen of death would take on entirely new significance. Lee Gerry Archer wrote: Thanks, Curt. got it. Gerry --- #1. Force quit mail. I forget what the key combination for force quit is, option-command something, I'm sure Google knows. #2. Hold the power button for 30 seconds (feels like forever) which will shut the computer off. Remember this if you're in an unintended acceleration Toyota too, press and HOLD. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MacBook question
Thanks to Peter, DH, David, and Fred. Got it turned off. Now to try and get mail connected to the ISP again. Gerry - On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: MacBook (Leopard) connects the search engine to the ISP fine. After setting up mail so it will connect to the ISP, it refused. When I tried to shut down the computer, it refused to shut down because mail was still active. Tried everything I could think of to shut down computer, but nothing worked. The only solution I can find is to let the computers battery run down, or take the battery out of the computer. Anyone have a better solution? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
