Re: [MBZ] Mini split

2020-12-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
That looks basically like a window unit for one room but with the condenser unit outside and one head unit for inside.  It's probably about 5k BTU which is kinda window unit output.  And if it runs on 110V it ain't gonna do much.  Probably some cheepchinee thing, might work OK for awhile but I

Re: [MBZ] Mini split

2020-12-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I see these weird, off brand mini-splits around here all the time. Cheap as wine, but you have to wonder where they came from and who really made them. I think either Floyd or Mitch have done some digging into brands as to who makes some of them. -D > On Dec 13, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Kaleb

[MBZ] Mini split

2020-12-13 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If I had to I would just coil up any excess line. -D > On Oct 4, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On October 4, 2017 at 5:22 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> That makes sense. I was just trying to

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On October 4, 2017 at 5:22 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > That makes sense. I was just trying to understand where the gas was being > held until it flooded the system. If you 'pump down' a system for disassembly by running it with the liquid line

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
You mean accumulator? Some outdoor units have filter/dryers in them, but receiver/dryers like you might see in a car aren't commonly there. Few A/C units and not all heat pumps have accumulators. Mine (heat pump) has a suction line accumulator in it to keep liquid from entering the compressor

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Well it is all in the unit outside, call it what you want, my guy called it the condenser unit, and that whole unit has the gas tank and controller and fans and compressor and whatever else inside the box.  The indoor head unit just blows out hot or cold whenever you tell it you want hot or

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Bt!The condenser is the coil on the outside of the building. What you mean is that you then open the valve on the receiver (tank). The receiver, compressor, condenser and blower (fan), along with some controls (relay, capacitors, etc) are located outide the building in one covered

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That makes sense. I was just trying to understand where the gas was being held until it flooded the system. Should I choose to do this, I’ll be able to run very short lines. My condenser will be on the other side of the exterior wall from the evaporator at ground level, maybe 6 feet below

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I'm not sure I understand that explanation, so I'll throw in my own. The condenser unit (the outdoor unit) comes filled with gas.  You hook up your lines to the condenser and the head unit(s), there is a tap on the condenser to attach a vacuum to.  So you pull the vacuum which evacuates all

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is sealed in the receiver. This is the way all commercial systems are moved. Close the receiver outlet. Pump the system dry, close the receiver inlet valve. Open and cap the lines. move. reinstall. pull vacuum. open receiver valves. In your case, foe a new one, you only need the last

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If I was to do this, the exterior unit would be right outside where the interior unit would be, so I don’t think I would need anything other than the stock line set. I would need to run a 120 or 240 line over from the distribution panel, which is on the opposite wall. Attic is easily

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On October 3, 2017 at 5:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I”m curious - how are the lines precharged, and how do you pull a vacuum > without releasing the refrigerant? Precharged lines are kind of history now I believe. Anyway, with minisplits it's all

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Dan, you can very easily do this yourself... I've done it many times. I have systems running in our home, the garage, and a few friends house now. You can use an R12 gauge set if you don't have a R-410. (I actually use my R410 set on my R12 cars now). I ended up with a wholesale account at the

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
day, October 03, 2017 6:00 PM > To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC > > Scott will have to come online and tell you what he knows but I will chime > in anyway. > I

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Scott will have to come online and tell you what he knows but I will chime in anyway. I installed AC in my house in about 1984 using a system that came precharged. I hooked up the outside unit to electric power and installed the coil in the furnace plenum and ran the precharged copper pipes

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I”m curious - how are the lines precharged, and how do you pull a vacuum without releasing the refrigerant? I could easily do this myself, as I’ve got all the tools. I see a 12,000 BTU 240VAC split for a little over $600. I can justify that. -D > On Oct 3, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Ritchey

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 00:05:58 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > Last year I installed a 1200 BTU “Pioneer” brand mini-split heat pump in my > barn (to control humidity and prevent freezing). I bought it online from an > outfit called HighSEER.com, in FL, for a

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That would probably be the way to go, though those units are probably not quite as efficient, but if you aren't using it much you probably wouldn't care. --R On 10/3/17 3:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That's an option. I do have a window in the garage I could use. On Oct 3, 2017,

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:57 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC 9k or 12k BTU units for <$1k https://www.acwholesalers.com/Ductless-Air-Conditioner-Wall-Mounted-Air- Conditioners/cat1028.a

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
okiebenz.com> > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC > > What's "won't be that much?" > > -D > > > On Oct 3, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Get

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
nal Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Rich Thomas via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 9:57 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HV

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's an option. I do have a window in the garage I could use. > On Oct 3, 2017, at 3:25 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > Might as well get a window unit and put it into a hole through the wall. > Would be a lot cheaper. Probably 3-400 on sale or less. > > MG > >

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread MG via Mercedes
Might as well get a window unit and put it into a hole through the wall. Would be a lot cheaper. Probably 3-400 on sale or less. MG Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Get a single head unit 12k BTU, won’t be that much --R Sent from iPhone On Oct 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
9k or 12k BTU units for <$1k https://www.acwholesalers.com/Ductless-Air-Conditioner-Wall-Mounted-Air-Conditioners/cat1028.ac?mainCat== You'll need a bit of piping and to run your power, you'll need to pay an AC guy to do the final charging if you want the warranty, or just do it yourself if

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
What's "won't be that much?" -D > On Oct 3, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Get a single head unit 12k BTU, won’t be that much > > --R > Sent from iPhone > >> On Oct 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Get a single head unit 12k BTU, won’t be that much --R Sent from iPhone > On Oct 3, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > > I know these are relatively inexpensive, but I wonder if they can be found > used? It would be great to make my garage habitable for even

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I know these are relatively inexpensive, but I wonder if they can be found used? It would be great to make my garage habitable for even a couple of extra months a year. I just wonder how well it would cope with the heat load of a hot car added in. -D > On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:58 AM, Meade

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I've been thinking about installing one of those in my garage, it would be really nice to drop the humidity down in the summer and also be able to get some work done during the extremes. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Interesting. All built in the same factory I am sure. On Oct 2, 2017 9:06 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" wrote: > Last year I installed a 1200 BTU “Pioneer” brand mini-split heat pump in > my barn (to control humidity and prevent freezing). I bought it online > from an

[MBZ] Mini Split HVAC

2017-10-02 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Last year I installed a 1200 BTU “Pioneer” brand mini-split heat pump in my barn (to control humidity and prevent freezing). I bought it online from an outfit called HighSEER.com, in FL, for a very reasonable price (IMO). We just installed a “Trane” mini-split system in the church kitchen

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-29 Thread Charles Scruggs
I have several of these for about 3 years, very happy with them. A little better on less electric usage than the duct type system. I will use these again! Sent from Dr. Scruggs, Gulf Coast Oral, Facial, and Dental Implant Surgery iPhone. On Dec 28, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-29 Thread Charles Scruggs
My split system does not do hot water, I have a tankless hot water heater and it has been very good. The hot water heater uses natural gas with electric ignition. The split system heat pump AC works on electricity. Both very good choices. Sent from Dr. Scruggs, Gulf Coast Oral, Facial, and

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Charles Scruggs wrote: I have several of these for about 3 years, very happy with them. A little better on less electric usage than the duct type system. I will use these again! Seems like we used to have a lawyer Scruggs on these lists. I believe his his name Darrell. Any relation?

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-28 Thread dseretakis
Ok. Now I know what you guys are talking about. My father installed one years ago in a flat in Athens, Greece where I grew up. It was mounted high up near the ceiling. Compressor was outside on balcony. We used it for AC. Are these that good for heat as well? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27,

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-28 Thread Mitch Haley
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok. Now I know what you guys are talking about. My father installed one years ago in a flat in Athens, Greece where I grew up. It was mounted high up near the ceiling. Compressor was outside on balcony. We used it for AC. Are these that good for heat as well? The

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes some do both. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 28, 2012, at 7:46 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok. Now I know what you guys are talking about. My father installed one years ago in a flat in Athens, Greece where I grew up. It was mounted high up near the ceiling. Compressor was outside

[MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Seems like Rich mentioned mini splits in his new addition. I recently bought Fujitsu's 2nd tier 3/4 ton unit (23 SEER / 11 HSPF) and finally got it installed and operational this afternoon. I hung it in the living room, intending to use it like a small wood stove to make the furnace run less.

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know what that means in BTUs but I calculated my addition at 18k -- big high space with ~800ft2 plus loft ~400ft2 -- on coldest or hottest day. 36k 4-head unit (2 9k and 2 12k) that throttles from I think 11k to max. Should be minimal effort most of the time. --R (sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: I don't know what that means in BTUs but I calculated my addition at 18k -- big high space with ~800ft2 plus loft ~400ft2 -- on coldest or hottest day. 36k 4-head unit (2 9k and 2 12k) that throttles from I think 11k to max. Should be minimal effort most of the time.

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump Seems like Rich mentioned mini splits in his new addition. I recently

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Mountain Man
Does anyone know about water heaters (used overseas) that provide at source hot water at a shower head? Someone recently mentioned it to me - I had never heard of that type of device. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread dseretakis
Does this heater run on electricity or some sort of fuel? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Seems like Rich mentioned mini splits in his new addition. I recently bought Fujitsu's 2nd tier 3/4 ton unit (23 SEER / 11 HSPF) and finally got it

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread clay monroe
On demand water heater. Great for small homes with few demands on concurrent water use. They make about enough to run a shower and the bathroom sink. Some of the larger ones allow you to run a bathroom and use of kitchen sink. If you have two bathrooms, somebody in the kitchen and a washing

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Electric AC and heat pump combined unit or you can just do AC. The outdoor compressor sends the refrigerant (heaterant?) to the indoor head units which are just a small heat exchanger, controller, and fan. Run 2 insulated pipes and a 4-wire power/control bundle between the outdoor and indoor

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Mitch Haley
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does this heater run on electricity or some sort of fuel? Electric air conditioner, running backwards in cold weather. Rich will probably choke when he sees the link (he had some trouble with this particular store a while back)

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Rich Thomas
I ended up buying mine from another FL outfit, excellent service and great price, new units shipped from distributor warehouse in PA or VA or somewhere. The woman who handles orders was very sweet, we had some nice conversations. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Mitch

Re: [MBZ] Mini split ductless heat pump

2012-12-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: http://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-Air-Conditioner-Ductless-Mini-Split-p/70212.htm While I really like this unit, the main reason I have it is I snagged it on a no reserve ebay auction for less than $1000 delivered. Before I'd pay $1375 for Fuji's 2nd best, I'd pay $1509