Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The problem is not the main battery, it's the logic board backup battery that causes the PRAM or BIOS to lose it's data when it goes flat. They can also fail, like the on in my TIBook, so I have to re-set the clock every time I turn it on. NLA, sadly, I'll have to splice in a replacement

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's been so long that I don't remember the last time I had to defrag a drive. The last three finger salute was on Ubuntu that locked up. None of the HP laptops have failed due to a dead battery - they run fine on AC when the battery is removed, which is how I run the ancient one in the hangar

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
As long as it's plugged in you are fine. Leave it without power until the MB battery dies, and they can become completely inert. Had it happen too many times. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You never do the defrag dance? The three finger salute? I've had plennty winders boxes, including laptops that brick if the battery is dead. Each has it problems, but in my experience, I spend almost zero time maintaining the macbooks, versus lots of hours to maintain the winders boxes.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
But you don't have to do the magic dance and re-boot four times every 4-6 months to keep it healthy - it just keeps on trucking. OK - this PC is a year younger than Andrews (2009) - we'll see what happens in the next couple of years. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes - it operates on AC power even though the battery is at zero and doesn't charge. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Your PC will do the exact same thing when the BIOS battery pukes and you > unplug the machine. In the case of the Apple,

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Your PC will do the exact same thing when the BIOS battery pukes and you unplug the machine. In the case of the Apple, it will still operate on the mains. Yours may or may not, depending on the BIOS type and manufacturer of the motherboard. -D > On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:02 PM, OK Don via

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
WOW - and you guys complain about Windows machines!!! This is crazy. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM > battery can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
You also need to leave it on the charger for a couple days -- the PRAM battery can get discharged and result in all sort of goofy power issues. Will also result in the clock needing to be reset, which you may not notice if you have a live wireless connection.

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
IT might be the battery brain has forgotten things if it were stored over long and now is confused about cycles and charge level. I have no idea how to reset that. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately &

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have a removable battery (very easy). Will try tonight. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > First of all, zapping the PRAM (really known as resetting the NVRAM) won’t > mess anything up. It’s actually a good maintenance activity to do

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
First of all, zapping the PRAM (really known as resetting the NVRAM) won’t mess anything up. It’s actually a good maintenance activity to do every 4-6 months. The controller for the battery charging is part of the battery itself. Zapping the PRAM resets all of the hardware settings back to

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What is the connection to battery charging? *"Resetting the parameter random-access memory in a **Mac*

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
With the machine off, hold down the “P”, “R”, “option” and “Command “ (Apple) keys together. Turn on the machine with these keys depressed and hold them down until you hear the system “bong” sound. Continue holding them down and do so until the machine reboots four times. After the fourth

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Green or unlit. How does one does "zap the pram"? On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging? I > suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or the > battery. > > --

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
What does the Battery thingy say when it's theoretically charging? I suspect that it's part of the innards that's upset, not the charger or the battery. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The battery was new - do you mean the charging cord? On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 6:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > It's an Apple feature - telling you to buy a new one. 10 years is too old . > . . > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It's an Apple feature - telling you to buy a new one. 10 years is too old . . . On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Back in 2001 I'd have said "zap the pram, rebuild the desktop." Now it's > just "zap the pram" > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Back in 2001 I'd have said "zap the pram, rebuild the desktop." Now it's just "zap the pram" Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Recently happened to #1 Dotter's Macbook pro.  It cleared on its

Re: [MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Recently happened to #1 Dotter's Macbook pro. It cleared on its own, without buying a new battery. Might try calling support at Macsales.com and see what they think. The battery charging circuit/logic overrides any user input. Jut like a 2000+ car. Try: Complete discharge to shut off,

[MBZ] OT: The little MacBook pro that couldn't charge

2018-04-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The battery in my 2008 (?) MacBook Pro 14" laptop refuses to take a charge. I purchased a new genuine and identical Apple replacement battery and had the same problem, Although the ebay seller refunded my money I'm puzzled as to why this happens. The indicator light at the end of the charging