Last I heard Gates is retired after doing a good job of running a
software business, perhaps he'll go into politics.
Hendrik
with both windoze and a penguin
Russ Williams wrote:
Gates knows Big time that they screwed up with Vista and at least are trying
to correct the problem. We'll have to
So, if I have 4GB ram running XP, I should turn off virtual memory???
Luther
Curt Raymond wrote:
One of the great promises of a 64bit OS is the ability to stack more than 3GB
of RAM into it.
I've talked to guys using one of our video editing softwares that have like
8GB of RAM and they
!
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:34:18 -0500
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wonder if I could do
using XP64 and had more like 8GB of RAM.
-Curt
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 9:46 AM
So, if I have 4GB
is on the
right track.
Remember too this is now the house of Ballmer, no longer the house of Gates...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:27:47 -0500
From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, if I have 4GB ram running XP, I should turn off virtual memory???
Luther
No. Windows *really* likes it's page file. I've turned off virtual memory a
couple of times, in machines with large amounts of RAM (North of 1 GB) and
] wrote:
From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 10:55 AM
Hi Russ,
That doesn't jive well with what I've been told.
New copies of Windows XP ARE available through the OEM
channel right
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:33 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. The school district I worked for has a district image that HP
provides on every computer, which uses XP as the OS. They confirmed that
they could continue to ship machines with XP to us until 2012 or 2014, I
don't recall
See the attachments for instructions.
Luther
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok, downloaded and installed this vmware. Guess I am stupid or what,
but I cant figure out what Im supposed to do next, IE: how it works how
to use it.
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! Download the free version of AVG pronto!
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:34:18 -0500
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Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i don't see how they can not support it given how many people are still
buying systems with it. there is also a service pack 3 for xp, but don't
know much about it other than i have it.
They still support NT 4 for the military.
--
1983 300D
one of its goals is to reduce the size of the kernal dramatically and through
optimization to run better on older hardware. This is something totally new for
Microsoft...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:49:14 -0700
From: Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
hardware. This is something
totally new for Microsoft...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:49:14 -0700
From: Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 8:44 AM
but there really is no reason that you can't just happily run xp
one of its goals is to reduce the size of the kernal dramatically and
through optimization to run better on older hardware. This is
something totally new for Microsoft...
Totally new for them. I won't be surprised if they botch it.
I believe the hardware processor race is slowing down, I'm
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm just appalled at now fast the native hardware is, yet how slow
the user experience often is.
I've often thought the same thing, the hardware is orders of magnitude
faster, yet Windows itself doesn't seem to perform much better than
Windows 95 did on an
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 9:01 AM
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm just
, the promises are more
sane than anything I've ever heard Microsoft give out before.
-Curt
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List
mercedes
for 64bit upgrades later.
Either way I think its coming back to bite them...
-Curt
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: [EMAIL
wonder if I could do a dual boot on this machine? I really hate doing
that though. One other thing, my norton antivirus corporate version I
have will not run on vista, so I bascially only have zone alarm and
thats it running. No AV
Gary Hurst wrote:
emulation stuff is really too damn slow
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:30 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
As you all remember I got this new computer with Vista on it. Well, it
always does these crazy things, like reading a pdf half the time it wont
display it, and/or I get error messages all
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 9:18 AM
The retail Vista package ships with both x86 and x64 versions and the
license to run either but not both. Most
might try that. BTW, walmart has a dell or something they are selling
right now that has xp on it
OK Don wrote:
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
I've had very little trouble with either XP or Vista -
Thats suicide! Download the free version of AVG pronto!
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:34:18 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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people for 64bit upgrades later.
Either way I think its coming back to bite them...
-Curt
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: [EMAIL
got any good recomendations?
Curt Raymond wrote:
Thats suicide! Download the free version of AVG pronto!
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:34:18 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
of Vista? I was given to
understand only one of them (Ulitmate?) came in an x64 version.
-Curt
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes
. Striplin
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wonder if I could do a dual boot on this machine? I really hate doing
that though. One other thing, my norton antivirus corporate version I
have will not run on vista, so I
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Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 9:01 AM
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm just appalled at now fast the native
Your first mistake is considering a computer at Wal-Mart...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:41:25 -0500
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Got 3GB RAM? Might be worth trying. Any less? No.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:48:33 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I already gave you one. Google AVG..
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:51:10 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I only got 2
Curt Raymond wrote:
Got 3GB RAM? Might be worth trying. Any less? No.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:48:33 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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got ya
Curt Raymond wrote:
I already gave you one. Google AVG..
-Curt
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:51:10 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Ok, downloaded and installed this vmware. Guess I am stupid or what,
but I cant figure out what Im supposed to do next, IE: how it works how
to use it.
OK Don wrote:
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
The freebie version only works on Servers, not XP or Vista.
Technically, you need VMWare Workstation. It has a lot more bells and
whistles and is their main moneymaker.
You need a hack to get the server version going on XP or Vista (it works fine):
You need the free server NOT the free player.
http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
Luther
OK Don wrote:
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
I've had very little trouble with either XP or Vista - use
o
Luther wrote:
You need the free server NOT the free player.
http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
Luther
OK Don wrote:
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
I've had very little trouble with
Windows XP is Dead as far as M$ shipping any more copies out.
What the Retailers and Resellers have on hand or Ordered before 30 June
06 is it.
Free Support goes through 2010 after that it will be Paid Support until
2012.
Windows 7 is supposed be released January 09.
The team that's working is
As you all remember I got this new computer with Vista on it. Well, it
always does these crazy things, like reading a pdf half the time it wont
display it, and/or I get error messages all the time. Just things like
that. Not to mention, half the crap I need to run will not run under
vista.
This is why I use a Mac. I can still use almost all my old software
in OS 10.4.11.
Peter
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he is too cheap for a macintosh and too stupid for hackintosh. but conclude
that vista is his answer?
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is why I use a Mac. I can still use almost all my old software
in OS 10.4.11.
Peter
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he is too cheap for a macintosh and too stupid for hackintosh. but conclude
that vista is his answer?
Obviously he should be using Ubuntu, which seems to be the official
Linux distribution of the Okiebenz list if not of its
we tried to get him to use ubuntu, but he seems to fear anything that
doesn't come from microsoft..
it's a lost cause.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he is too cheap for a macintosh
I'm not using Ubuntu on anything right now. Correction -- it is still on the
wife's laptop. My personal laptops are running Mepis 7, PCLOS Gnome 2008,
and antiX.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL
that. Not to mention, half the crap I need to run will not run under
vista. I was able to finally get the EPC to run under vista, but the
WIS will not run. So I have to install it on a XP computer.
Consider one of those virtual PC programs. Then you can install
whatever on whatever it
emulation stuff is really too damn slow
it just sound like he needs to install xp and work from there so he can run
the wis and epc.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that. Not to mention, half the crap I need to run will not run under
vista. I was able
:30 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
As you all remember I got this new computer with Vista on it. Well, it
always does these crazy things, like reading a pdf half the time it wont
display it, and/or I get error messages all the time. Just things like
that. Not to mention, half
Ugh, horrifying.
Mepis all the way. I had Ubuntu on my laptop for a year and a half and hated it.
Mepis on my desktop machine for about 2 years and loving it.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:31:06 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
in the future. Though they will never
say that Linux works.
Douglas
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Subject: [MBZ] OT I think I hate
The emulation programs are plenty fast enough to host an XP virtual
machine on any reasonably fast hardware - as least as far as WIS and
EPC are concerned.
Anyone who's job requires working with computers in an office
environment needs to learn Vista. Like it or not - it is your destiny.
I have no
well, i'm quit to dump microsoft too, so the feeling is mutual.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The emulation programs are plenty fast enough to host an XP virtual
machine on any reasonably fast hardware - as least as far as WIS and
EPC are concerned.
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
I've had very little trouble with either XP or Vista - use both at
work every day since Vista beta 2.
I have Ubuntu on the laptop now, but am thinking Mepis is in it's near
:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT I think I hate vista
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
I've had very little trouble with either XP or Vista - use both at
work every day since Vista beta 2.
I have Ubuntu
is microcenter a white box shop as they still have plenty of xp
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:35 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With the exception of a few white box shops, you can't buy XP on a
new machine now. However, MS will support XP till 2012.
I've had very little trouble with either
emulation stuff is really too damn slow
Really? I use EPC and WIS on this 233 MHz Mac G3.
Emulation, not even native with trap catching. Yes,
it's slow, but it's not too slow to use. Not for that.
At work we use VMWare to run Linux on an XP machine.
The C compiler under linux kicks the
it's pretty subjective. on the new core 2, i can only run really small
versions of linux under emulation and be happy. some guys are just
naturally more happy than i am though.
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
emulation stuff is really too damn slow
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