Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 3:04 PM -0500 11/16/13, Dan Penoff wrote: I'm sorry, but I hope I didn't give the impression it was for sale, as it's not. It has far more value as a family heirloom than a watch. I can post some pictures of it this weekend if you want to see it. Soitenly! I'm always interested in thing

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Certainly not. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine yes, greg, he did say that after i asked several times and i

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Peter Frederick
If you don't drink the stuff, owning a tavern can be a very lucrative operation -- lots of customers no matter what the economy is like and very high profit margins. Bad management is about the only way to lose money at one, other than being so weird you drive your customers off. Nose cand

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Gary Hurst
er of Magnelite anodized > pieces as well.>> > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary > Hurst > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:25 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs O

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
cussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine he's refusing to identify whether it is in fact the sort of aluminum your mom cooked with or whether it is some sort of non reactive anodized type, so it's unclear to me which he is talking about i can't imagine how ingesting alum

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I'm sorry, but I hope I didn't give the impression it was for sale, as it's not. It has far more value as a family heirloom than a watch. I can post some pictures of it this weekend if you want to see it. Not sure when I'll talk to my Mom next, but when I do I'll ask her. And just to clarify,

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 6:43 PM -0500 11/15/13, Dan Penoff wrote: Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. See if you can find out. I might be interested. :) -MMM- ___

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Gary Hurst
are was all severely pitted from even the mildly corrosive > effects of the food. Why would you want to cook with that? > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan > Penoff > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 20

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
cedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party" and invite a bunch of frien

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Gary Hurst
to ask again as you guys just talk about whatever and don't actually pay attention: is it raw or anodized? in other words, what color is the cooking surface? On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > You're welcome. > > I will say that after I read a couple of papers at the NHC it

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
You're welcome. I will say that after I read a couple of papers at the NHC it would appear that there is some risk with ingesting aluminum, but researchers can't seem to agree on the effects and/or if it's a concern. It does sound like any Al ingested from cookware is well below daily limits,

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Craig
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:43:31 -0500 Dan Penoff wrote: > Hmm. The alz.org folks don't seem to lend any credence to this. > > http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp Thank you for the link. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
Hmm. The alz.org folks don't seem to lend any credence to this. http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_myths_about_alzheimers.asp Dan On Nov 16, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Craig wrote: > On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:53:36 -0500 Gary Hurst > wrote: > >> this is raw aluminum or anodized? >> >> i'm a cast i

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Craig
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:53:36 -0500 Gary Hurst wrote: > this is raw aluminum or anodized? > > i'm a cast iron guy myself With the supposed link between aluminum and Alzheimer's, we have eliminated aluminum cookware from our house. Craig ___ http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Rich Thomas
I took a trailer load of house building trash to the dump a few weeks back. 2 goobers pull up next to me in a pickup and proceed to start throwing box after box of art books and household goods out. I tell them they should try to sell that stuff on CL, or take it to Goodwill or something, they

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Gary Hurst
this is raw aluminum or anodized? i'm a cast iron guy myself On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it > in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. > > It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you woul

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I regularly buy and use Guardian aluminum cookware. I have a bunch of it in the kitchen and it gets used nearly every day. It used to be sold like Tupperware, where you would have a "party" and invite a bunch of friends over and the salesperson would come and demo it. Also known as aluminum "

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: > Anything with springs and gears instead of electrons is steam punk -- my > Cessna has steam gauges. My son refers to Lear35 that he flies as being equipped with steam gauges. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote: > as for taxpayers subsidizing transportation, it seems to make more sense > than subsidizing perpetual war on everything, so maybe I think we need a new more comprehensive law like ACA. We need an ALA - Affordable Living Act. Hey - all of you wage earners will pay more taxes, eit

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread OK Don
Anything with springs and gears instead of electrons is steam punk -- my Cessna has steam gauges. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:11 AM, clay wrote: > This is no way steam punk. Classic executive watch of the Mad Men era. > > clay > > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Mountain Man
Alex wrote: > Sell your grandparents' electric fence insulator collection while you can! > I remember my uncle collected insulators from poles along the railroad tracks in 1970. I made a hanging candle lamp in college using an insulator. Now they have value? mao

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i also really like old corning glass stuff. i don't buy or keep stuff i don't use all the time, but if i did, my life would be covered with corelle and pyrex i liked that stuff so much i used to stop by and just talk to anyone there who'd talk to me if i was ever in the area. haven't been in ove

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i found some jap cutlery of the sixties. really nice stuff. i threw out the more modern stuff and we use that now. in a previous life i only used new york made oneida stuff but that, along with almost all my cool stuff, no resides with the ex wife On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:17 PM, clay wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread clay
Understandable. My cousin married the son of a small town jeweler. His parents passed away about a decade ago and there was a boat load of really cool mid century decor items that were socked away. My cousin figured it was better to keep it, since it is cool, as there would be almost no mark

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
i lived in california for 3 years, but i didn't like it but, yeah, i'm really mostly an eastern guy as for taxpayers subsidizing transportation, it seems to make more sense than subsidizing perpetual war on everything, so maybe On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Nov

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread clay
I generally keep my mouth shut and assist Mom when the bug to sell stuff hits. She has a much less inflated valuation, and tends to toss really good stuff into the trash. I had to salvage a bunch of interesting Viet Nam era items Dad had acquired while in country. When I toss out a price for

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 15, 2013 4:22 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > > So you want all the taxpayers to subsidize your transpo choices. > > Jabba also has no clue what life is like west of the Mississippi. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
So you want all the taxpayers to subsidize your transpo choices. --R (who is becoming a latter-day expert on transpo issues, what with my agitation efforts) On 11/15/13 6:58 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm and then walk down the road t

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Dwight Giles
I totally agree. I was born 20 years too late. Here the milk trains not only picked up milk from farmers but took kids to high school. Sigh. Then I do love my two MB diesels though. On Nov 15, 2013 6:58 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
the interurbans were great. harry truman used to work on the farm and then walk down the road to the interurban. in an hour he was in kansas city, which was on the tour for all cultural happenings. it opened the world up to people today you need a car. that willl cost you a couple of hundred a

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Indianapolis. Which line, I don't know. There were several that went from Indy to the then 'burbs. I could ask my Mom. Not sure if she will remember. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:07 PM, "M. Mitchell Marmel" wrote: > > (interested look) Which interurban? > > -MMM- > > >>

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Watch values depend very much on someone's willingness to buy it -- Railroad Approved watches are quite popular and carry a fairly high price due to the demand for them, which has nothing at all to do with their timekeeping abilities (although they are generally better at keeping time than

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Interurban watches were lower grade than the normal Railroad Approved ones, but always decent watches. Sadly the price depends on the demand. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chan

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Nov 15, 2013 2:15 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > > Like a lot of other collectible stuff. > Worth a bunch when folks want to > buy it, but after a while those folks > fade away and the next generation > has no interest and dumps the > parents' collection. Suddenly there is > lots of it out there

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Randy Bennell
Like a lot of other collectible stuff. Worth a bunch when folks want to buy it, but after a while those folks fade away and the next generation has no interest and dumps the parents' collection. Suddenly there is lots of it out there and no one wants it. Randy

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
(interested look) Which interurban? -MMM- On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. > Everybody always made a big deal about "Grandpa's pocket watch" and how > valuable it was. > > Somehow I ended up with it.

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Dan Penoff
It's like old Kodak cameras. I have a couple of folding bellows roll film cameras from the 1930s, both of which are in working order if you wanted to scrounge the roll film for them. They are beautiful display pieces I have on a shelf, but are so common they probably have values in the sub $20

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
that is how it normally turns out, dan. have a similar problem with my mom's "silver" flatware. just cheap silverplate crap from 1950s macy's. whole set not worth 100 bucks on ebay she has decided to sell it as she no longer entertains . she assures me it is worth several thousand dollars, mayb

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Dan Penoff
My maternal grandfather was a conductor on the interurban for many years. Everybody always made a big deal about "Grandpa's pocket watch" and how valuable it was. Somehow I ended up with it. Did some checking on the net to find it was a very common watch and was worth about $20. > On Nov 15,

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread Gary Hurst
most old watches are pretty worthless my dad had a gold fill wittnauer. he though it was a patek. violence nearly erupted when he asked me for an appraisal and i said "oh, 25, maybe 50 bucks" it my dads generation, if someone says something you don't like, you punch him in the mouth. luckily m

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread clay
Dad's watch. Mom took it to have it appraised. Jeweler told her if it were new, they would sell it for $900. Not new, no value other than for the gold and movement. clay On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a t

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-15 Thread clay
After banging around the interwebs for two hours I sort of was able to cobble together some data. Seems to have been a Cleveland area jeweler who had swiss movements that they made watches from in the 1940-1960s. Then they moved into retail and dropped the watches. They still do repair, but m

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Private brand, likely, so it could be anything from a junker to a top quality watch -- odd thing about solid gold cases, often the watch mechanism isn't as nice as the case! More common in old pocket watches (people who use their watches heavily tend to get "sliveroid" --nickel -- or stain

Re: [MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-14 Thread OK Don
It sounds like a classic steampunk watch to me. :-) (ducking). On Thursday, November 14, 2013, clay wrote: > Subject is a Swiss Litwin 30 jewel Automatic. 14k gold back, maybe case as well. Good crystal. No date function. Second hand sweep, numerals are just hash marks in gold. Band is no

[MBZ] OT--Watch Snobs Opine

2013-11-14 Thread clay
Subject is a Swiss Litwin 30 jewel Automatic. 14k gold back, maybe case as well. Good crystal. No date function. Second hand sweep, numerals are just hash marks in gold. Band is not original to the wrist watch. Pre-1970. Anybody able to offer opinion or enlightenment? clay 2002 s430 -