Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
Not true in Chitkagoh.  Stay at any stop light controlled 
intersection during peak traffic times and you will see 2-6 cars go 
through or finish going through the intersection after the light is 
red nearly every light cycle.  I've seen more intersection accidents 
here with amber light times twice or triple what they are elsewhere 
because people insist that they can go through the light during and 
after the amber sequence.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)


The place you refer to has been outside civilization for over a 
hunnert years. 
procressive/union/D/capone/daily/comnunist/marxlist/rohm...  Its all 
about corruption. How many murders/year?  Its all  about me.  If I 
want it I should get it. If you won't give it, I will take it.   Why 
should driving/lights be any different?  There is a reason why leos 
refer to them as FIBs.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread John Reames
As this is really off-topic, I don't feel too ashamed in saying that maybe they 
should ban sports equipment (and perhaps dis-arm black belts?)

Although a lacrosse stick didn't do much for a Loyola player at the Saturday 
Hopkins-Loyola game in Baltimore: 
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1626290-johns-hopkins-lacrosse-player-lays-a-stick-shattering-hit-against-loyola

Or the YouTube video itself is at http://youtu.be/NrnHUpR501I (you can skip to 
0:08)

I think my shoulder has sympathy pain!

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On May 3, 2013, at 7:56, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not true in Chitkagoh.  Stay at any stop light controlled intersection 
 during peak traffic times and you will see 2-6 cars go through or finish 
 going through the intersection after the light is red nearly every light 
 cycle.  I've seen more intersection accidents here with amber light times 
 twice or triple what they are elsewhere because people insist that they can 
 go through the light during and after the amber sequence.
 
 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)
 
 The place you refer to has been outside civilization for over a hunnert 
 years. procressive/union/D/capone/daily/comnunist/marxlist/rohm...  Its all 
 about corruption. How many murders/year?  Its all  about me.  If I want it I 
 should get it. If you won't give it, I will take it.   Why should 
 driving/lights be any different?  There is a reason why leos refer to them as 
 FIBs.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Those things sometimes snap quite easily.  One of my son's teammates had 
a titanium shaft break into three pieces when he checked another 
player.  Not cheap, but kinda brittle.


--R


On 5/3/13 8:58 AM, John Reames wrote:

As this is really off-topic, I don't feel too ashamed in saying that maybe they 
should ban sports equipment (and perhaps dis-arm black belts?)

Although a lacrosse stick didn't do much for a Loyola player at the Saturday 
Hopkins-Loyola game in 
Baltimore:http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1626290-johns-hopkins-lacrosse-player-lays-a-stick-shattering-hit-against-loyola

Or the YouTube video itself is athttp://youtu.be/NrnHUpR501I  (you can skip to 
0:08)

I think my shoulder has sympathy pain!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Dieselhead
As this is really off-topic, I don't feel too ashamed in saying that 
maybe they should ban sports equipment (and perhaps dis-arm black 
belts?)


How may people have union thugs beat with baseball bats?

along with hammers, machetes, and the stuff already listed, We should 
ban Baseball bats, Lacross and hockey sticks, the game of hockey etc.


Then there are bricks.

Oh, and we must not forget to ban nail guns,  Those do serious damage too.

But perhaps the most dangerous weapon is bathtubs.

Andrew, can you get your guys on banning all this stuff?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Frederick Moir
3
 
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Diesel preferred.



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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] 
and registering owners
 

Victimless and non-violent crime, I am having a hard time with that one.

I don't think gators have taste neurons, their brain is about the size 
of a golf ball, which allows them to do 2 main things.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Max
Eat, swim, reproduce?

Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

3
 
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Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND
GATORS] and registering owners
 

Victimless and non-violent crime, I am having a hard time with that
one.

I don't think gators have taste neurons, their brain is about the
size 
of a golf ball, which allows them to do 2 main things.

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Eat, eliminate and reproduce. Basics.
 
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Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND  GATORS] 
and registering owners
 

Eat, swim, reproduce?

Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

3

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-03 Thread Max
And that has worked for millions of years...

Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

Eat, eliminate and reproduce. Basics.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES
ANDGATORS] and registering owners
 

Eat, swim, reproduce?

Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:

3

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Rich Thomas

Just in today's murder and mayhem report.

This one goes for the hammer, although he threatened a gun
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509862/1005/police-report-north-charleston-man-bashed-table-threatened-to-kill-woman-with-hammer

This one goes for the machete
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509822/1177/north-charleston-man-jailed-in-machete-attack-police-said

This one goes for the gators
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130501/PC16/130509937/1006/suspect-in-woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-alligators

There were also various assorted gun shootings but nothing too unusual.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Hey Rich, about posting some crime reports that are both victimless and
nonviolent for a change?  As for the third example, has anyone ascertained
whether we taste like chicken or pork to a gator?

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Just in today's murder and mayhem report.

 This one goes for the hammer, although he threatened a gun
 http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130502/PC16/**
 130509862/1005/police-report-**north-charleston-man-bashed-**
 table-threatened-to-kill-**woman-with-hammerhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509862/1005/police-report-north-charleston-man-bashed-table-threatened-to-kill-woman-with-hammer

 This one goes for the machete
 http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130502/PC16/**
 130509822/1177/north-**charleston-man-jailed-in-**
 machete-attack-police-saidhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509822/1177/north-charleston-man-jailed-in-machete-attack-police-said

 This one goes for the gators
 http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130501/PC16/**
 130509937/1006/suspect-in-**woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-**
 inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-**alligatorshttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130501/PC16/130509937/1006/suspect-in-woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-alligators

 There were also various assorted gun shootings but nothing too unusual.

 --R



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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Rich Thomas

Victimless and non-violent crime, I am having a hard time with that one.

I don't think gators have taste neurons, their brain is about the size 
of a golf ball, which allows them to do 2 main things.


--R


On 5/2/13 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Hey Rich, about posting some crime reports that are both victimless and
nonviolent for a change?  As for the third example, has anyone ascertained
whether we taste like chicken or pork to a gator?

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Just in today's murder and mayhem report.

This one goes for the hammer, although he threatened a gun
http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130502/PC16/**
130509862/1005/police-report-**north-charleston-man-bashed-**
table-threatened-to-kill-**woman-with-hammerhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509862/1005/police-report-north-charleston-man-bashed-table-threatened-to-kill-woman-with-hammer

This one goes for the machete
http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130502/PC16/**
130509822/1177/north-**charleston-man-jailed-in-**
machete-attack-police-saidhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509822/1177/north-charleston-man-jailed-in-machete-attack-police-said

This one goes for the gators
http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130501/PC16/**
130509937/1006/suspect-in-**woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-**
inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-**alligatorshttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130501/PC16/130509937/1006/suspect-in-woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-alligators

There were also various assorted gun shootings but nothing too unusual.

--R



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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread John Reames
What about triggering all of the revenue enhancement devices (aka speed 
cameras) in DC?

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On May 2, 2013, at 15:45, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 Victimless and non-violent crime, I am having a hard time with that one.
 
 I don't think gators have taste neurons, their brain is about the size of a 
 golf ball, which allows them to do 2 main things.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 5/2/13 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Hey Rich, about posting some crime reports that are both victimless and
 nonviolent for a change?  As for the third example, has anyone ascertained
 whether we taste like chicken or pork to a gator?
 
 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 Just in today's murder and mayhem report.
 
 This one goes for the hammer, although he threatened a gun
 http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130502/PC16/**
 130509862/1005/police-report-**north-charleston-man-bashed-**
 table-threatened-to-kill-**woman-with-hammerhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509862/1005/police-report-north-charleston-man-bashed-table-threatened-to-kill-woman-with-hammer
 
 This one goes for the machete
 http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130502/PC16/**
 130509822/1177/north-**charleston-man-jailed-in-**
 machete-attack-police-saidhttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130502/PC16/130509822/1177/north-charleston-man-jailed-in-machete-attack-police-said
 
 This one goes for the gators
 http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20130501/PC16/**
 130509937/1006/suspect-in-**woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-**
 inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-**alligatorshttp://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130501/PC16/130509937/1006/suspect-in-woman-x2019-s-slaying-told-inmate-he-fed-her-body-to-alligators
 
 There were also various assorted gun shootings but nothing too unusual.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Dieselhead


What about triggering all of the revenue enhancement devices (aka 
speed cameras) in DC?


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Those are not victimless crimes.  Everyone who gets a ticket is a victim.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread OK Don
You don't need a gun to defend yourself -
http://feeds.nbcnews.com/c/35002/f/653383/s/2b729a63/l/0Lvideo0Bmsnbc0Bmsn0N0Cid0C51658713/story01.htm

I keep a WW1 sabre next to our bed - it makes a cool sound when you draw it
from the steel scabbard, though it might not be as universally recognizable
as a pump shotgun.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


  What about triggering all of the revenue enhancement devices (aka speed
 cameras) in DC?

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 Those are not victimless crimes.  Everyone who gets a ticket is a victim.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread OK Don
I see the speeders as perps, not victims.

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 Those are not victimless crimes.  Everyone who gets a ticket is a victim.







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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Dieselhead
Nope.  Not until a camera gets on the stand and testifies.  In the US 
of A, we have the right to face our accuser.  Some camera company 
inGermany is not an accuser in the eyes of the court.


Whoever gets a ticket is a victim of injustice.  They lie with 
studies about safety.  They claim its fer da cilluns.  It really is 
all about extorting money from the populace.




I see the speeders as perps, not victims.

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 Those are not victimless crimes.  Everyone who gets a ticket is a victim.


 



 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread OK Don
If you don't like the law (speed limits), work to get them changed ---
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean that you get to ignore them.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Whoever gets a ticket is a victim of injustice.  They lie with studies
 about safety.  They claim its fer da cilluns.  It really is all about
 extorting money from the populace.





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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Dieselhead
That is a different issue than the big gummit revenue cameras.  They 
are not about law, they are about revenue.  They are about extortion. 
There are lots of cases where people have proven they were not 
speeding when the revenue cameras say they were.  the camera company 
just fiddles with the radar to issue the numbers of tickets they want.


When they shorten the yellow light time at intersections when the red 
light cameras go up, you can't argue that it is for safety or the 
chilluns.  It is about money.  Don't get suckered into the trap.


True traffic safety studies show that increasing the yellow light 
time decreases accidents; increases safety.


There are also studies that show accidents increase where the 
redlight cameras go up.


Do a web search on simon conway traffic cameras.  If you do the 
research there is lots of evidence that the cameras are all about 
revenue.



If you don't like the law (speed limits), work to get them changed ---
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean that you get to ignore them.


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 Whoever gets a ticket is a victim of injustice.  They lie with studies
 about safety.  They claim its fer da cilluns.  It really is all about

  extorting money from the populace.



 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers [AND MACHETES AND GATORS] and registering owners

2013-05-02 Thread Benz Hogs
Not true in Chitkagoh.  Stay at any stop light controlled intersection 
during peak traffic times and you will see 2-6 cars go through or finish 
going through the intersection after the light is red nearly every light 
cycle.  I've seen more intersection accidents here with amber light 
times twice or triple what they are elsewhere because people insist that 
they can go through the light during and after the amber sequence.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)

On 5/2/2013 11:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

True traffic safety studies show that increasing the yellow light time
decreases accidents; increases safety.


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