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And in typical fashion, the fake news media took the 100% positive test results to loudly proclaim the sky is falling and the end is near.  These deceptive news reports are very sensational and drive up ratings with certain segments and thus increase revenue from ad sales, while simultaneously a

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It would appear that one possible reason for Florida test centers reporting 100% positive tests is that they only thought they had to report positive tests. Realistically most people, especially a couple months ago, only cared about the number of positive tests each day. Of course that doesn't

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Around here they are saying that false negatives are a thing, but false positives are almost zero. That's very convenient for the lockdown enthusiasts. Yet we have heard about the testing centers in Florida that reported 100% positive tests. Like so much about this situation, who knows what to bel

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Small cruise ship had to turn around because of false positives. Alaska is seeing a large number of inaccurate test results. Science is not up to the standards required to effectively handle the plague. https://www.ktoo.org/2020/08/12/uncruise-says-wilderness-adventurer-did-not-have-covid-19-o

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The clips in your link threw me off, the original movie was black and white. I've got a copy of it somewhere. The original is not a musical, it did have a dentist scene though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAli9a8bbys -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:45:04 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Me

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> And I had no idea the 1986 version was a remake. > https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054033/ Sort of. The remake was a musical, the original was not. Jack Nicholson's first (small) movie role. The musical was first a stage show, sort of like the Rocky Horror

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On Thu, August 13, 2020 7:29 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I don't think I've ever seen the whole thing. Might have to fix that. I saw it, or most of it, 30 years ago but don't remember the dentist. And I had no idea the 1986 version was a remake. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054033/ _

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I don't think I've ever seen the whole thing. Might have to fix that. -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:27:53 PM EDT, Jim Cathey wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM I had forgotten about Steve Martin doing this song... Tasty little movie.  And, as over-the-top as M

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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM > > I had forgotten about Steve Martin doing this song... Tasty little movie. And, as over-the-top as Martin's sadistic dentist may be, he's still completely upstaged by Bill Murray's masochistic dental p

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM I had forgotten about Steve Martin doing this song... -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:04:14 PM EDT, Jim Cathey wrote: > Maybe out of work dentists... She said "My boy, I think some day You'll find a way to make your natural tendencies

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> Maybe out of work dentists... She said "My boy, I think some day You'll find a way to make your natural tendencies pay" -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options g

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Maybe out of work dentists... -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 1:41:52 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: *This is uncomfortable, so it is often not performed aggressively enough to get a good sample.* At last  -  profession tailor made for sadists On Thu, Aug 13, 2020

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*This is uncomfortable, so it is often not performed aggressively enough to get a good sample.* At last - profession tailor made for sadists On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:31 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Polymerase chain reaction. > > The swab can get gunked up

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Polymerase chain reaction. The swab can get gunked up or not make contact with the infected epithelium. It has to go way in the back of your nose where it joins your throat. This is uncomfortable, so it is often not performed aggressively enough to get a good sample. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 8:55 AM

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On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 08:41:15 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal > seab, die to technique. False positives are rare. Karl, Is that supposed to be "with the current PCR nasopharyngeal swab, due to technique" ? What d

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It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal seab, die to technique. False positives are rare. On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 9:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Neither appeals particularly, with false negative you expose others, with > false posit

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Being so close to the former USSR, I am expecting AK will be using Putin’s new jab. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On Aug 12, 2020, at 8:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Cheap, frequent COVID tests could be ‘akin to vaccine,’ professor says. > > "H

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I see a basic problem with their premise that we have no other choices other than test, vaccine, or lockdown isolation. They didn't even consider the Swedish model of protecting the most vulnerable and letting the rest of the population achieve herd immunity as the virus runs its course.  Far l

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Neither appeals particularly, with false negative you expose others, with false positive you're stuck in quarantine for 2 weeks without the benefit of at least hopefully getting anti-bodies. -Curt On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:37:13 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I've booked my

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I've booked my flight to Moscow already. NOT. I wonder if the inaccuracy of the cheap daily means false ++ or false -- results. It makes a huge difference. On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Its not the stupidest idea I've seen for sure

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Its not the stupidest idea I've seen for sure but IIRC the cheap/fast tests right now are only like 80% accurate. I guess its better than nothing but not by a lot. Even if it were, say $1/test that would be a big cost for a school with hundreds of students to test on a daily basis. I'm nervous

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Cheap, frequent COVID tests could be ‘akin to vaccine,’ professor says. "Harvard epidemiologist and expert in disease testing is calling for a shift in strategy toward a cheap, daily, do-it-yourself test that he says can be as effective as a vaccine at interrupting coronavirus transmission — and i