Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Let me suggest a cordless one. Great for taking to the junk yard to remove those things where the bolts are too rusted. Around here they won't let you bring in a torch but I don't think they object to the saws. Randy On 10/03/2014 5:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Really thinking about that reciprocating saw, I've needed one several times in the past... On March 10, 2014 9:38:19 AM EDT, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought one of those 2-3 years ago when my other good one stripped the drive gear, and surprisingly and amazingly it has taken a lot of abuse and has worked well. Go figure. For $20 it is basically disposable, but this one has held up well. --R On 3/9/14 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
I would like to suggest, from experience, the Harbor Fright, made by the lowest bidder in China, metal cutting saw blades are absolute crap. If you wish to have success in cutting metal, spend the extra for good quality bi-metal cutting blades. You will be glad you did. The disposable saw however, seems to be worth the money, plus, Harbor Fright now has a warranty they stand behind nicely. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Let me suggest a cordless one. Great for taking to the junk yard to remove those things where the bolts are too rusted. Around here they won't let you bring in a torch but I don't think they object to the saws. Randy On 10/03/2014 5:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Really thinking about that reciprocating saw, I've needed one several times in the past... On March 10, 2014 9:38:19 AM EDT, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@ constructivity.net wrote: I bought one of those 2-3 years ago when my other good one stripped the drive gear, and surprisingly and amazingly it has taken a lot of abuse and has worked well. Go figure. For $20 it is basically disposable, but this one has held up well. --R On 3/9/14 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with- rotating-handle-65570.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:09 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest, from experience, the Harbor Fright, made by the lowest bidder in China, metal cutting saw blades are absolute crap. If you wish to have success in cutting metal, spend the extra for good quality bi-metal cutting blades. You will be glad you did. My experience matches this! -- OK Don There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
I bought one of those 2-3 years ago when my other good one stripped the drive gear, and surprisingly and amazingly it has taken a lot of abuse and has worked well. Go figure. For $20 it is basically disposable, but this one has held up well. --R On 3/9/14 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Max Dillon wrote: Thanks for the idea, my jig saw is currently out of commission, but your correct that it would be a much cleaner and controlled cut. Have to see about repairing that saw... On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Really thinking about that reciprocating saw, I've needed one several times in the past... On March 10, 2014 9:38:19 AM EDT, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought one of those 2-3 years ago when my other good one stripped the drive gear, and surprisingly and amazingly it has taken a lot of abuse and has worked well. Go figure. For $20 it is basically disposable, but this one has held up well. --R On 3/9/14 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Price went up to $25.99; still not bad. Gerry On 3/10/2014 6:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Really thinking about that reciprocating saw, I've needed one several times in the past... On March 10, 2014 9:38:19 AM EDT, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought one of those 2-3 years ago when my other good one stripped the drive gear, and surprisingly and amazingly it has taken a lot of abuse and has worked well. Go figure. For $20 it is basically disposable, but this one has held up well. --R On 3/9/14 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
$20 with coupon until 3/16 http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiNTIyNzU5NzMiLCJza3UiOiI2NTU3MCIsImlzIjoiMTkuOTkiLCJwcm9kdWN0X2lk%0D%0AIjoiMTY0MSJ9%0D%0Autm_medium=emailutm_campaign=1014cutm_source=1030 --R On 3/10/14 7:29 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Price went up to $25.99; still not bad. Gerry On 3/10/2014 6:41 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Really thinking about that reciprocating saw, I've needed one several times in the past... On March 10, 2014 9:38:19 AM EDT, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought one of those 2-3 years ago when my other good one stripped the drive gear, and surprisingly and amazingly it has taken a lot of abuse and has worked well. Go figure. For $20 it is basically disposable, but this one has held up well. --R On 3/9/14 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Max Dillon wrote: Really thinking about that reciprocating saw, I've needed one several times in the past... Up $6 since this weekend. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Max Dillon wrote: Thanks for the idea, my jig saw is currently out of commission, but your correct that it would be a much cleaner and controlled cut. Have to see about repairing that saw... On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with-rotating-handle-65570.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
I bought one of those when I had to replace a muffler under a '92 300E. I worked great, and continues to do so years later. It's well worth the $20. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: On sale for $20: http://www.harborfreight.com/6-amp-reciprocating-saw-with- rotating-handle-65570.html -- OK Don There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Randy, Craig; Yes, trough-like is the plan so the head will lay flat Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 336k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:45:36 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Very good. Second thought was, which way is he going to cut it? IE - like one would to make a big bbq like trough or crossways to make something like 2 big pails? I was thinking the big BBQ-like trough would give more visibility to each section of the head. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Paint, latex based. Good idea to check that... On March 5, 2014 11:28:40 AM EST, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: First thought I had was what used to be in the barrel? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
First thought I had was what used to be in the barrel? Hopefully, nothing that might cause a big boom when you start cutting with whatever tool. Randy On 04/03/2014 8:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote: My first thought was Plasma torch! But I don't have a buddy who owns one and can't justify purchasing or building one... On March 4, 2014 9:05:08 PM EST, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Never bring a grinder to an acetylene fight. Think about how much more fun it would be to _burn_ the barrel in half! Also good for soldering, brazing, welding... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Very good. Second thought was, which way is he going to cut it? IE - like one would to make a big bbq like trough or crossways to make something like 2 big pails? Randy On 05/03/2014 10:33 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Paint, latex based. Good idea to check that... On March 5, 2014 11:28:40 AM EST, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: First thought I had was what used to be in the barrel? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
I passed on a torch set last summer and I've been kicking myself ever since. It was at a yard sale and cheap money but I'd have to run to the ATM and back. I did pick up a nice torque wrench but theres not much more fun you can have with your clothes on than cutting with a torch. -Curt Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:05:08 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test Message-ID: 93b96fa4-a40a-11e3-8f4f-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Need to get over the Hazard Fraught to buy a grinder and some cut-off wheels, and a set of safety goggles, and cut up a barrel... Never bring a grinder to an acetylene fight. Think about how much more fun it would be to _burn_ the barrel in half! Also good for soldering, brazing, welding... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
On 05/03/2014 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I passed on a torch set last summer and I've been kicking myself ever since. It was at a yard sale and cheap money but I'd have to run to the ATM and back. I did pick up a nice torque wrench but theres not much more fun you can have with your clothes on than cutting with a torch. -Curt I got a set last summer but the Ox tank is empty and I have not had it filled yet (or swapped - whatever they do here). Will have to do so once the weather warms a bit. Both tanks, gauges etc on a roller cart. Only the cutting torch though. No welding tips but that should not be hard to rectify. The smaller tanks - two foot high or so. Owned tanks though so no rental cost. I have rarely played with such a thing. My father had a set when I was younger and silly me let them be sold after he died. He owned the Ac tank - the bigger one but they would not sell the bigger Ox tank so it was leased. Should have kept the set. Randy who is sitting in partially in the dark as something is going bad in the light fixure overhead. It is arcing and blinking and I have shut the lights off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I probably don't really need a torch, a friend has one he'll let me use all I want if I fill the tanks... -Curt Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2014 11:45:34 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test Message-ID: 531762be.1040...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 05/03/2014 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I passed on a torch set last summer and I've been kicking myself ever since. It was at a yard sale and cheap money but I'd have to run to the ATM and back. I did pick up a nice torque wrench but theres not much more fun you can have with your clothes on than cutting with a torch. -Curt I got a set last summer but the Ox tank is empty and I have not had it filled yet (or swapped - whatever they do here). Will have to do so once the weather warms a bit. Both tanks, gauges etc on a roller cart. Only the cutting torch though. No welding tips but that should not be hard to rectify. The smaller tanks - two foot high or so. Owned tanks though so no rental cost. I have rarely played with such a thing. My father had a set when I was younger and silly me let them be sold after he died. He owned the Ac tank - the bigger one but they would not sell the bigger Ox tank so it was leased. Should have kept the set. Randy who is sitting in partially in the dark as something is going bad in the light fixure overhead. It is arcing and blinking and I have shut the lights off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 10:45:36 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Very good. Second thought was, which way is he going to cut it? IE - like one would to make a big bbq like trough or crossways to make something like 2 big pails? I was thinking the big BBQ-like trough would give more visibility to each section of the head. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
So my plan is to cut a barrel in half and borrow a propane burner from a friend, and use that to make an immersion tank that I can heat to 80 Deg C or more. Need to get over the Hazard Fraught to buy a grinder and some cut-off wheels, and a set of safety goggles, and cut up a barrel that has been rusting away under my back porch. I'm going to make some rubber rings from old inner tube to put under each exhaust valve, so the spring will hold the valve/rubber/seat sandwhich to make an air-tight seal. Air might leak from the exhaust manifold/head joint, may have to use some sealant of some kind there if it does leak. Next rig a shrader valve to the end of the exhaust manifold, and pressurize with 15 lbs, then dunk the whole thing into the hot tank and see if I get any air passing from the exhaust side and then out of the cooling passages. What are the odds that there is a crack in a pre-chamber which is allowing exhaust gas to get into the cooling passages? Thanks, Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:30:44 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: So my plan is to cut a barrel in half and borrow a propane burner from a friend, and use that to make an immersion tank that I can heat to 80 Deg C or more. Need to get over the Hazard Fraught to buy a grinder and some cut-off wheels, and a set of safety goggles, and cut up a barrel that has been rusting away under my back porch. Don't forget ear plugs... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Suggest instead, you scribe a line on the barrel and use a jig saw with metal cutting blades. The barrel is at best 18 gage sheet metal so the blade will cut it quickly and easily. Let the saw do the work and don't crowd the blade, they will last much longer. If you have a sawsal same result. To start the cut, drill a hole [in the scrap side of the cut] that will allow entry of the blade. Much more controlled than abrasive grinder cut, less mess, and less risk to injury.. Wipe the edges with a file after to cure any sharp bits that will eat you in use of the new 1/2 barrel.. To hold the barrel steady while cutting use a piece of 2x4 under each side which keeps it from rolling away from you while cutting. To scribe the cut line.. set the barrel upright and use a piece of cardboard the height you want your new barrel, about 12 inches across.. hold it against the barrel and walk it around while making a mark with a sharpie. HTH, Grant... On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:30:44 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: So my plan is to cut a barrel in half and borrow a propane burner from a friend, and use that to make an immersion tank that I can heat to 80 Deg C or more. Need to get over the Hazard Fraught to buy a grinder and some cut-off wheels, and a set of safety goggles, and cut up a barrel that has been rusting away under my back porch. Don't forget ear plugs... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Thanks for the idea, my jig saw is currently out of commission, but your correct that it would be a much cleaner and controlled cut. Have to see about repairing that saw... On March 4, 2014 1:55:26 PM EST, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Suggest instead, you scribe a line on the barrel and use a jig saw with metal cutting blades. The barrel is at best 18 gage sheet metal so the blade will cut it quickly and easily. Let the saw do the work and don't crowd the blade, they will last much longer. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
Need to get over the Hazard Fraught to buy a grinder and some cut-off wheels, and a set of safety goggles, and cut up a barrel... Never bring a grinder to an acetylene fight. Think about how much more fun it would be to _burn_ the barrel in half! Also good for soldering, brazing, welding... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 head immersion test
My first thought was Plasma torch! But I don't have a buddy who owns one and can't justify purchasing or building one... On March 4, 2014 9:05:08 PM EST, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Never bring a grinder to an acetylene fight. Think about how much more fun it would be to _burn_ the barrel in half! Also good for soldering, brazing, welding... -- Jim -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
