Christopher Kueny wrote:
Before you talk about him disrespecting the flag, show us one really good
example that you can prove, not a clip off FOX 'News'.
Here's one that got my attention, when I heard his North Carolina victory
speech. Was his father's coffin in Kenya draped in a USA flag, or
Oh no. Did you get caught up in the lapel-pin thing? Or the mass
email that says this or that (swore in on the Koran, won't respect the
flag)? Did you ever get the follow up that says Oops, my bad, it was
all a lie.
A lot of folks had to send that one out after forwarding the 'Barak
Rich wrote:
Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records.
Oh, Sorry. I thought you were talking about President Bush.
Donald H. Snook
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If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to
talk about the draft. Your future (life) was never in the balance.
Don
High School Class of '70
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think I even noticed Vietnam until the '72
Wonko the Sane wrote:
If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to
talk about the draft.
That's like saying that if I've never been sentenced to death, I have
no standing to talk about capital punishment.
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No. That is saying that if you didn't wonder on high school graduation
night how many of your classmates (who didn't have the resources or grades
to get into college) would be dead within a year in a jungle half a world
away you don't really live it.
Some of my peers died in that jungle.
Amen. That should shut him up.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. That is saying that if you didn't wonder on high school graduation
night how many of your classmates (who didn't have the resources or grades
to get into college) would be dead within
I don't recall the word honorable ever being used to describe Bush's
tenure in the National Guard. He clearly used his family connections as a
means to avoid the draft and a combat stint in 'Nam. It would have been
nice to hear him admit this instead of accepting the BS that his handlers
came up
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded,
and received a medal for his actions.
It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics
by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with.
I don't care as much about the
What did you do in your own shoes, Mitch?
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded,
and received a medal for his actions.
It was his actions after he came home and
Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers,
though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service.
--R
Mitch Haley wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded,
and received a medal
andrew strasfogel wrote:
What did you do in your own shoes, Mitch?
I don't think I even noticed Vietnam until the '72 election cycle. I was
born a couple of weeks after JFK died. The assassination hit my mother pretty
hard, I was almost born early that day.
When I was 18, it was my belief
Rich Thomas wrote:
Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though
he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service.
WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from
the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973.
Mitch Haley wrote:
I've since realized that a draft is not legitimate unless the Thirteenth
Amendment is repealed, so if our nation is in danger, I'll volunteer. If not,
forget it.
Not only are you wrong, but you have been wrong for quite some time. This is an
old issue. The Supreme Court
Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records.
--R
Donald Snook wrote:
Rich Thomas wrote:
Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers,
though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service.
WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including
Donald Snook wrote:
WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge
from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973.
Oh, I thought Rich was asking about JFK (JohnForbesKerry, not
JohnFitzgeraldKennedy). Seems like after Kerry came stateside,
he got some
The Supreme Court's opinions leave no doubt of the constitutional validity
of the act.
The issuance of a SCOTUS opinion does not automatically remove all doubt on
this or any other topic. How many times has the Supreme Court overturned
itself? Just think of all the wrongheaded racial decisions
So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the
flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding
service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war
that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention
claiming
andrew strasfogel wrote:
So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the
flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding
service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war
that will demand our presence for another 100
Or all of the above.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the
flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding
service in the armed
I expected to be flamed, not that I mind...
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or all of the above.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly
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So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the
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Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US
Military. The information
presented (and partly created
LarryT wrote:
Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US
Military. The information
presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be
totally fabricated. D Rather
retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation
for
I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good
folks lost their lives for it!
Pete
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Since Kaleb has decided to lift the restriction on politics, I figured Id
fire first.
Yup. Me neither.
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I will not vote for a man who
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too
many good folks lost their lives for it!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect
for treating the American public like
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too
many good folks lost their lives for it!
http
Tom Hargrave wrote:
In other words, I believe Obama to be a decent, respectable man. I just
can't vote for him. Our political and economic views are too different.
I think he's a man who will do anything to win. (AKA a politician)
I also disagree with his political views, as I do with the
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On Behalf Of John Robbins
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too
many good folks lost
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too
many good folks lost their lives for it!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
IMHO, I still think he respects
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
well if his preacher is way out in left field, and he is supposedly not,
then why would he continue to go to a church that he does not agree with
the minister? And why would a minister be talking about such things
like that at church anyway, what does it have
I agree!
I don't tell my Black friends either.
Or my white friends.
Neither my Gay friends.
Family would be digusted.
Church group offended
As a matter of fact, I try not to think of it myself
Pete
dave walton wrote:
That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately,
I don't mean to chastise anyone, that's just the way it is here.
Nothing wrong with it. I don't talk about gay rights at my nephew's
boy scout meetings (he has 2 mommies), and I don't talk about my
belief in the right to bear arm's on the Oberlin forum. That's life.
-Dave Walton
On Thu, Apr 3,
But it's ethically diverse!
--R
dave walton wrote:
That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately, the
tone of Banned leaks over to this list enough that anyone ethnically
diverse has disappeared. I can't in good faith recommend this list to
any of my black friends. But I'll
dave walton wrote:
I can't in good faith recommend this list to
any of my black friends.
I'm trying to figure out what was said that would offend.
I seem to recall some talk of immigrants, and what vehicles
get exported to Mexico, but can't remember much else. I might
call a certain politian
We have black people here, we do not have a problem with them.
dave walton wrote:
That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately, the
tone of Banned leaks over to this list enough that anyone ethnically
diverse has disappeared. I can't in good faith recommend this list to
any
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