Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-22 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:02:35 -0500, Jeff wrote: > Is qemu the only Winemu you've tried? > > Have you tried wine, etc..? > > Zedic A while back I messed with bochs. Qemu is a lot easier. Wine isn't an emulator. It doesn't work for most of the programs I need to run - or I haven't

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
Is qemu the only Winemu you've tried? Have you tried wine, etc..? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: htt

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Booher
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, one more thing I have to point out, the Run As option will not show up > on a file that is not an executable. This includes short cuts. You need to > right click on the actual .EXE or .MSI. Again, you can write a batch wit

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Booher
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That's easy in the Unix world (Linux, BSD, etc.) because there > > is "su", "sudo", and "fakeroot". Is there something like that in > > MS Windows?

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Booher
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's easy in the Unix world (Linux, BSD, etc.) because there > is "su", "sudo", and "fakeroot". Is there something like that in > MS Windows? Some way I can install a program without having to > log out of my current user an

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Booher
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thats probably a good idea. One question, how do you make the admin > account show up as a login account when it starts up and you click on > which user to log in as? > You don't. Administrator is hidden for "securit

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Fmiser
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > If the definition of a bot is a "robot" computer running a > > program that the own is unaware of... > > > > Windows, mostly. > > > > A wide-open Linux computer can act an a relay, but it takes > > effort to turn it into

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats probably a good idea. One question, how do you make the admin account show up as a login account when it starts up and you click on which user to log in as? Ed Booher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If the definition of a bot is a "robot"

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread OK Don
Amen, Brother! Well said. > > The most important thing to remember on a Windows machine is, when the > choice presents itself, to never use XP Home and to always XP Pro to start > with (there are fundamental differences in the network and multi-user [ha ha > sorry] capabilities) and to *never*

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-21 Thread Ed Booher
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the definition of a bot is a "robot" computer running a > program that the own is unaware of... > > Windows, mostly. > > A wide-open Linux computer can act an a relay, but it takes > effort to turn it into a bot. Mac is probab

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Bill R
Thanks Jeff, I'll do that BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot Bill, you'll want to go into the admin set

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:59:01 -0500, Harry wrote: > A friend of mine wrote this in his blog. What are the rolls > of OS regarding Bots? If the definition of a bot is a "robot" computer running a program that the own is unaware of... Windows, mostly. A wide-open Linux computer can

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah it really is more than that. I'd expand my statement to say that the vast majority of software developers don't understand how to write secure code. Microsoft has really improved their efforts over the last few years, but there is so much legacy out there from the days when security was an a

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Jim Cathey
> The heart of the problem is that most of the networking protocols were > designed in academic environments by and for people who understood them > and trusted each other. If you ask me, the real heart of the problem lives in Redmond. -- Jim ___ http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot Mitch, hopefully you're not depending on the built in Windows firewall..if you are, get yourself a real firewallfor

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:24:21 -0400, "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I still have my firewall turned off with the assumption that my wireless > router takes care of that function It does, but defense-in-depth is a fundamental computer security principle. Better to use both. Allan -- 1983 30

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:59:01 -0500, "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The compromising danger that is out there now > is so bad already that if you put a computer on the Internet with a raw > unpatched operating system, the machine would be > compromised in minutes. In fact, testing has

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Jeff Zedic
Bill, you'll want to go into the admin setup of your router and make sure it's turned on. It should be but can also be offyou will want this piece of mind, though. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbp

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Bill R
: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot Harry Watkins wrote: > is so bad already that if you put a computer on the Internet with a raw > unpatched operating system <http://appendum.com/#>, the machine would be > compromised in minutes. I was getting several warnings from Norton every day that

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Jeff Zedic
Mitch, hopefully you're not depending on the built in Windows firewall..if you are, get yourself a real firewallfor free...get Zone Alarm The windows firewall is very basic and easily bypassed by any noob hacker. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new p

Re: [MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Harry Watkins wrote: > is so bad already that if you put a computer on the Internet with a raw > unpatched operating system , the machine would be > compromised in minutes. I was getting several warnings from Norton every day that some server had tried to force a buffer over

[MBZ] OT Computer Zombot

2008-03-19 Thread Harry Watkins
A friend of mine wrote this in his blog. What are the rolls of OS regarding Bots? "A bot is a compromised computer controlled by cash-hungry crooks. That's about as simple as I can state it. There are situations where bot 'owners' have nefarious goals in mind, but in most cases the bottom line mo