Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix
Also consider the source, and the likely load. Tens of thousands of almost-synced viewers? More? Content sourcing, and _replication_ can be a major job too. Live game? No time for offline optimization. Actual broadcast has some major advantages. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix
Too right. I spend a bunch of time on this in class. Ethernet has some latency built in to it in the best of times. Makes audio editing difficult, video is bad enough at 30 frames per second, at 96,000 samples a second any serious amount of latency is deadly. -Curt From: Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix Agh. Stupid iPhone. Raw data rate is not all. Period. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Live streams are very very difficult because you can't optimize the compression for whats on the screen. Sports are worse because the screen is constantly changing.Most compression systems don't draw every picture (frame), instead you draw one full frame (an I-frame) and then a series of frames where you draw only whats changed (P-frames, which are predictive) in the picture. Generally you do 15 P-frames for each I-frame. In sports this means you get a lot of smear where stuff changes all over but we only follow the stuff that changes most. Also the requirement for doing this in real time means theres no time to optimize each frame which when done really well can still take significant time even on a really fast machine. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix Last night I watched the ball game on the uverse app on my ipad, streaming the channel which I threw up on the TV through airplay to the appletv. (Aside from the convolutedness of it all, who woulda thunk 20 yr ago you could stream a TV ball game on your phone over some magic phone wire and radio thing through 2 boxes wirelessly connected onto a 70" flat-screen HDTV?) The stream was really crappy, like something on a dial-up connection, except for the adverts which were magically rendered in glorious HD. Not sure why they were choking it so bad (we have uverse TV at the other house so I can get the app and streams of channels, and have just ATT uverse internets here, so same company) but it was not a very good stream even on my internets cnxn which runs 15Mb/s pretty solid. (Netflix and Amazon Prime all come across very nicely) My BIL was here a coupla weeks ago and we watched games the same way using his acct/phone/app and they were quite good, and they have uverse TV too. I'm thinking it was just that channel or the game last night or something as other channels look pretty good. --R On 4/5/16 10:59 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > Network latency, little considered, can have huge effects depending on > protocol and application. Raw data rate is not B/s which is a challenge > even on a 2Gb connection. So they compress the hell out of it to get it > down your teeny pipe. >> >> By comparison DVD is around 6Mb/s. Most cable TV is the same OTA (over the >> air) is usually around 25Mb/s. >> >> >> Curt >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com >> <javascript:;>> >> Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM >> Subject:[MBZ] OT Netflix >> >> I have a 2.5mb connection. In the past even when I had a 18mb >> connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at >> times. Here it would never get over 480. The last week or 2, I have >> been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly >> jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there. It sometimes drops to 780p >> for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 >> connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can >> only figure Netflix has done something on their end. Anyway, just my >> observation. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix
Last night I watched the ball game on the uverse app on my ipad, streaming the channel which I threw up on the TV through airplay to the appletv. (Aside from the convolutedness of it all, who woulda thunk 20 yr ago you could stream a TV ball game on your phone over some magic phone wire and radio thing through 2 boxes wirelessly connected onto a 70" flat-screen HDTV?) The stream was really crappy, like something on a dial-up connection, except for the adverts which were magically rendered in glorious HD. Not sure why they were choking it so bad (we have uverse TV at the other house so I can get the app and streams of channels, and have just ATT uverse internets here, so same company) but it was not a very good stream even on my internets cnxn which runs 15Mb/s pretty solid. (Netflix and Amazon Prime all come across very nicely) My BIL was here a coupla weeks ago and we watched games the same way using his acct/phone/app and they were quite good, and they have uverse TV too. I'm thinking it was just that channel or the game last night or something as other channels look pretty good. --R On 4/5/16 10:59 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Network latency, little considered, can have huge effects depending on protocol and application. Raw data rate is not B/s which is a challenge even on a 2Gb connection. So they compress the hell out of it to get it down your teeny pipe. By comparison DVD is around 6Mb/s. Most cable TV is the same OTA (over the air) is usually around 25Mb/s. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com <javascript:;>> Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM Subject:[MBZ] OT Netflix I have a 2.5mb connection. In the past even when I had a 18mb connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at times. Here it would never get over 480. The last week or 2, I have been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there. It sometimes drops to 780p for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can only figure Netflix has done something on their end. Anyway, just my observation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix
Agh. Stupid iPhone. Raw data rate is not all. Period. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix
Network latency, little considered, can have huge effects depending on protocol and application. Raw data rate is not B/s which is a challenge even on a 2Gb connection. So they compress the hell out of it to get it down your teeny pipe. > > > By comparison DVD is around 6Mb/s. Most cable TV is the same OTA (over the > air) is usually around 25Mb/s. > > > Curt > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com > <javascript:;>> > Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM > Subject:[MBZ] OT Netflix > > I have a 2.5mb connection. In the past even when I had a 18mb > connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at > times. Here it would never get over 480. The last week or 2, I have > been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly > jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there. It sometimes drops to 780p > for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 > connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can > only figure Netflix has done something on their end. Anyway, just my > observation. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix
It's all about compression. Uncompressed HD is around 150MB/s which is a challenge even on a 2Gb connection. So they compress the hell out of it to get it down your teeny pipe. By comparison DVD is around 6Mb/s. Most cable TV is the same OTA (over the air) is usually around 25Mb/s. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM Subject:[MBZ] OT Netflix I have a 2.5mb connection. In the past even when I had a 18mb connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at times. Here it would never get over 480. The last week or 2, I have been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there. It sometimes drops to 780p for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can only figure Netflix has done something on their end. Anyway, just my observation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Netflix
I have a 2.5mb connection. In the past even when I had a 18mb connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at times. Here it would never get over 480. The last week or 2, I have been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there. It sometimes drops to 780p for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can only figure Netflix has done something on their end. Anyway, just my observation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Tim - thanks for your help, I'll take a look! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix We use PlayOn (playon.tv); they recently restructured pricing such that it is $40/year-ish, including support. Basically it is a DLNA server that converts online video in real time and streams it as high -bandwidth MPEG2 within the house network. The PC is in the basement, and then we have PS3s (with the media remotes, so it is a lot like a Tivo) on the TVs as DLNA clients. Any other DLNA client should work as well. For us a big advantage to PlayOn (aside from formal support) is that one server can serve multiple TVs, so SWMBO can watch upstairs while kids watch downstairs. (Another advantage I was not expecting: since the kids know they can watch show X whenever, they wind up not watching at all. We did not get this benefit from Tivo, though I'm not sure why it is different.) There is a plug in for German content, so there might also be Italian; you can look at playonplugins.com. That written, since you have the computer on the (only?) TV already, you might rather look at Boxee or XBMC. One of them might be the better solution for your setup. I have no affiliation with anyone who makes money from any of the above companies, just a happy customer. -Tim Who must admit that, while life is more interesting, it is much harder to keep the house clean when the children do not watch television. On Feb 10, 2011 12:05 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Last I knew, off-topic convo is ok as long as it is marked as such. Have a brandy/martini/glass of wine and mellow a bit, we're all friendly. :) Walt On Feb 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Has noth'n to do with Mercedes. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Torrents only. If you want al jazeera they stream 24/7 online. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ They really are a good source of news. Way better than most of the media whores we have here. On 2/11/2011 5:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Invite sent from thebox.bz -Rolf On 02/10/2011 10:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Rolf wrote: If anyone is looking for BBC stuff I can hook you up with invite a BBC/ITV only site. Does anyone watch Aljazeera English? Give me that invite - I'm interested... I have been hearing that Aljazeera English have the best international coverages of anyone. I guess Burlington, VT is one of the only cities in USA that carries that Aljazeera English. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rolf wrote: Invite sent from thebox.bz Yabbuttt... I don't do tv, so I have nothing to upload. How can I be a member? They explicitly tell me I will be banned if I don't maintain a nice ratio. My ratio will be zero as I have nothing to upload. Tell me more, and... thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. -Rolf On 02/11/2011 01:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Rolf wrote: Invite sent from thebox.bz Yabbuttt... I don't do tv, so I have nothing to upload. How can I be a member? They explicitly tell me I will be banned if I don't maintain a nice ratio. My ratio will be zero as I have nothing to upload. Tell me more, and... thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
-Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Again, Mount/ Relig... FYS Same fuc#ers over and over... I amk sick of i8t.l On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Torrents only. If you want al jazeera they stream 24/7 online. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ They really are a good source of news. Way better than most of the media whores we have here. On 2/11/2011 5:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Has noth'n to do with Mercedes. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Torrents only. If you want al jazeera they stream 24/7 online. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ They really are a good source of news. Way better than most of the media whores we have here. On 2/11/2011 5:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
We use PlayOn (playon.tv); they recently restructured pricing such that it is $40/year-ish, including support. Basically it is a DLNA server that converts online video in real time and streams it as high -bandwidth MPEG2 within the house network. The PC is in the basement, and then we have PS3s (with the media remotes, so it is a lot like a Tivo) on the TVs as DLNA clients. Any other DLNA client should work as well. For us a big advantage to PlayOn (aside from formal support) is that one server can serve multiple TVs, so SWMBO can watch upstairs while kids watch downstairs. (Another advantage I was not expecting: since the kids know they can watch show X whenever, they wind up not watching at all. We did not get this benefit from Tivo, though I'm not sure why it is different.) There is a plug in for German content, so there might also be Italian; you can look at playonplugins.com. That written, since you have the computer on the (only?) TV already, you might rather look at Boxee or XBMC. One of them might be the better solution for your setup. I have no affiliation with anyone who makes money from any of the above companies, just a happy customer. -Tim Who must admit that, while life is more interesting, it is much harder to keep the house clean when the children do not watch television. On Feb 10, 2011 12:05 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
XBox, Wii, and PlayStation game consoles will also let you watch Netflix on your TV, assuming you have internet connectivity to the console. Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: It is served up over a net connection, needs to be fairly fast (my DSL seems to run in the 5Mb range mostly and does OK). If you want to watch it on a TV you need to either drive your TV with a PC (tried that with a Macbook, not a great picture), get an Apple TV box for $100 (does pretty well, not DVD quality but OK for spur of the moment decision to watch something), or buy one of the new DVD players that have Netflix capability (saw on for like $80 in the Sunday paper). The streaming only version of Netflix is I think $9/mo now, a pretty good deal. For streaming plus 2 DVDs out at a time I think it is $13 or 14, still a pretty good deal. DVDs show up in 2-3 days after dropping watched ones in the mailbox. I got the Apple TV box for Christmas, it works on the wifi network in the house, has an occasional hiccup which might be the wifi or the DSL, I don't know as it soon resolves itself, but overall I really like it. With that you can also stream other stuff from a computer(s) on your network, music, photos, or videos that you have in your iTunes on the computer, which is nice too. It is pretty simple to work, and the netflix menus and suggestions are quite nice. It has an HDMI port for the TV (and might have an Svideo) and an optical out for digital sound, and maybe a L/R stereo, you'll have to look at the specs. None of the streaming stuff has surround sound though (at least what I have watched) but I think there might be some vids that do, not sure. My BIL got one of the DVD players, they get netflix and youtube vids on it (the Apple box might do that too, I have not checked). The only annoying thing is if you want to search for something it has a cursor typing interface, which is annoying and slow, but works if you are patient. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Oh, and another thing -- once you have an account it is apparently possible for 2 streams to be going at once, my daughter uses our acct at school and so far there has not been any problem. Two is the limit on the basic account, if you want more you need to upgrade your account. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
If you have an account you can watch the ones that are available for instant download on your computer, he would just have to log in to the account. On 2/9/2011 5:04 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3432 - Release Date: 02/09/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3433 - Release Date: 02/09/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Some blu ray players have netflix built in, you just have to allow access from the netflix account and have an internet connection. You can also do it with the play station and I believe x box. On 2/9/2011 5:11 PM, Mountain Man wrote: John wrote: Mao, it's automatic. If the selection says watch now in blue just click on it. Thanks. Is there tv only netflix? Is there a set-top box installation? Or is it all via internet connection? Well, I also remember that netflix has the snail-mail type distribution also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3432 - Release Date: 02/09/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3433 - Release Date: 02/09/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
We have had three, but all off the same public IP. -Rolf On 02/09/2011 07:01 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Oh, and another thing -- once you have an account it is apparently possible for 2 streams to be going at once, my daughter uses our acct at school and so far there has not been any problem. --R On 2/9/2011 6:04 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yup. PS3 is the way to go. Blue ray player, netflix, hulu, stream divx/avi from your computer AND a can of whip ass on 15yr olds who think they know everything. Whats not to like? -Rolf On 02/10/2011 07:51 AM, Allan Streib wrote: XBox, Wii, and PlayStation game consoles will also let you watch Netflix on your TV, assuming you have internet connectivity to the console. Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: It is served up over a net connection, needs to be fairly fast (my DSL seems to run in the 5Mb range mostly and does OK). If you want to watch it on a TV you need to either drive your TV with a PC (tried that with a Macbook, not a great picture), get an Apple TV box for $100 (does pretty well, not DVD quality but OK for spur of the moment decision to watch something), or buy one of the new DVD players that have Netflix capability (saw on for like $80 in the Sunday paper). The streaming only version of Netflix is I think $9/mo now, a pretty good deal. For streaming plus 2 DVDs out at a time I think it is $13 or 14, still a pretty good deal. DVDs show up in 2-3 days after dropping watched ones in the mailbox. I got the Apple TV box for Christmas, it works on the wifi network in the house, has an occasional hiccup which might be the wifi or the DSL, I don't know as it soon resolves itself, but overall I really like it. With that you can also stream other stuff from a computer(s) on your network, music, photos, or videos that you have in your iTunes on the computer, which is nice too. It is pretty simple to work, and the netflix menus and suggestions are quite nice. It has an HDMI port for the TV (and might have an Svideo) and an optical out for digital sound, and maybe a L/R stereo, you'll have to look at the specs. None of the streaming stuff has surround sound though (at least what I have watched) but I think there might be some vids that do, not sure. My BIL got one of the DVD players, they get netflix and youtube vids on it (the Apple box might do that too, I have not checked). The only annoying thing is if you want to search for something it has a cursor typing interface, which is annoying and slow, but works if you are patient. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
I don't think you can run two streams from the same machine (or at least you used-to-couldn't), so it is an end-to-end connection. In any case the DVD plans have more simultaneous streams, I believe. From watching my incoming traffic I think you could get away with a 512K connection, 1M gives a decent single-stream quality, bigger is better from there. We could not do two high-quality streams consistently on 3M, one or the other would back off - though their algorithms have improved so I might try that again. I have used PlayOn (playon.tv) with Netflix/Hulu/CBS/Nick/PBS/etc. for almost two years, playing over the LAN into PS3s. Happy with it overall; it has become quite stable, but you need a reasonably-decent Windows machine to run it. Of course its lifespan is probably limited since soon other providers will be available directly on the PS3 anyway: Netflix already is, Hulu is if you subscribe to Plus, just Nick/PBS/CBS that we use anymore, and sports if my son/daughter get into that I suppose. Anyway no cable or satellite TV for a long time now, perfectly happy with -that- for sure. :) My PS3s' Blu-ray drives don't work [bought them that way]. I have considered fixing one and getting the game with the 300SL for it, but... -Tim On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: We have had three, but all off the same public IP. -Rolf On 02/09/2011 07:01 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Oh, and another thing -- once you have an account it is apparently possible for 2 streams to be going at once, my daughter uses our acct at school and so far there has not been any problem. --R On 2/9/2011 6:04 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
The 50's 300SL in GT5 is a phenomenal car on the 'ring for its age. It does get a wee squirrely at 140+mph... Best driving sim ever. -Rolf On 02/10/2011 11:10 AM, Tim C wrote: I don't think you can run two streams from the same machine (or at least you used-to-couldn't), so it is an end-to-end connection. In any case the DVD plans have more simultaneous streams, I believe. From watching my incoming traffic I think you could get away with a 512K connection, 1M gives a decent single-stream quality, bigger is better from there. We could not do two high-quality streams consistently on 3M, one or the other would back off - though their algorithms have improved so I might try that again. I have used PlayOn (playon.tv) with Netflix/Hulu/CBS/Nick/PBS/etc. for almost two years, playing over the LAN into PS3s. Happy with it overall; it has become quite stable, but you need a reasonably-decent Windows machine to run it. Of course its lifespan is probably limited since soon other providers will be available directly on the PS3 anyway: Netflix already is, Hulu is if you subscribe to Plus, just Nick/PBS/CBS that we use anymore, and sports if my son/daughter get into that I suppose. Anyway no cable or satellite TV for a long time now, perfectly happy with -that- for sure. :) My PS3s' Blu-ray drives don't work [bought them that way]. I have considered fixing one and getting the game with the 300SL for it, but... -Tim On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: We have had three, but all off the same public IP. -Rolf On 02/09/2011 07:01 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Oh, and another thing -- once you have an account it is apparently possible for 2 streams to be going at once, my daughter uses our acct at school and so far there has not been any problem. --R On 2/9/2011 6:04 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
OK, all this talk has me intrigued. I would really like to get PBS and also Italian channels (like RAI Uno, RAI Due, or RAI World) over the internet (DSL). I've got a decent windows machine connected to my TV. What else do I need, and what would it cost me? HD is nice but not required. -Max From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 11:10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix I don't think you can run two streams from the same machine (or at least you used-to-couldn't), so it is an end-to-end connection. In any case the DVD plans have more simultaneous streams, I believe. From watching my incoming traffic I think you could get away with a 512K connection, 1M gives a decent single-stream quality, bigger is better from there. We could not do two high-quality streams consistently on 3M, one or the other would back off - though their algorithms have improved so I might try that again. I have used PlayOn (playon.tv) with Netflix/Hulu/CBS/Nick/PBS/etc. for almost two years, playing over the LAN into PS3s. Happy with it overall; it has become quite stable, but you need a reasonably-decent Windows machine to run it. Of course its lifespan is probably limited since soon other providers will be available directly on the PS3 anyway: Netflix already is, Hulu is if you subscribe to Plus, just Nick/PBS/CBS that we use anymore, and sports if my son/daughter get into that I suppose. Anyway no cable or satellite TV for a long time now, perfectly happy with -that- for sure. :) My PS3s' Blu-ray drives don't work [bought them that way]. I have considered fixing one and getting the game with the 300SL for it, but... -Tim On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: We have had three, but all off the same public IP. -Rolf On 02/09/2011 07:01 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Oh, and another thing -- once you have an account it is apparently possible for 2 streams to be going at once, my daughter uses our acct at school and so far there has not been any problem. --R On 2/9/2011 6:04 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
NetFlix carries a lot of PBS and BBC programming, National Geographic, etc. though it's mostly a year old or older. All you need to do is sign up for a Netflix account. There's a free trial I think. Not sure what to do about the Italian stuff, though I'd be surprised if it's not available somehow. Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: OK, all this talk has me intrigued. I would really like to get PBS and also Italian channels (like RAI Uno, RAI Due, or RAI World) over the internet (DSL). I've got a decent windows machine connected to my TV. What else do I need, and what would it cost me? HD is nice but not required. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
If anyone is looking for BBC stuff I can hook you up with invite a BBC/ITV only site. -Rolf On 02/10/2011 05:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote: NetFlix carries a lot of PBS and BBC programming, National Geographic, etc. though it's mostly a year old or older. All you need to do is sign up for a Netflix account. There's a free trial I think. Not sure what to do about the Italian stuff, though I'd be surprised if it's not available somehow. Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: OK, all this talk has me intrigued. I would really like to get PBS and also Italian channels (like RAI Uno, RAI Due, or RAI World) over the internet (DSL). I've got a decent windows machine connected to my TV. What else do I need, and what would it cost me? HD is nice but not required. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Can you watch on an iPhone? :) i've been trying to watch Dr who and torchwood, but it gets darned expensive when you live in an area that where the only legal cable is comcast, so don't even think about fios or fios tv. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 10, 2011, at 17:55, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: If anyone is looking for BBC stuff I can hook you up with invite a BBC/ITV only site. -Rolf On 02/10/2011 05:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote: NetFlix carries a lot of PBS and BBC programming, National Geographic, etc. though it's mostly a year old or older. All you need to do is sign up for a Netflix account. There's a free trial I think. Not sure what to do about the Italian stuff, though I'd be surprised if it's not available somehow. Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: OK, all this talk has me intrigued. I would really like to get PBS and also Italian channels (like RAI Uno, RAI Due, or RAI World) over the internet (DSL). I've got a decent windows machine connected to my TV. What else do I need, and what would it cost me? HD is nice but not required. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You can watch on an iPod Touch, so I would assume you also can on an iPhone. On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:47 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Can you watch on an iPhone? :) i've been trying to watch Dr who and torchwood, but it gets darned expensive when you live in an area that where the only legal cable is comcast, so don't even think about fios or fios tv. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rolf wrote: If anyone is looking for BBC stuff I can hook you up with invite a BBC/ITV only site. Does anyone watch Aljazeera English? Give me that invite - I'm interested... I have been hearing that Aljazeera English have the best international coverages of anyone. I guess Burlington, VT is one of the only cities in USA that carries that Aljazeera English. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you can, and also on the ipad On 2/10/2011 6:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote: You can watch on an iPod Touch, so I would assume you also can on an iPhone. On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:47 -0500, John Reamesjwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Can you watch on an iPhone? :) i've been trying to watch Dr who and torchwood, but it gets darned expensive when you live in an area that where the only legal cable is comcast, so don't even think about fios or fios tv. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3434 - Release Date: 02/10/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3434 - Release Date: 02/10/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Netflix
I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Mao, it's automatic. If the selection says watch now in blue just click on it. John On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
John wrote: Mao, it's automatic. If the selection says watch now in blue just click on it. Thanks. Is there tv only netflix? Is there a set-top box installation? Or is it all via internet connection? Well, I also remember that netflix has the snail-mail type distribution also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
It is served up over a net connection, needs to be fairly fast (my DSL seems to run in the 5Mb range mostly and does OK). If you want to watch it on a TV you need to either drive your TV with a PC (tried that with a Macbook, not a great picture), get an Apple TV box for $100 (does pretty well, not DVD quality but OK for spur of the moment decision to watch something), or buy one of the new DVD players that have Netflix capability (saw on for like $80 in the Sunday paper). The streaming only version of Netflix is I think $9/mo now, a pretty good deal. For streaming plus 2 DVDs out at a time I think it is $13 or 14, still a pretty good deal. DVDs show up in 2-3 days after dropping watched ones in the mailbox. I got the Apple TV box for Christmas, it works on the wifi network in the house, has an occasional hiccup which might be the wifi or the DSL, I don't know as it soon resolves itself, but overall I really like it. With that you can also stream other stuff from a computer(s) on your network, music, photos, or videos that you have in your iTunes on the computer, which is nice too. It is pretty simple to work, and the netflix menus and suggestions are quite nice. It has an HDMI port for the TV (and might have an Svideo) and an optical out for digital sound, and maybe a L/R stereo, you'll have to look at the specs. None of the streaming stuff has surround sound though (at least what I have watched) but I think there might be some vids that do, not sure. My BIL got one of the DVD players, they get netflix and youtube vids on it (the Apple box might do that too, I have not checked). The only annoying thing is if you want to search for something it has a cursor typing interface, which is annoying and slow, but works if you are patient. --R On 2/9/2011 6:11 PM, Mountain Man wrote: John wrote: Mao, it's automatic. If the selection says watch now in blue just click on it. Thanks. Is there tv only netflix? Is there a set-top box installation? Or is it all via internet connection? Well, I also remember that netflix has the snail-mail type distribution also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh, and another thing -- once you have an account it is apparently possible for 2 streams to be going at once, my daughter uses our acct at school and so far there has not been any problem. --R On 2/9/2011 6:04 PM, Mountain Man wrote: I was visiting with a friend - amazing, eh?, I have a friend... yesterday for lunch. He was mentioning that his high school son pays for his own netflix and watches it. He is wondering if there is an arrangement to be purchased that would allow him to port that account over to his computer monitor? Have any of you geeks here ever that? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have Comcast cable and a Netflix subscription. I have a purpose-built PC running XP and feeding a 50 Panasonic Viera Plasma TV. We can run cable, Internet TV of any variety or recordings on the HD of the computer made using a Silicondust external tuner and Snapstream BeyondTV software. We can also receive Netflix on any other PC in the house. If anyone is interested in this type of setup I will be happy to provide further information. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix It is served up over a net connection, needs to be fairly fast (my DSL seems to run in the 5Mb range mostly and does OK). If you want to watch it on a TV you need to either drive your TV with a PC (tried that with a Macbook, not a great picture), get an Apple TV box for $100 (does pretty well, not DVD quality but OK for spur of the moment decision to watch something), or buy one of the new DVD players that have Netflix capability (saw on for like $80 in the Sunday paper). The streaming only version of Netflix is I think $9/mo now, a pretty good deal. For streaming plus 2 DVDs out at a time I think it is $13 or 14, still a pretty good deal. DVDs show up in 2-3 days after dropping watched ones in the mailbox. I got the Apple TV box for Christmas, it works on the wifi network in the house, has an occasional hiccup which might be the wifi or the DSL, I don't know as it soon resolves itself, but overall I really like it. With that you can also stream other stuff from a computer(s) on your network, music, photos, or videos that you have in your iTunes on the computer, which is nice too. It is pretty simple to work, and the netflix menus and suggestions are quite nice. It has an HDMI port for the TV (and might have an Svideo) and an optical out for digital sound, and maybe a L/R stereo, you'll have to look at the specs. None of the streaming stuff has surround sound though (at least what I have watched) but I think there might be some vids that do, not sure. My BIL got one of the DVD players, they get netflix and youtube vids on it (the Apple box might do that too, I have not checked). The only annoying thing is if you want to search for something it has a cursor typing interface, which is annoying and slow, but works if you are patient. --R On 2/9/2011 6:11 PM, Mountain Man wrote: John wrote: Mao, it's automatic. If the selection says watch now in blue just click on it. Thanks. Is there tv only netflix? Is there a set-top box installation? Or is it all via internet connection? Well, I also remember that netflix has the snail-mail type distribution also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It is served up over a net connection, needs to be fairly fast (my DSL seems to run in the 5Mb range mostly and does OK). We get maybe 1.2MB, and it works for us so far. If you want to watch it on a TV you need to either drive your TV with a PC (tried that with a Macbook, not a great picture), get an Apple TV box for $100 (does pretty well, not DVD quality but OK for spur of the moment decision to watch something), or buy one of the new DVD players that have Netflix capability (saw on for like $80 in the Sunday paper). Or a TV with it built in, like our 54 Panasonic Viera. (There are a lot of models.) The streaming only version of Netflix is I think $9/mo now, $8, I think. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The internet providers (DSL and cable) are gonna start making you pay for all that bandwidth you suck up with vids. They are squealing about it to the FCC or whoever covers them. Expect a net provider bail out soon. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. -- My mom has it and loves it. You do need a reliable high-speed connection, I think, for it to work well---she has cable internet. I suspect it wouldn't work so well with DSL or satellite. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas wrote: The internet providers (DSL and cable) are gonna start making you pay for all that bandwidth you suck up with vids. They are squealing about it to the FCC or whoever covers them. Expect a net provider bail out soon. Alltel specifically says my cellular modem is NOT for video. Verizon and Sprint just cap your monthly bandwidth (Verizon charges you a fortune for exceeding 5GB, Sprint cancels you if you make a habit of using too much) and AFAIK don't care what you do with the bandwidth. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Its called net neutrality. One of the biggest ripoffs since Al Gore invented the internet. -Rolf Rich Thomas wrote: The internet providers (DSL and cable) are gonna start making you pay for all that bandwidth you suck up with vids. They are squealing about it to the FCC or whoever covers them. Expect a net provider bail out soon. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. -- My mom has it and loves it. You do need a reliable high-speed connection, I think, for it to work well---she has cable internet. I suspect it wouldn't work so well with DSL or satellite. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rolf wrote: Its called net neutrality. One of the biggest ripoffs since Al Gore invented the internet. I never read into all that much, but I could never tell if net neutrality was good or bad. Does it require ISPs to treat all types of data traffic as the same? ie, they can't limit BitTorrent traffic by itself? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What they are attempting to do is charge you based on the type and quantity of data not just the throughput. Everyones ISP is based on throughput but sometimes they cap the quantity. This is net neutral billing as it doesn't matter what type of billing is occurring. What has happened is the longhaul/backhaul people (ATT biggest proponent) want to charge the ISP's based on the type of data. Claiming that things like video streaming and torrent traffic are eating up all the BW and that it is more costly for them to gauruntee bandwidth like business transactions (that they already bill higher for). What it comes down to is that the internet providers wants us, the consumer, to pay more becuase they have spent decades overbilling us by over subscribing their product. Now that we can actually use the BW they promised us all along, they want us to pay more for it. It would could also allow for taxation of the internet for different rates based on the type of bandwidth used. It is basically a net provider bailout. -Rolf John Robbins wrote: Rolf wrote: Its called net neutrality. One of the biggest ripoffs since Al Gore invented the internet. I never read into all that much, but I could never tell if net neutrality was good or bad. Does it require ISPs to treat all types of data traffic as the same? ie, they can't limit BitTorrent traffic by itself? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Correction: This is net neutral billing as it doesn't matter what type of bandwidth usage is occurring. Rolf wrote: What they are attempting to do is charge you based on the type and quantity of data not just the throughput. Everyones ISP is based on throughput but sometimes they cap the quantity. This is net neutral billing as it doesn't matter what type of billing is occurring. What has happened is the longhaul/backhaul people (ATT biggest proponent) want to charge the ISP's based on the type of data. Claiming that things like video streaming and torrent traffic are eating up all the BW and that it is more costly for them to gauruntee bandwidth like business transactions (that they already bill higher for). What it comes down to is that the internet providers wants us, the consumer, to pay more becuase they have spent decades overbilling us by over subscribing their product. Now that we can actually use the BW they promised us all along, they want us to pay more for it. It would could also allow for taxation of the internet for different rates based on the type of bandwidth used. It is basically a net provider bailout. -Rolf John Robbins wrote: Rolf wrote: Its called net neutrality. One of the biggest ripoffs since Al Gore invented the internet. I never read into all that much, but I could never tell if net neutrality was good or bad. Does it require ISPs to treat all types of data traffic as the same? ie, they can't limit BitTorrent traffic by itself? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. -- My mom has it and loves it. You do need a reliable high-speed connection, I think, for it to work well---she has cable internet. I suspect it wouldn't work so well with DSL or satellite. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Okay, thats what my understanding was. So does the net neutrality bill prevent the billing based on data type or allow it. John Rolf wrote: What they are attempting to do is charge you based on the type and quantity of data not just the throughput. Everyones ISP is based on throughput but sometimes they cap the quantity. This is net neutral billing as it doesn't matter what type of billing is occurring. What has happened is the longhaul/backhaul people (ATT biggest proponent) want to charge the ISP's based on the type of data. Claiming that things like video streaming and torrent traffic are eating up all the BW and that it is more costly for them to gauruntee bandwidth like business transactions (that they already bill higher for). What it comes down to is that the internet providers wants us, the consumer, to pay more becuase they have spent decades overbilling us by over subscribing their product. Now that we can actually use the BW they promised us all along, they want us to pay more for it. It would could also allow for taxation of the internet for different rates based on the type of bandwidth used. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not sure which one is up, I think there has been proposals both ways. -Rolf John Robbins wrote: Okay, thats what my understanding was. So does the net neutrality bill prevent the billing based on data type or allow it. John Rolf wrote: What they are attempting to do is charge you based on the type and quantity of data not just the throughput. Everyones ISP is based on throughput but sometimes they cap the quantity. This is net neutral billing as it doesn't matter what type of billing is occurring. What has happened is the longhaul/backhaul people (ATT biggest proponent) want to charge the ISP's based on the type of data. Claiming that things like video streaming and torrent traffic are eating up all the BW and that it is more costly for them to gauruntee bandwidth like business transactions (that they already bill higher for). What it comes down to is that the internet providers wants us, the consumer, to pay more becuase they have spent decades overbilling us by over subscribing their product. Now that we can actually use the BW they promised us all along, they want us to pay more for it. It would could also allow for taxation of the internet for different rates based on the type of bandwidth used. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My wife and I have all but tossed out satellite box out the window. We watch netflix every night on the laptop (19 screen its a behometh). The starz selection of movies is great. They could still work on their selection a lot though. We are seriously considering the box and moving the flat screen into the bedroom. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well Im thinking they dont have anything for instant download that is HD, but it will play it when they come out with it. I suppose a person could use it for standard def stuff and still have blu ray disks mailed. Rolf wrote: My wife and I have all but tossed out satellite box out the window. We watch netflix every night on the laptop (19 screen its a behometh). The starz selection of movies is great. They could still work on their selection a lot though. We are seriously considering the box and moving the flat screen into the bedroom. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Also, each major network (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC) all have most of their prime time shows available in HD anytime you want it. That's how I watch my TV. The only thing that is missing is live sports... Luther Rolf wrote: My wife and I have all but tossed out satellite box out the window. We watch netflix every night on the laptop (19 screen its a behometh). The starz selection of movies is great. They could still work on their selection a lot though. We are seriously considering the box and moving the flat screen into the bedroom. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anybody on netflix have one of those instant player things they are selling that I guess downloads movies instantly from the internet? Though about trying one but curious if anybody else has. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
