Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall 
street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is 
interested.  Pay the freight, and they are yours!


Wall street?  That would be nearly Pismo-licious, and probably
perfect for my son's Riven game, etc., but without the builtin
Airport.  (Porn-free, etc.)  Color me interested!

Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 
030, the small one.  I used it for a headless print server for quite a 
while.


That would (should?) be the SE30.  I have one, nice little machine.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Bill Rbillr32...@comcast.net wrote:
  I also have two very old mac 1400cs powerbook
 laptops that someone might need for parts.

Now that is a lovely old machine.  Plenty fast with Mac OS 9, and
there's even a web page detailing step-by-step how to set up Wi-Fi
with an original AirPort card:
http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html

They'll run Linux too:
http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=162

If you're looking for a basic web surfing machine, I suppose these are
pretty much obsoleted by the many sub-$300 netbooks out there---on the
other hand, the old PowerBook keyboards are wonderful, so they make
great portable word processors or note-takers for kids in college (and
in the latter case, no need to worry about it being stolen or lost
since you can always pick up another one for free or close to it).

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Bill R
If such is appropriate for 10 year old who is looking to have her own
computer I am interested.  I also have two very old mac 1400cs powerbook
laptops that someone might need for parts.  They still work, but require too
much for a PC trained 10 YO or a 60 YO grandpa to use. 
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

 Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall 
 street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is 
 interested.  Pay the freight, and they are yours!

Wall street?  That would be nearly Pismo-licious, and probably
perfect for my son's Riven game, etc., but without the builtin
Airport.  (Porn-free, etc.)  Color me interested!

 Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 
 030, the small one.  I used it for a headless print server for quite a 
 while.

That would (should?) be the SE30.  I have one, nice little machine.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Gary Hurst
i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net wrote:

 I suspected as much, but I have never used a mac, and she is just starting
 to learn on our PCs.  I am not at all tech savvy [it skipped a generation].
 I'm happy to ship them to someone wanting to give it a shot.  One has a zip
 drive and I have about 20 zip disks here somewhere.
 BillR

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
 Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:32 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Bill Rbillr32...@comcast.net wrote:
   I also have two very old mac 1400cs powerbook
  laptops that someone might need for parts.

 Now that is a lovely old machine.  Plenty fast with Mac OS 9, and
 there's even a web page detailing step-by-step how to set up Wi-Fi
 with an original AirPort card:
 http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html

 They'll run Linux too:
 http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=162

 If you're looking for a basic web surfing machine, I suppose these are
 pretty much obsoleted by the many sub-$300 netbooks out there---on the
 other hand, the old PowerBook keyboards are wonderful, so they make
 great portable word processors or note-takers for kids in college (and
 in the latter case, no need to worry about it being stolen or lost
 since you can always pick up another one for free or close to it).

 Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done

Did anyone ever really *use* them?  I remember a year or two where most
PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know ever using
them.  I do recall many of them being plagued with problems, eating
disks or refusing to eject them, etc.

Allan
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1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Bill R
I suspected as much, but I have never used a mac, and she is just starting
to learn on our PCs.  I am not at all tech savvy [it skipped a generation]. 
I'm happy to ship them to someone wanting to give it a shot.  One has a zip
drive and I have about 20 zip disks here somewhere.
BillR

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On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Bill Rbillr32...@comcast.net wrote:
  I also have two very old mac 1400cs powerbook
 laptops that someone might need for parts.

Now that is a lovely old machine.  Plenty fast with Mac OS 9, and
there's even a web page detailing step-by-step how to set up Wi-Fi
with an original AirPort card:
http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html

They'll run Linux too:
http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=162

If you're looking for a basic web surfing machine, I suppose these are
pretty much obsoleted by the many sub-$300 netbooks out there---on the
other hand, the old PowerBook keyboards are wonderful, so they make
great portable word processors or note-takers for kids in college (and
in the latter case, no need to worry about it being stolen or lost
since you can always pick up another one for free or close to it).

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Gary Hurst
i did, actually.  i really tried very hard to make the zip standard work.
but it really just doesn't.  blank cds and dvds are just so cheap and pen
drives are far superior to zip.  zip is dead technology for a long while.  i
don't even think i could sell my zip stuff on ebay for the cost of shipping
it.

it was cool in the beginning, to have a floppy drive that was not 1.2 meg,
but 100 then 250 and then 750 meg.  however, you can get 100 recordable
single sided dvd discs for 18 bucks delivered from new egg (well, at least i
did), so why the hell would you mess about with zip, especially as you will
be hard pressed to find a machine with a zip drive today unless you happened
to just set it up that way for your own internal use?


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done

 Did anyone ever really *use* them?  I remember a year or two where most
 PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know ever using
 them.  I do recall many of them being plagued with problems, eating
 disks or refusing to eject them, etc.

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I have one I used, tried at some point to copy files over to a hard 
drive, and Winders kept hanging up on some file that it didn't like 
(wasn't corrupted, just didn't like transferring the particular file) so 
the whole process crashed after like 15 min of grinding away and no idea 
which files moved over and which didn't, only that it crashed at one 
particular file after some lengthy time.  I hate Windows.


--R

Allan Streib wrote:

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  

i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done



Did anyone ever really *use* them?  I remember a year or two where most
PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know ever using
them.  I do recall many of them being plagued with problems, eating
disks or refusing to eject them, etc.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Loren Faeth



I used not only zip drives but also the syquest EZ135 competing 
technology.  Never any problems.  Zip was really weird on Wintel 
because it was ISA or PCI, but showed up as a scsi device.  On Macs, 
it was just another SCSI device.  I still have a bunch of that stuff 
too, but there is no market, so I will keep it so long as I have old 
Macs with SCSI.


At 01:09 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote:

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done

Did anyone ever really *use* them?  I remember a year or two where most
PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know ever using
them.  I do recall many of them being plagued with problems, eating
disks or refusing to eject them, etc.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Heck yeah! I've got a big stack of them around somewhere. I've got both SCSI 
and USB versions...

On the old 9 Macs (like the Plus though the Color Classic) the SCSI zip drive 
made a dandy hard drive replacement. You still needed something else to boot to 
but once booted the zip worked sweet.

Back in '99 I used Zip drives extensively as the company I worked for didn't 
have good network shares. I also used 'em to haul stuff to work to burn to CD. 
Winzip would allow you to span multiple disks, so 7 zip disks brought 1 cd to 
work...

-Curt

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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done

Did anyone ever really *use* them?  I remember a year or two where most
PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know ever using
them.  I do recall many of them being plagued with problems, eating
disks or refusing to eject them, etc.

Allan
--
1983 300D


  
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Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors

2009-09-08 Thread LWB250
I just remember the click of death problems and how I literally scrapped 
hundreds of them at one time.  We had one on every machine (Macs) in our 
elementary schools.

These were SCSI ones, to give you an idea of how long ago that was...

MacDann

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 2:09 PM
 On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:03 -0400,
 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  i think the days of zip drive are pretty much done
 
 Did anyone ever really *use* them?  I remember a year
 or two where most
 PCs had a Zip drive but I can never recall anyone I know
 ever using
 them.  I do recall many of them being plagued with
 problems, eating
 disks or refusing to eject them, etc.
 
 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 
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