Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV
I think avoiding computers is just a "I'm afraid of new fangled..." It's not hard to hook up a laptop and look at an ECU. The computers themselves rarely fail and when they do it's often because of damage. Once you've got the computer it's way easier to troubleshoot a lot of things rather than just throwing parts at the problem. Think of the laptop as another wrench... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: They won't be making gasoline cars either, soon enough. EVs are going to be what we get for new cars, like it or not. IDK anything about the newer MB diesels. Some engines are vulnerable to a "black death" issue with the injectors, Dan P. can tell you which ones. I try to avoid cars that have any computers. But that certainly rules out anything after the mid 1980s. Allan Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > My wife is considering a MB diesel SUV. I was surprised to learn that MB is > not making any more diesel cars/SUVs (at least not in USA) anymore. The most > recent I could find was 2016. > > I was just searching MB diesel SUV and found several. They are ML, GLK >(small SUV that looks like a roller skate), GL, and GLE. > > I think the conventional wisdom on newer MB is they are very nice as long as > they under warranty. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with any of > these MB diesel SUV 2011-2015. > > Donald H. Snook > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV
They won't be making gasoline cars either, soon enough. EVs are going to be what we get for new cars, like it or not. IDK anything about the newer MB diesels. Some engines are vulnerable to a "black death" issue with the injectors, Dan P. can tell you which ones. I try to avoid cars that have any computers. But that certainly rules out anything after the mid 1980s. Allan Donald Snook via Mercedes writes: > My wife is considering a MB diesel SUV. I was surprised to learn that MB is > not making any more diesel cars/SUVs (at least not in USA) anymore. The most > recent I could find was 2016. > > I was just searching MB diesel SUV and found several. They are ML, GLK > (small SUV that looks like a roller skate), GL, and GLE. > > I think the conventional wisdom on newer MB is they are very nice as long as > they under warranty. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with any of > these MB diesel SUV 2011-2015. > > Donald H. Snook > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV
My 2014 GLK 250 is anything but a roller skate and has plenty of carrying capacity. There is a 350 Bluetec SUV that is more massive and IMO inferior in handling and fuel economy to its economical cousin. On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 12:19 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Bought my then-wife a 164 ML350 dizzel, I forget the year now, 2014 maybe > ? It was a CPO off lease, 20ksome miles. It was loads of fun, massive > torque. She’s still driving it and no problems far as I know. I liked it > well enough the few times I drove it. I think it was getting high 20s for > fuel mileage. > > Test drove a GL350 at the same time and it was noticeably less quick but > ok. I liked it well enough but it was too big for her needs and abilities. > > The newer dizzels require the blue pee juice which is not a big issue but > another thing to deal with. > > The ML seems a reasonable size for most needs and is quite capable unless > you need to haul a family or a lot of stuff. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > My wife is considering a MB diesel SUV. I was surprised to learn that > MB is not making any more diesel cars/SUVs (at least not in USA) anymore. > The most recent I could find was 2016. > > > > I was just searching MB diesel SUV and found several. They are ML, GLK > (small SUV that looks like a roller skate), GL, and GLE. > > > > I think the conventional wisdom on newer MB is they are very nice as > long as they under warranty. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with > any of these MB diesel SUV 2011-2015. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV
Bought my then-wife a 164 ML350 dizzel, I forget the year now, 2014 maybe ? It was a CPO off lease, 20ksome miles. It was loads of fun, massive torque. She’s still driving it and no problems far as I know. I liked it well enough the few times I drove it. I think it was getting high 20s for fuel mileage. Test drove a GL350 at the same time and it was noticeably less quick but ok. I liked it well enough but it was too big for her needs and abilities. The newer dizzels require the blue pee juice which is not a big issue but another thing to deal with. The ML seems a reasonable size for most needs and is quite capable unless you need to haul a family or a lot of stuff. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > My wife is considering a MB diesel SUV. I was surprised to learn that MB is > not making any more diesel cars/SUVs (at least not in USA) anymore. The most > recent I could find was 2016. > > I was just searching MB diesel SUV and found several. They are ML, GLK (small > SUV that looks like a roller skate), GL, and GLE. > > I think the conventional wisdom on newer MB is they are very nice as long as > they under warranty. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with any of > these MB diesel SUV 2011-2015. > > Donald H. Snook > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Newer Diesel MB SUV
My wife is considering a MB diesel SUV. I was surprised to learn that MB is not making any more diesel cars/SUVs (at least not in USA) anymore. The most recent I could find was 2016. I was just searching MB diesel SUV and found several. They are ML, GLK (small SUV that looks like a roller skate), GL, and GLE. I think the conventional wisdom on newer MB is they are very nice as long as they under warranty. I’m wondering if anyone has experience with any of these MB diesel SUV 2011-2015. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com