Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no.  no free play

Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote on 3/15/20 6:24 PM:

Thanks -- I checked out a couple of videos on Youtube. Looks like outer
end is easy. Inner requries Ford special tool to remove, or dropping the
lower control arm for access and then using a pipe wrench.

Definitely need to do the outer on the right side. Not sure how to tell
on the inner since you can't really see it. Should there be ANY free
play if I pull/push the wheel from side to side?

Allan





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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Thanks -- I checked out a couple of videos on Youtube. Looks like outer
end is easy. Inner requries Ford special tool to remove, or dropping the
lower control arm for access and then using a pipe wrench.

Definitely need to do the outer on the right side. Not sure how to tell
on the inner since you can't really see it. Should there be ANY free
play if I pull/push the wheel from side to side?

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> I had some Focii in the family during a dark period of my life, but I never 
> had to get into the suspension on one, sorry. As you might expect, there are 
> some good forums online.
>
> I believe I used FocusFanatics for reference when necessary.
>
> https://www.focusfanatics.com/forums/
>
> -D
>
>> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think there's some Ford Focus experience on the list?
>> 
>> Need to replace tie rod end on the boy's 2001. Anything out of the
>> ordinary?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had some Focii in the family during a dark period of my life, but I never had 
to get into the suspension on one, sorry. As you might expect, there are some 
good forums online.

I believe I used FocusFanatics for reference when necessary.

https://www.focusfanatics.com/forums/

-D

> On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think there's some Ford Focus experience on the list?
> 
> Need to replace tie rod end on the boy's 2001. Anything out of the
> ordinary?
> 
> Allan
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[MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I think there's some Ford Focus experience on the list?

Need to replace tie rod end on the boy's 2001. Anything out of the
ordinary?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

Dan Penoff  writes:

> I'll also refill with straight AF and check the concentration, since I
> know there will be a fair amount of water left in the system.

Yeah that is my approach as well.  Once I feel that there is more or
less straight water left in the system, I'll add half the capacity of
undiluted coolant, then top off with water.  Resulting in a 50:50 mix.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Dan Penoff]

That's what I did.  I usually drain as completely as possible, fill with tap 
water, drive for a short while with the heater on, cool, drain and refill 
again, drive, cool and drain.

Sort of a "lather, rinse, repeat" thing.

I'll also refill with straight AF and check the concentration, since I know 
there will be a fair amount of water left in the system.  Of course, in this 
climate you don't have to worry about freezing, but I would be a little more 
careful about it if I was north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

Dan


On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> One other thing I noticed... when you drain the system from the radiator
> petcock, you get about 1 gallon out; the cooling system capacity is 6
> quarts, so there's still 2 quarts left in there "somewhere."
> 
> Meaning if you want to do a really complete change of coolant, you'll
> need to do a few clean-water fill/drain cycles to get most of the old
> coolant out.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

One other thing I noticed... when you drain the system from the radiator
petcock, you get about 1 gallon out; the cooling system capacity is 6
quarts, so there's still 2 quarts left in there "somewhere."

Meaning if you want to do a really complete change of coolant, you'll
need to do a few clean-water fill/drain cycles to get most of the old
coolant out.

Allan


Dan Penoff  writes:

> Glad to be of assistance.
>
> I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my 
> former Crown Vic.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Good to hear, thanks.  Off to the garage
>> 
>> BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
>> nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

According to wikipedia in 2004 Ford switched over to design based on the
Mazda MZR engine for its I4 engines.  These were given the name Duratec
and were made with varying displacements including the 2.3.

The Zetec line I think was never bigger than a 2.0l except the diesel
Zetec TDCi went up to 2.4l.  Of course we never saw the diesel version
in the states.

Allan

Dan Penoff  writes:

> Interesting - I went in and looked at the part for both my 2004 and 2005 
> (both 2.3l engine) and it looks identical but it's a different vendor and a 
> heck of a lot more expensive.
>
> Mine are a 2004 ZTW wagon and a 2005 ZX5.
>
> Maybe they redesigned it if they were having problems?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Mine is a 2003 "SE" (wagon) which has the 2.0 Zetec DOHC.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Dan Penoff]

Interesting - I went in and looked at the part for both my 2004 and 2005 (both 
2.3l engine) and it looks identical but it's a different vendor and a heck of a 
lot more expensive.

Mine are a 2004 ZTW wagon and a 2005 ZX5.

Maybe they redesigned it if they were having problems?

Dan



On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Mine is a 2003 "SE" (wagon) which has the 2.0 Zetec DOHC.
> 
> Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

Mine is a 2003 "SE" (wagon) which has the 2.0 Zetec DOHC.

Allan

Dan Penoff  writes:

> I can never keep the engines straight on these things.  Both of mine have the 
> 2.3 liter 4.  Is that the Zetec, or is it the 2.0 liter?
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Allan Streib  writes:
>> 
>>> A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat
>>> housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec.  So I'm betting
>>> that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing
>>> the gasket.
>> 
>> I ordered this
>> 
>>  http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1268706
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Dan Penoff]

I can never keep the engines straight on these things.  Both of mine have the 
2.3 liter 4.  Is that the Zetec, or is it the 2.0 liter?

Dan


On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Allan Streib  writes:
> 
>> A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat
>> housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec.  So I'm betting
>> that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing
>> the gasket.
> 
> I ordered this
> 
>  http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1268706
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

Allan Streib  writes:

> A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat
> housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec.  So I'm betting
> that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing
> the gasket.

I ordered this

  http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1268706

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Max Dillon]

I change thermostats every other coolant change.
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Peter Hertzing  wrote:

Go with new.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Well nothing is ever *easy* is it?
> 
> I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the
> engine. Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and
> discovered that the thermostat gasket leaks under pressure. That would
> explain the slow coolant loss I've observed on this car in recent
> months.
> 
> So, off to FLAPS to get a gasket. Wondering about the possibility that
> the housing is warped (it looks to be plastic).
> 
> Should I get a new thermostat as well, or leave the old one as it seems
> to be working fine?
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff  writes:
> 
>> Glad to be of assistance.
>> 
>> I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my 
>> former Crown Vic.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>> 
>>> Good to hear, thanks. Off to the garage
>>> 
>>> BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
>>> nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat
housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec.  So I'm betting
that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing
the gasket.

Allan

Allan Streib  writes:

> Well nothing is ever *easy* is it?
>
> I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the
> engine.  Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and
> discovered that the thermostat gasket leaks under pressure.  That would
> explain the slow coolant loss I've observed on this car in recent
> months.
>
> So, off to FLAPS to get a gasket.  Wondering about the possibility that
> the housing is warped (it looks to be plastic).
>
> Should I get a new thermostat as well, or leave the old one as it seems
> to be working fine?
>
> Allan
>
> Dan Penoff  writes:
>
>> Glad to be of assistance.
>>
>> I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my 
>> former Crown Vic.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>>
>>> Good to hear, thanks.  Off to the garage
>>> 
>>> BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
>>> nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Peter Hertzing]

Go with new.

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On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Well nothing is ever *easy* is it?
> 
> I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the
> engine.  Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and
> discovered that the thermostat gasket leaks under pressure.  That would
> explain the slow coolant loss I've observed on this car in recent
> months.
> 
> So, off to FLAPS to get a gasket.  Wondering about the possibility that
> the housing is warped (it looks to be plastic).
> 
> Should I get a new thermostat as well, or leave the old one as it seems
> to be working fine?
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff  writes:
> 
>> Glad to be of assistance.
>> 
>> I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my 
>> former Crown Vic.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>> 
>>> Good to hear, thanks.  Off to the garage
>>> 
>>> BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
>>> nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

Well nothing is ever *easy* is it?

I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the
engine.  Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and
discovered that the thermostat gasket leaks under pressure.  That would
explain the slow coolant loss I've observed on this car in recent
months.

So, off to FLAPS to get a gasket.  Wondering about the possibility that
the housing is warped (it looks to be plastic).

Should I get a new thermostat as well, or leave the old one as it seems
to be working fine?

Allan

Dan Penoff  writes:

> Glad to be of assistance.
>
> I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my 
> former Crown Vic.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Good to hear, thanks.  Off to the garage
>> 
>> BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
>> nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.
>> 
>> Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Dan Penoff]

Glad to be of assistance.

I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my 
former Crown Vic.

Dan


On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Good to hear, thanks.  Off to the garage
> 
> BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
> nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.
> 
> Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

Good to hear, thanks.  Off to the garage

BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and
nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford.

Allan

Dan Penoff  writes:

> Yup.
>
> Pretty straightforward as far as I found.  Drain the radiator from the bottom 
> drain (plastic - ugh! flush with clear water several times and then refill 
> with the proper Ford gold coolant.
>
> I never had a problem with air pockets or overheating.  This has been done on 
> both of my Focuses by me without any issues.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Want to change out the coolant in our '03 Focus before winter.  I've
>> found some postings that say it's a simple drain/fill operation, others
>> talk about extreme difficulty getting air purged and subsequent random
>> overheating.
>> 
>> Any Focus owners (Dan?) done this?
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Dan Penoff]

Yup.

Pretty straightforward as far as I found.  Drain the radiator from the bottom 
drain (plastic - ugh! flush with clear water several times and then refill with 
the proper Ford gold coolant.

I never had a problem with air pockets or overheating.  This has been done on 
both of my Focuses by me without any issues.

Dan


On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Want to change out the coolant in our '03 Focus before winter.  I've
> found some postings that say it's a simple drain/fill operation, others
> talk about extreme difficulty getting air purged and subsequent random
> overheating.
> 
> Any Focus owners (Dan?) done this?
> 
> Allan
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[MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

[Allan Streib]

Want to change out the coolant in our '03 Focus before winter.  I've
found some postings that say it's a simple drain/fill operation, others
talk about extreme difficulty getting air purged and subsequent random
overheating.

Any Focus owners (Dan?) done this?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Allan Streib]

Tonight I worked on the idea that the mounts were not bolted down in the
correct position (the plates that bolt to the chassis have a bit of slop
built in, not sure why, I guess so they don't have to build the chassis
to close tolerances).

I loosened all the bolts, started the engine, put it in drive, reverse,
then back into neutral.  Gave it a bit of gas in each position.  The
engine did move around a bit.

Bolted it back down where it had settled, and I can't say that I can
tell a lot of difference in the vibrations.

Looking at the setup, I'm not convinced the mounts are responsible.  I
think the old ones were tired, because replacing them resulted in
improvement, but not elimination of the vibrations.

One of the forum posts described finding the timing being off.  The
timing belt on this engine is past-due for replacement.  I wonder if it
has gotten stretched enough to jump a tooth?  Wrong timing could cause a
rough idle.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Brian Toscano]

When you see unavailable, I think its best to call/email with the idea that
"everything is available" regardless of what the website says.



On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Rusty, I did check your site before I went to Rockauto, but the parts I
> wanted came up as unavailable.
>
> I believe I've eliminated the EGR valve as a culprit, though it looks
> pretty rough/corroded externally.  If I disconnect the vacuum, the idle
> does not change; if I apply vacuum at idle the engine immediately
> stumbles and dies.
>
> I'll try loosening the mount bolts and sliding the engine around a
> little to see if I can get an improvement.  Might try loosening all the
> bolts a bit and starting the engine, to see if it will "settle" where it
> wants to be.
>
> Allan
>
>
> "Rusty Cullens"  writes:
>
> > I just need the year, make & model, I can do the rest. World Pac owns
> > CarQuest so we can get anything they have.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle
> >
> > Cool. I can get part numbers - that's the easy part.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On May 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> He can.  But he does not know as much about focii as he would a 126
> coupe
> > or a 280SEL
> >>
> >>
> >>> I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the "Q"
> > can't get domestic parts for us
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Allan Streib]

Rusty, I did check your site before I went to Rockauto, but the parts I
wanted came up as unavailable.

I believe I've eliminated the EGR valve as a culprit, though it looks
pretty rough/corroded externally.  If I disconnect the vacuum, the idle
does not change; if I apply vacuum at idle the engine immediately
stumbles and dies.

I'll try loosening the mount bolts and sliding the engine around a
little to see if I can get an improvement.  Might try loosening all the
bolts a bit and starting the engine, to see if it will "settle" where it
wants to be.

Allan


"Rusty Cullens"  writes:

> I just need the year, make & model, I can do the rest. World Pac owns
> CarQuest so we can get anything they have.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle
>
> Cool. I can get part numbers - that's the easy part.
>
> Dan
>
> On May 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> He can.  But he does not know as much about focii as he would a 126 coupe
> or a 280SEL
>> 
>> 
>>> I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the "Q"
> can't get domestic parts for us
>>> 
>>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Rick Knoble]

On May 17, 2012, at 8:21 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> nteresting so he blames aftermarket motor mounts.  Well, luckily they
> were cheap at least.  I'll keep that in mind if nothing else works.


One of the other posts in one of the threads I linked to mentioned positioning 
of the passenger side mount also. When I did the alternator on SIL Focus, I 
took that mount loose for clearance. It is in a kind of slot IIRC. If nothing 
else, you now have two pretty good forums to peruse for Focus answers. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Rusty Cullens]

I just need the year, make & model, I can do the rest. World Pac owns
CarQuest so we can get anything they have.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

Cool. I can get part numbers - that's the easy part.

Dan

On May 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> He can.  But he does not know as much about focii as he would a 126 coupe
or a 280SEL
> 
> 
>> I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the "Q"
can't get domestic parts for us
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Dan Penoff]

Cool. I can get part numbers - that's the easy part.

Dan

On May 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> He can.  But he does not know as much about focii as he would a 126 coupe or 
> a 280SEL
> 
> 
>> I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the "Q" can't 
>> get domestic parts for us
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Dieselhead]

He can.  But he does not know as much about focii as he would a 126 
coupe or a 280SEL



I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the 
"Q" can't get domestic parts for us


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Dan Penoff]

I will check with my stealership on the parts prices. Too bad the "Q" can't get 
domestic parts for us

Dan

On May 17, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Dan Penoff  writes:
> 
>> I wondered about mounts. Mine are in good shape, but I haven't crawled
>> under to check the dogbone on the back of the engine. Probably should
>> do that.
> 
> The rear mount (torque mount, it's called) apparently can collect small
> rocks and other debris which will then cause more vibration to be
> transmitted.  I replace mine (very easy to do) but didn't note any
> debris trapped in the old one, and it didn't make a big difference.
> 
> Changing the two mounts under the hood (transmission/left side and
> motor/right side did result in improvement, but not elimination, of the
> vibration.  Also a pretty easy job.  I did use aftermarket Chinese
> mounts from Rockauto though, so maybe I need to try genuine Ford.
> 
> Also wondering if it might resonance in the exhaust system for some
> reason.  Not sure why that would develop though.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Dan Penoff]

While it is always more expensive, I tend to stick with OEM rubber parts after 
seeing a comparison of OEM vs. non-OEM windshield seals. Lots of little details 
can get left out by the aftermarket folks, and the difference in cost is pretty 
insignificant when you have to replace the part for lack of performance or 
premature failure.

I know the passenger side motor mount is about the same price between the 
dealer and aftermarket, as I looked at them a few months ago for the 
youngster's car.

I couldn't find the dogbone part anywhere, nor could I identify it on Ford's 
parts site.

Dan 

On May 17, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Rick Knoble  writes:
> 
>> Read the very last post. 
>> http://forums.focaljet.com/team-tech/589679-2003-zx3-vibration-idle-2.html
> 
> Interesting so he blames aftermarket motor mounts.  Well, luckily they
> were cheap at least.  I'll keep that in mind if nothing else works.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Allan Streib]

Dan Penoff  writes:

> I wondered about mounts. Mine are in good shape, but I haven't crawled
> under to check the dogbone on the back of the engine. Probably should
> do that.

The rear mount (torque mount, it's called) apparently can collect small
rocks and other debris which will then cause more vibration to be
transmitted.  I replace mine (very easy to do) but didn't note any
debris trapped in the old one, and it didn't make a big difference.

Changing the two mounts under the hood (transmission/left side and
motor/right side did result in improvement, but not elimination, of the
vibration.  Also a pretty easy job.  I did use aftermarket Chinese
mounts from Rockauto though, so maybe I need to try genuine Ford.

Also wondering if it might resonance in the exhaust system for some
reason.  Not sure why that would develop though.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Allan Streib]

Rick Knoble  writes:

> Read the very last post. 
> http://forums.focaljet.com/team-tech/589679-2003-zx3-vibration-idle-2.html

Interesting so he blames aftermarket motor mounts.  Well, luckily they
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Dan Penoff]

I wondered about mounts. Mine are in good shape, but I haven't crawled under to 
check the dogbone on the back of the engine. Probably should do that.

I know my son's 2005 needs mounts. I was going to do his and see how much of a 
job it was before tackling mine...

Dan who needs to look at the forums once in a while

On May 17, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Interesting that you posted this, as I have noticed my wagon doing exactly 
> the same thing.
> 
> I wonder if it needs wires? Mine doesn't need any of the items you replaced.
> 
> I would bring it up at my next stealership oil change, but they would 
> probably come back with a litany of repairs it needs.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On May 16, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
>> 2003 Focus, DOHC Zetec engine, 150K miles.  Has developed a rough idle,
>> actually more like a low frequency vibration that is more apparent
>> inside the car than out.
>> 
>> I've changed all the motor mounts, which reduced the interior sensation
>> from almost a buzzing to a less objectionable vibration.
>> 
>> Recently changed spark plugs.  That didn't make any noticeable
>> difference in anything.
>> 
>> Tried unplugging and capping vacuum line to EGR valve, no change (though
>> that doesn't eliminate the possibility of a stuck valve, I guess).
>> 
>> MAF sensor looks clean (but have not tested it electrically).  However
>> that doesn't have much to do with idle does it?
>> 
>> Only filter that is not new/recent is fuel... but if that was restricted
>> I'd have problems at speed more than at idle wouldn't I?
>> 
>> No apparent leaks, tonight I spritzed carb cleaner in all likely areas
>> and the idle didn't change at all.
>> 
>> Otherwise it seems to run well.  Check engine light is not on.  Starts
>> easily, has good power.
>> 
>> Other ideas?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Dan Penoff]

Interesting that you posted this, as I have noticed my wagon doing exactly the 
same thing.

I wonder if it needs wires? Mine doesn't need any of the items you replaced.

I would bring it up at my next stealership oil change, but they would probably 
come back with a litany of repairs it needs.

Dan

On May 16, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> 2003 Focus, DOHC Zetec engine, 150K miles.  Has developed a rough idle,
> actually more like a low frequency vibration that is more apparent
> inside the car than out.
> 
> I've changed all the motor mounts, which reduced the interior sensation
> from almost a buzzing to a less objectionable vibration.
> 
> Recently changed spark plugs.  That didn't make any noticeable
> difference in anything.
> 
> Tried unplugging and capping vacuum line to EGR valve, no change (though
> that doesn't eliminate the possibility of a stuck valve, I guess).
> 
> MAF sensor looks clean (but have not tested it electrically).  However
> that doesn't have much to do with idle does it?
> 
> Only filter that is not new/recent is fuel... but if that was restricted
> I'd have problems at speed more than at idle wouldn't I?
> 
> No apparent leaks, tonight I spritzed carb cleaner in all likely areas
> and the idle didn't change at all.
> 
> Otherwise it seems to run well.  Check engine light is not on.  Starts
> easily, has good power.
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Rick Knoble]

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112445

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243043

Read the very last post. 
http://forums.focaljet.com/team-tech/589679-2003-zx3-vibration-idle-2.html

http://www.fixya.com/cars/t3536097-2003_ford_focus_zx5_engine_vibration

Rick
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On May 16, 2012, at 8:41 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> 2003 Focus, DOHC Zetec engine, 150K miles.  Has developed a rough idle,
> actually more like a low frequency vibration that is more apparent
> inside the car than out.
> 
> I've changed all the motor mounts, which reduced the interior sensation
> from almost a buzzing to a less objectionable vibration.
> 
> Recently changed spark plugs.  That didn't make any noticeable
> difference in anything.
> 
> Tried unplugging and capping vacuum line to EGR valve, no change (though
> that doesn't eliminate the possibility of a stuck valve, I guess).
> 
> MAF sensor looks clean (but have not tested it electrically).  However
> that doesn't have much to do with idle does it?
> 
> Only filter that is not new/recent is fuel... but if that was restricted
> I'd have problems at speed more than at idle wouldn't I?
> 
> No apparent leaks, tonight I spritzed carb cleaner in all likely areas
> and the idle didn't change at all.
> 
> Otherwise it seems to run well.  Check engine light is not on.  Starts
> easily, has good power.
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
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[MBZ] OT: Ford Focus rough/vibrating idle

[Allan Streib]

2003 Focus, DOHC Zetec engine, 150K miles.  Has developed a rough idle,
actually more like a low frequency vibration that is more apparent
inside the car than out.

I've changed all the motor mounts, which reduced the interior sensation
from almost a buzzing to a less objectionable vibration.

Recently changed spark plugs.  That didn't make any noticeable
difference in anything.

Tried unplugging and capping vacuum line to EGR valve, no change (though
that doesn't eliminate the possibility of a stuck valve, I guess).

MAF sensor looks clean (but have not tested it electrically).  However
that doesn't have much to do with idle does it?

Only filter that is not new/recent is fuel... but if that was restricted
I'd have problems at speed more than at idle wouldn't I?

No apparent leaks, tonight I spritzed carb cleaner in all likely areas
and the idle didn't change at all.

Otherwise it seems to run well.  Check engine light is not on.  Starts
easily, has good power.

Other ideas?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ford Focus Engine Mounts

[Dan Penoff]

Ah-ha!

Sounds like the lower mount, probably a "dog bone", may be the culprit. Just 
drove the boy's car this morning, and it rattles like a box of rocks when you 
hit a bump. The noise comes from the driver's side forward of the footwell.

I know it's not the sway bar links, as we replaced those when we bought the car 
last year.

If you haven't already seen it, there is a really good Ford Focus forum I have 
used since we bought these two Focii. Very active, lots of good info.

Been too busy getting moved to do any research - later this week, maybe.

Thanks!

Dan

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On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Dan Penoff  writes:
> 
>> Someone (Allen?) was asking about the subject above recently. I may
>> have to them on my son's 2005 and was curious to hear about any
>> pitfalls, etc.
> 
> Yes.  Have not done them yet.  I did find a summary of the job online
> somewhere, and it didn't sound bad.  Basically slightly raise/support
> the engine, unbolt old mount, bolt on new.  This was for the passenger
> side mount.  There's got to be at least one more on the
> transmission/driver's side, but I have not found much info on that.
> 
> There is also a "anti roll" mount at the bottom center, between engine
> and firewall.  This apparently can pick up rocks or other debris and
> then you get a lot of vibration.  I found a TSB on this linked at the
> Rock Auto website when I was looking up the motor mounts.
> 
> We're not driving the Focus much right now so it's not been a high
> priority.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ford Focus Engine Mounts

[Allan Streib]

Dan Penoff  writes:

> Someone (Allen?) was asking about the subject above recently. I may
> have to them on my son's 2005 and was curious to hear about any
> pitfalls, etc.

Yes.  Have not done them yet.  I did find a summary of the job online
somewhere, and it didn't sound bad.  Basically slightly raise/support
the engine, unbolt old mount, bolt on new.  This was for the passenger
side mount.  There's got to be at least one more on the
transmission/driver's side, but I have not found much info on that.

There is also a "anti roll" mount at the bottom center, between engine
and firewall.  This apparently can pick up rocks or other debris and
then you get a lot of vibration.  I found a TSB on this linked at the
Rock Auto website when I was looking up the motor mounts.

We're not driving the Focus much right now so it's not been a high
priority.

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[MBZ] OT - Ford Focus Engine Mounts

[Dan Penoff]

Someone (Allen?) was asking about the subject above recently. I may have to 
them on my son's 2005 and was curious to hear about any pitfalls, etc.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Curt Raymond]

I had 2 in the last 9 months as rentals. I *think* you need to evaluate each 
specific example on its own rights I don't think you can generalize.
The first one was a real base model, the only options were AC, auto windows and 
the automatic.
I hated it. Rattly, cheap feeling, buzzy on the highway.

The second was up optioned, including satellite radio. I liked it a lot. 
Quieter on the highway, I don't know if it had a bigger engine or what but it 
seemed more powerful.

In neither case did I have a chance to do a lot of driving, just the run from 
the Long Beach airport to Burbank, a little running around Burbank and then 
back to Long Beach.

I will tell you this time last year I had a Hyundai Elantra which I really 
liked, I think its about the same class as the Focus. Much nicer car than the 
Focus in just about every way although the one I had must have been close to 
the top of the line including a sunroof.

The last Civic I drove was in 2002 or thereabouts. I liked it but the seats 
were a little small for my taste, nothing I couldn't live with though. Honda 
people tend to be rabid Honda lovers and Honda dealers appear to go the extra 
mile to make the owners happy. Don't expect any fantastic deals on a new one 
though.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:42:15 -0700
From: Zoltan Finks 
Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus
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Hey all,

Below, I'm pasting in what I wrote in the thread about our 190D starting to
burn oil.

I'm hoping to get any input on newer, and the new Ford Focus.

We have had a 96 or so Civic and wonder how the new ones are too.

But price-wise we would probably not buy a new Civic.

Any experience with the Focus among the group?

Or any other suggestions for a newer compact with good fuel mileage?

Brian



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Jim Cathey]

Wife test drove, among others today, a Honda Fit. I was greatly 
disappointed
to find that it comes with rear drum brakes. I thought we'd be past 
that by
now. Oh, and if you want alloy wheels, get ready to shell out over 
$1100 for

them.


Drum brakes have some advantages, but racing ain't one of 'em.
Alloys?  You have forgotten what new car world is like, it seems.

I'd say just keep flogging the 190D and see what happens.  Could
it be valve stem seals?  If yours is like mine it has a vacuum-
inducing flap in the intake that's there to 'help' the EGR do
its job, so I suppose that (unmolested) it's able to pull more
oil past shot seals than the usual vintage diesel we're all
familiar with.  This is just a guess.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Zoltan Finks]

Yeah, I hate that I'm looking at a Focus as an option.

What I want most, of course, is for our Mercedes to keep working for us.

Wife test drove, among others today, a Honda Fit. I was greatly disappointed
to find that it comes with rear drum brakes. I thought we'd be past that by
now. Oh, and if you want alloy wheels, get ready to shell out over $1100 for
them.

Brian

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:51 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Friends don't let friends drive anything other than MBs -- ask those who
> have survived a major collision in one.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:14 PM, LWB250  wrote:
>
> >
> > If the Focus is anything like the second generation Escort (designed by
> > Mazda) it's a good, economical car with fairly low operating costs.
> >
> > I see plenty of them on the road these days, so that says something, I
> > would think...
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Allan Streib  wrote:
> >
> > > From: Allan Streib 
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus
> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 PM
> >  >
> > > Allan Streib 
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > > We have an '04 Focus...
> > >
> > > Oops no it's an '03.
> > >
> > > Allan
> > >
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> > >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> > Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[OK Don]

Friends don't let friends drive anything other than MBs -- ask those who
have survived a major collision in one.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:14 PM, LWB250  wrote:

>
> If the Focus is anything like the second generation Escort (designed by
> Mazda) it's a good, economical car with fairly low operating costs.
>
> I see plenty of them on the road these days, so that says something, I
> would think...
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Allan Streib  wrote:
>
> > From: Allan Streib 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 PM
>  >
> > Allan Streib 
> > writes:
> >
> > > We have an '04 Focus...
> >
> > Oops no it's an '03.
> >
> > Allan
> >
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>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[LWB250]

If the Focus is anything like the second generation Escort (designed by Mazda) 
it's a good, economical car with fairly low operating costs.

I see plenty of them on the road these days, so that says something, I would 
think...

Dan



--- On Wed, 6/3/09, Allan Streib  wrote:

> From: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:55 PM
> 
> Allan Streib 
> writes:
> 
> > We have an '04 Focus...
> 
> Oops no it's an '03.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Allan Streib]

Allan Streib  writes:

> We have an '04 Focus...

Oops no it's an '03.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Allan Streib]

We have an '04 Focus, mostly trouble free so far at 110K miles.  Had to
charge the AC last week, and we did have one problem with the
transmission, at right around 100K miles, it would not shift properly
unless you disabled overdrive (pushbutton on the shifter).  Turned out
to be a stuck valve, the repair was not expensive and that was at the
dealer.  I had probably let the fluid go to long without changing.

I think the current generation Focus is a new revision of the chassis,
but I'd buy another one (used, most likely, though if you've got the
money you can probably get a deal on a new one these days).  Maybe get
one with a manual trans if you like 'em.

One other issue, the alloy wheels seem a little weak, prone to bending
if you hit anything too hard.

Allan

Zoltan Finks  writes:

> Hey all,
>
> Below, I'm pasting in what I wrote in the thread about our 190D starting to
> burn oil.
>
> I'm hoping to get any input on newer, and the new Ford Focus.
>
> We have had a 96 or so Civic and wonder how the new ones are too.
>
> But price-wise we would probably not buy a new Civic.
>
> Any experience with the Focus among the group?
>
> Or any other suggestions for a newer compact with good fuel mileage?
>
> Brian
>
> We have been looking at Civics, and lusting after a new Insight.
>
> Now we got advice to look into a new Ford Focus - especially in the current
> auto market.
>
> Of course, I also was thinking about fixing the engine and keeping the 190,
> because we love it and already own it. And it's a classic (in my mind) and
> drives and handles great and is more classy and unique than some run of the
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Wonko the Sane]

Co-worker has one (unsure of the year) and it has been bullet-proof. The
driver's seat gave out on her, but that might have been due to other issues
beyond manufacturing and quality control.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

>
> Any experience with the Focus among the group?
>
>
>


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[MBZ] OT Ford Focus

[Zoltan Finks]

Hey all,

Below, I'm pasting in what I wrote in the thread about our 190D starting to
burn oil.

I'm hoping to get any input on newer, and the new Ford Focus.

We have had a 96 or so Civic and wonder how the new ones are too.

But price-wise we would probably not buy a new Civic.

Any experience with the Focus among the group?

Or any other suggestions for a newer compact with good fuel mileage?

Brian

We have been looking at Civics, and lusting after a new Insight.

Now we got advice to look into a new Ford Focus - especially in the current
auto market.

Of course, I also was thinking about fixing the engine and keeping the 190,
because we love it and already own it. And it's a classic (in my mind) and
drives and handles great and is more classy and unique than some run of the
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Allan Streib]

Took it in to the dealer, just no time to mess with it.  MIL was on so
something was wrong.

They determined it was a bad solenoid, replaced and new fluid and filter
for $350.  A bit of a pinch but keeps me off the garage floor for a
weekend.

They did say there was still some "pump noise" and the transmission may
be closer than not to the end of its life (110 K miles, seems low but
then again I'm guilty of pushing the fluid change intervals too far on
that car).

I wonder if Mobil-1 ATF is good in Ford transmissions?

If and when the time comes, anyone know if used transmissions from
places like car-part.com tend to be worth messing with?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond  writes:

> I wouldn't even ask for a diagnosis as thats just going to be "its
> trashed". Get the fluid and filter changed and see what
> happens... Sounds like the sticky valves from my pickup last year.

Yeah googled it a bit and seems it's not an unheard-of problem.
Changing fluid/filter generally seems to help.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Curt Raymond]

I wouldn't even ask for a diagnosis as thats just going to be "its trashed". 
Get the fluid and filter changed and see what happens... Sounds like the sticky 
valves from my pickup last year.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:28:27 -0500
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Further diagnosed the problem, it's limited to the "overdrive."  If I
disable that with the pushbutton on the shifter, all is well.

Hoping it's something minor but dreading the call from the shop: "yew
need a new transmishun" (think of the movie "The Mask")

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Allan Streib]

Further diagnosed the problem, it's limited to the "overdrive."  If I
disable that with the pushbutton on the shifter, all is well.

Hoping it's something minor but dreading the call from the shop: "yew
need a new transmishun" (think of the movie "The Mask")

Allan

Hendrik & Fay  writes:

> Perhaps the linkage is out of adjustment, perhaps the infamous nylon
> bush has made it's way into the Fards.
>
> Hendrik
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>> '02 Ford Focus, automatic.
>>
>> Tranny will "disengage" randomly and the engine will rev.  Then it will
>> "klunk" back into gear.  Only seems to happen in "D" not in "2".
>>
>> Fluid level looks OK.
>>
>> MIL is also illuminated, don't have a code yet.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Hendrik & Fay]

Perhaps the linkage is out of adjustment, perhaps the infamous nylon 
bush has made it's way into the Fards.


Hendrik

Allan Streib wrote:

'02 Ford Focus, automatic.

Tranny will "disengage" randomly and the engine will rev.  Then it will
"klunk" back into gear.  Only seems to happen in "D" not in "2".

Fluid level looks OK.

MIL is also illuminated, don't have a code yet.

Ideas?

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[MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

[Allan Streib]

'02 Ford Focus, automatic.

Tranny will "disengage" randomly and the engine will rev.  Then it will
"klunk" back into gear.  Only seems to happen in "D" not in "2".

Fluid level looks OK.

MIL is also illuminated, don't have a code yet.

Ideas?

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