Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-07 Thread clay via Mercedes
These solutions end up being a complete mess a bunch of the time.   Kids are 
much smarter than humans and will find a way to bypass your lock downs.  They 
hack it or find some other way to get what they want.  Then the adults will 
want to access sites that are not "appropriate" according to the nanny ware.  
So you get lots of requests for exceptions or ranting about how stupid this 
whole interweb thing is.

The most solid way to lock it down is hardware/firewall.  You have to 
explicitly delineate the only accepted sites that can be visited.  Then you 
will need to lock the hardware in an unaccessible closet, so critters can not 
get at it to fiddle with it.  




clay 

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On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

> On 05/03/2015 3:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
>> for Wi-Fi at out church.  .  Our church decided to install
>> internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
>> to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
>> folks. 
>> Scott
>> 
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> 
> H ...how about inappropriate use by the priest???
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
 March 6-7 - National Day of Unplugging

Just pretend that it is National Day of Unplugging when youngsters are there.
There is no way to accomplish blocking without some serious flaws.
Responsibility is the need.  Cultivate that and be happy.  Things
happen.  Don't try to play fedgov in control.  There are always hacks
and hackers.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-06 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mar 5, 2015 4:49 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
> to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the
young
> folks.  A little Google searching turned up SkyDog (no longer available),
> BUC Tools box or router (looks promising),  iBoss router, and several
> Linksys routers that have parental controls.

I wouldn't use the embedded "parental controls" on a consumer router.  Just
bias.

For your situation I'd suggest something like openDNS for content
filtering, but it is really easy to bypass when used alone.  If you set up
your router to filter all other DNS requests, though, you're getting into
real geek territory to bypass.

A quick search found someone using DD-WRT to do this.  Can't vouch for the
source but it looks about right:
http://www.4thinker.com/parental-control.html

DD-WRT also has the advantage of being able to configure a captive portal
and welcome page, so you can easily block abusive users and make your use
expectations clear. (That said I use a chromecast in my Sunday School class
and that wouldn't work on a captive portal, though it would work fine on a
separate secure SSID.)

Lastly, I'd be remiss if I didn't remind you to come up with a plan for
staff to exempt them from the blocks.  Some day it will happen that the
association of evangelicals, or something important anyway, will be blocked
at 9pm Saturday, and you don't want to be the one man with the key.  If
you're using DD-WRT throughout that could be as simple as a second SSID, or
if you only have one at the head you could probably configure a captive
portal login for important users.

Feel free to contact off list if you have specific questions, or I'm not
answering on list. :)

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-06 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
My NetGear has Parental controls also.   Like you, our kids are also 
gone so I don't use the parental controls but I know they're there.


When I 1st saw your email and came to "Parental Controls' my 1st thought 
was you were dealing with some unruly parents! ;-)


So far my netGear N450  has been perfect - but you may want the N600  model.

Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D



On 3/5/2015 4:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
for Wi-Fi at out church.  My kids left home before the advent of the
internet so I never had to deal with this.  Our church decided to install
internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
folks.  A little Google searching turned up SkyDog (no longer available),
BUC Tools box or router (looks promising),  iBoss router, and several
Linksys routers that have parental controls.

Having zero first-hand experience (and knowing the vast and deep pool of
arcane expertise available on this list) I thought I'd solicit experience or
expertise on this subject.  Thanks.

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Scott wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or
> inline box) for Wi-Fi at out church.

What capability are you looking for?  On/off at set times each
day?  Content blocking of "unsafe" sites?  White list of approved
sites?  Service filtering (no torrent, skype, FTP, etc)?
Username/password logon?

Dansguardian is the software I use for browser content filtering.
It could be setup for a wifi hotspot, but I don't think it comes
installed on any routers.

--  Philip, asking more questions than answering.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 05/03/2015 3:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
for Wi-Fi at out church.  .  Our church decided to install
internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
folks. 
Scott

__


H ...how about inappropriate use by the priest???

RB

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[MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

2015-03-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
for Wi-Fi at out church.  My kids left home before the advent of the
internet so I never had to deal with this.  Our church decided to install
internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
folks.  A little Google searching turned up SkyDog (no longer available),
BUC Tools box or router (looks promising),  iBoss router, and several
Linksys routers that have parental controls.  

Having zero first-hand experience (and knowing the vast and deep pool of
arcane expertise available on this list) I thought I'd solicit experience or
expertise on this subject.  Thanks.

Scott

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