Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-14 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Jan 8, 2015 6:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am going to revive an old topic. I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons. Ubuntu is intended to be a user friendly Linux, and has the overhead to achieve it. Something from the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-14 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Jan 8, 2015 6:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am going to revive an old topic. I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons. Ubuntu is intended to be a user friendly Linux, and has the overhead to achieve it. Something from the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-12 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
to move to a different machine and have everything there for me.. -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? Curly wrote: I am going to revive

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? I use Google for quite a lot. What are you wanting to know? On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody else using Google Docs? I know about the security concerns but the stuff I'm putting up

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Dan, I know about compatibility mode.  I tried it and a lot of other things.  It wasn't so much my programs as my wife's accounting software and old Lotus apps that she still used.  I even tried the virtual box with XP loaded to no avail.  These apps had been moved using PCMover.  What

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? I don't think the Mac RDC version has been updated in a long time.  Last time I tried using it I couldn't get it to work. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Curt Raymond via

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm running 10.8, works fine. RDC v 2.1.1 -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? Maybe you didn't get the latest

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
installed. -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? ‎I have used a version of Linux named SliTaz

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message   From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 11:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? I suspect your daily use machine would be improved by a dose of RAM, that processor should still

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Any distribution should have rdesktop, which should work fine as long as you have the domain security stuff off. What domain security has to be off? I tried connecting to the Winserver from the ubuntu desktop. It

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think the Mac OS version was the issue. I was probably running 10.8 at the time. I'm running 10.10 now, so I'm sure it wouldn't work unless they recently updated it. Not a biggie now, as we use VDI instead of Remote Desktop when we're working remotely. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 9,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? ‎Original Message   From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 11:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Correction (albeit minor) Virtualbox is free from Oracle... -Curt From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? Dan, I know about compatibility mode

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎I have used a version of Linux named SliTaz. It loads and runs entirely in RAM. As a result it is blazingly fast, even on the PII laptop I tried it on. It is very spartan, and may not be suitable for your needs. I was unable to easily configure a usb wireless adapter with it, as I was

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I figured you did, Roger. I was just pointing out that in a few cases I have seen, the OS' ability to recognize some legacy apps doesn't always work, and using Compatibility Mode to force it to recognize things resurrects the app. It is amazing some of the really archaic Windows software I've

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:55 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig, If you have the choice, I'd recommend loading 32bit Win7 Pro. On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 09:28:42 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When we migrated from XP to Win7 at

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When we migrated from XP to Win7 at the school district, extensive testing indicated that the 64 bit version of Win7 was problematic for a lot of legacy (and) 32 bit applications. We went with the 32 bit version and had few, if any, compatibility issues with applications that had previously run

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don't think the Mac RDC version has been updated in a long time. Last time I tried using it I couldn't get it to work. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't remember the exact reason but normal VNC won't

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 22:01:24 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yup.  I don't pay much attention to MSWin

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? Curly wrote: I am going to revive an old topic.  I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons.  14.04 requires a dvd... the installer sez the machine video

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Craig,   If you have the choice, I'd recommend loading 32bit Win7 Pro.  I have two core2duo Dells that were running XP SP3.  I loaded 32bit Win7 Pro and the PCs actually seem slower than on XP.  Also, some of my old programs no longer wanted to work on a 64bit OS.  I've found that

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes? I am going to revive an old topic.  I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons.  14.04 requires a dvd, and no player  on the old box

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Maybe you didn't get the latest version of the RDC for mac? Or maybe your Mac OS was 10.7 or higher? I installed it a couple years ago on 10.6 and it runs fine. If it requires Rosetta, then it won't run on 10.7 or higher. I've never checked if it is a powerPC version. It just runs, does

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
If you are running on older hardware, you might not get to use any distribution or any desktop. I put Wary Puppy on an old PC I was using to make a floppy disk for card reflashing purposes. It worked. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-08 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curly wrote: I am going to revive an old topic. I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons. 14.04 requires a dvd... the installer sez the machine video won't support 14.04. I though one major selling point was that it did not require the latest hardware?

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-08 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I am going to revive an old topic. I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons. 14.04 requires a dvd, and no player on the old box. So I put in a dvd. Then the installer sez the machine video won't support 14.04.I though one major selling point was that

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-08 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Jan 8, 2015 6:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am going to revive an old topic. I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons. Ubuntu is intended to be a user friendly Linux, and has the overhead to achieve it. Something from the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-08 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Curly wrote: I am going to revive an old topic. I tried loading the latest ubuntu on a P4 box, and it choked for 2 reasons. 14.04 requires a dvd... the installer sez the machine video won't support 14.04. I though one major selling point was that it did not require the latest

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 22:01:24 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yup. I don't pay much attention to MSWin - but there is not software claiming it needs at least Win7 to run... One of these days I'll actually have to abandon XP. *sigh* I went to update the maps on our

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro for P4 boxes?

2015-01-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 21:11:48 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2015 6:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: rant 7 is no improvement, I love W7 (professional, never used home). On the same machine it booted faster, and did about

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-29 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
I just can't go any further until I understand why you want to run PuTTY on a *NIX box? On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am a total newbie. I've been dabbling with Ubuntu running as a VM in VirtualBox, which for various reasons had no

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:00:38 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: TIP: If you don't like having to type sudo over and over again, type sudo su and _become_ root for a while. Or type su - and then enter root's password. The hyphen will tell su that you want to

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:08:37 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Slackware, linux-from-scratch, and Gentoo are also a bit different. The rest of the Linux kernel distributions can be grouped into two package management methods - Debian-type that use .deb files and

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:08:37 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: I am thinking locked down in this case may be a good thing. The plan is to use the client box as a dumb terminal, even though they are smart terminals. X2Go works very well for this. It

[MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I need to set up a Linux system on a laptop so I can run a Linux VM, probably VirtualBox. I'm thinking Ubuntu, but I'm not partial to any one particular distro. This is just for training purposes, nothing long term. I need it to be simple and easy to set up. Suggestions from the resident

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Dan wrote: I need to set up a Linux system on a laptop so I can run a Linux VM, probably VirtualBox. I'm thinking Ubuntu, but I'm not partial to any one particular distro. This is just for training purposes, nothing long term. I need it to be simple and easy to set up. Suggestions

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I am a total newbie. I've been dabbling with Ubuntu running as a VM in VirtualBox, which for various reasons had no internet access. I found it beyond my meager IT skills to add any software beyond what came in the Ubuntu download. In other words, I wanted to load PuTTY from a CD vice a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
- Best Linux Distro I am a total newbie. I've been dabbling with Ubuntu running as a VM in VirtualBox, which for various reasons had no internet access. I found it beyond my meager IT skills to add any software beyond what came in the Ubuntu download.  In other words, I wanted to load PuTTY from

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I find Ubuntu very locked down. I've had better luck with Mint, Mepis and Puppy which is what I'm typing this on right now... -Curt Tell us more. locked down how, or in respect to what? I am planning to replace 4 windows xp desktops at a small company with ubuntu, then have them run an

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Meade wrote: I am a total newbie. I've been dabbling with Ubuntu running as a VM in VirtualBox, which for various reasons had no internet access. I found it beyond my meager IT skills to add any software beyond what came in the Ubuntu download. In other words, I wanted to load PuTTY

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro I find Ubuntu very locked down. I've had better luck with Mint, Mepis and Puppy which is what I'm typing this on right now... -Curt Tell us more.  locked down how

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: This was a few years ago but due to licensing issues Ubuntu didn't come with the capability to play most video files, this was a big problem for me as I wanted to use it for a media machine. IIRC at one point it couldn't even play mp3 files. With other distros there was a very

Re: [MBZ] OT - Best Linux Distro

2014-12-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: I find Ubuntu very locked down. I've had better luck with Mint, Mepis and Puppy which is what I'm typing this on right now... Curly wrote: Tell us more. locked down how, or in respect to what? I am planning to replace 4 windows xp desktops at a small company with