Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble
An equalizer can be helpful but most audiophiles do not use them. If your system is set up properly there really should be no need for one. If you have a boomy room or flat room then it can help. I'm into stupidly expensive gear and do not use them. With my live sound gear I used one because the rooms were always different but I used a real time auto EQ so it was no problem. Listening to mp3s, the EQ can make a big difference because of rubbish sound from mp3s. If your ear doesn't hear any difference then you don't need to worry. The last thing an audiophile wants is another connection and circuit in the sound chain. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble
Kaleb wrote: OK, I assume that a equalizer is better than just bass and treble adjustments. This could be as bad as an oil thread Anyway, it's better only in that there are more. With bass and treble, the entire range of frequencies are typically divided into thirds. The bass knob controls the volume of the bass frequencies. The treble knob controls the volume of the high frequencies. The middle has no direct control. Meaning if you want more mid, turn down the bass and treble and turn up the Volume. *smile* Any tips, pointers, thoughts etc. The most common equalizer is called a graphic. It has a knob or slider for each of the slices the sound has been sliced into. So now you have not just bass and treble - but super-bass, low-bass, bass, upper-bass, lower-mid, mid, upper-mid, lower-treble, treble, upper-treble, super-treble. That would be called an 11-band EQ. I've seen anything from 2-band to 62-band. A more powerful, but less intuitive EQ is called parametric. This is usually not sliders, only knobs. Each band, instead of being stuck on only one frequency like a graphic, has adjustable frequency, adjustable width, and adjustable amount. There aren't very many equalizer hardware boxes that are parametric - but in software it's not uncommon, especially in the pro market. Attached is a graphic that shows the various frequencies, where some musical instruments fit in, what frequency range common radio and telephone use, and where speech sounds fit. There is no right or wrong setting anymore than for the seat in a car. Set it so it's comfortable for you. Small speakers usually are lacking in bass, but because there are physics limitations, just turning up the bass doesn't always help. High frequency is much more easily absorbed. So if you have your speakers behind the curtains, not a lot of high frequency sound will get out. Conversely, bass can readily pass through walls. Human ears are quite sensitive to the midrange, like 500 Hz to 2 kHz. --Philip, with pro audio experience -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: freq-chart-plus.png Type: image/png Size: 50220 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090202/447c6b8b/attachment.png ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble
That is a cool chart - thanks for sending it. Attached is a graphic that shows the various frequencies, where some musical instruments fit in, what frequency range common radio and telephone use, and where speech sounds fit. -- OK Don with a parametric mid range and fixed, though knobbed, high and low on the Tascam 644 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090202/94ca1667/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble
Fmiser wrote: Attached is a graphic that shows the various frequencies, where some musical instruments fit in, what frequency range common radio and telephone use, and where speech sounds fit. OK wrote: That is a cool chart - thanks for sending it. I built that for pro AV training I sometimes do. Glad you like it. *smile* --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble
OK, I assume that a equalizer is better than just bass and treble adjustments. I have never been able to quite figure out how to adjust an equalizer though. Seems I always have to play with it the whole time a song is going, then the next song seems it needs another adjustment. I was just sitting here listening to some songs on the computer and playing with its equalizer and thought of this question that I have often wondered about. In fact, on my home stereo surround sound, I dont even have the equalizer hooked up anymore for regular non-surround stuff. Any tips, pointers, thoughts etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble
At 6:08 PM -0600 2/1/09, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, I assume that a equalizer is better than just bass and treble adjustments. I have never been able to quite figure out how to adjust an equalizer though. Seems I always have to play with it the whole time a song is going, then the next song seems it needs another adjustment. I was just sitting here listening to some songs on the computer and playing with its equalizer and thought of this question that I have often wondered about. In fact, on my home stereo surround sound, I dont even have the equalizer hooked up anymore for regular non-surround stuff. Any tips, pointers, thoughts etc. Basic idea with an EQ is to tailor the sound to a particular room, speaker set, etc.Quick and dirty method: Find a reference recording of some sort (say, in your case, a Bert Kaempfert CD). Start it going with the EQ flat and listen to the sound. If it sounds muddy, boost the higher frequency sliders. If it sounds tinny, boost the lower frequency sliders. If it sounds flat, boost the midrange a bit. Once you've found the sweet spot, leave it there; that'll be about as good as you're likely to get. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
