Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-28 Thread archer
Thanks Craig, Phillip, and Dave. Gerry From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:47:26 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: rsync is a command line tool. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. And in case you want a

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread Fmiser
archer wrote: I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers. When something is added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd. When something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd; i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other; just

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread archer
archer wrote: I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers. When something is added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd. When something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd; i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other; just like in

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread Brian Toscano
: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:02:06 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. archer wrote: I would like

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread archer
From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com Why not use Apple's Time Machine and an Apple Time Capsule? Keeps a backup of data automatically wirelessly. G: That's an idea. Would remove some cable clutter as well as a standalone router, if I understand correctly. You could even use Mobile

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread LWB250
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 8:49 AM From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com Why not use Apple's Time Machine and an Apple Time Capsule?  Keeps a backup of data automatically

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread Brian Toscano
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. I would discourage anyone from using the cloud (Mobile Me) for backups, as your space is limited and bandwidth is going to be an issue, especially if you have a big backup. I have been a .mac/Mobile Me user for years, but primarily

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread redghost
OS x plays well with hardware that approximates that used in a Mac. The more off standard you go, the less likely it will install and run as it should. Large community of hackers out there making all the odd hardware more compatible. I am running 10.5.8 on a dell tower. Many work

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread archer
A hackintosh 10.5.8 on a dell tower? Does it work well? Gerry From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. OS

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread Fmiser
archer wrote: I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers. When something is added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd. When something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd; i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other;

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:47:26 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: rsync is a command line tool. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. And in case you want a script to run it, here's one I use. Craig --- cut here - #!/bin/sh # # rsp # # A

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread Dave Walton
You still need to make periodic point-in-time backups and archive them. If you do not detect data corruption until after you sync the images (very likely), you will replicate the bad data and destroy the good data on the mirror. -Dave Walton On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Fmiser

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-27 Thread redghost
: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. OS x plays well with hardware that approximates that used in a Mac. The more off standard you go, the less likely it will install and run as it should. Large community of hackers out there making all the odd hardware more compatible. I am

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread John Reames
And vista can do NFS... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 26, 2010, at 0:26, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: archer wrote: I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley
John Reames wrote: And vista can do NFS... Does XP have any problems with NTFS? I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead
Probably a limitation of the software. NTFS is the native file system for winders 2000, XP and all later M$ OS. I don't know of anything within NTFS that would limit the file size, unless a policy is set to limit user file space, but that should limit the overall file space, not per file

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread archer
- Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. archer wrote: I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread archer
archer wrote: I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other? rant mode Apple made the original PC. PC = Personal Computer. As opposed to a main frame or server. And now the hardware isn't even really that different. So a

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:06:01 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: John Reames wrote: And vista can do NFS... Does XP have any problems with NTFS? I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread LWB250
Gerry, I think you'll be hard pressed to fid a way to do this as you describe, without a lot of tinkering on the back ends of both OS'. The simplest way, IMHO, is to go with NAS (network attached storage) such as a RAID or Drobo and just have separate partitions set up for each OS.  To mirror

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Brian Toscano
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Gerry, I think you'll be hard pressed to fid a way to do this as you describe, without a lot of tinkering on the back ends of both OS'. The simplest way, IMHO, is to go with NAS (network attached storage

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread archer
As a newby to Macbooks, thought I'd ask if there was a simple way to hook an apple os/hd to an MS os/hd such that each could be the backup for the other in case one self destructed. Apparently there isn't. I'll read up on NAS, RAID, and DROBO; and probably set up something like that. Here

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Unless I'm mistake, the Mac will read/write a MS format disk (this works fine with USB flash drives) so just use a disk formated on the PC, hook up to the Mac as needed. You will not be able to inter-operate programs, of course, but data will be readable on both machines if the same

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread John Reames
NFS != NTFS. NFS is more comparable to SMB/CIFS. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:20, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:06:01 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: John Reames wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Message-ID:     aanlktimlat13kibo5stb6isspagxawbf8bikbqfyt...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Philip, Watch this, you'll split your sides. http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content Walt

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Fmiser
Mitch Haley wrote: I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software. I'm pretty sure NTFS is limited to 4G -- Philip ___

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Message-ID: a06240813c84baee73...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Probably a limitation of the software.  NTFS is the native file system for  winders 2000, XP and all

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread LarryT
-- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. John Reames wrote: And vista can do NFS... Does XP have any problems with NTFS? I formated

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
9 minutes... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35:53 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Message-ID: 20100626183553.489fc67d.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead
recent development that Linux boxes can write to NTFS its quite possible they're using an older implementation. -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:26:43 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead
is to capture from a DV camcorder for more than 9 minutes... -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35:53 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Message-ID: 20100626183553.489fc67d.fmi

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Allan Streib
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35 -0500, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure NTFS is limited to 4G It's not, but FAT (the legacy DOS filesystem) might have been. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread dave walton
You can initialize an NTFS disk with an MBR or GPT partition table. MBR can't see past 2Tb. GPT can. The current implementation of NTFS is limited to 4 million clusters. If you use 512 byte sectors, that limits the partition size to 2Tb. You need to increase the cluster size if you need a larger

[MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread E M
I thought I'd ask the group, as many of you seem quite knowledgeable on all things computers. I currently have a PC, but I'm thinking about going back to Macs next time. Anyway, I want to get an external drive, (1-2 TB). I see several advertised as being PC/Mac compatible. I'm interesting in a

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Jun 2010 13:27:39 -0400 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ]  OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Message-ID:     aanlktim-hy7ivjqpcmqkxvypeo5v4-aoa48-qcbcg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought I'd

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Newegg had a 1 or 1.5Tb drive with an external enclosure thrown in the other day, for cheap money, they have a 2Tb drive for $110 now. I'm not sure about swapping between the two unless you set it up as some sort of network drive. --R On 6/25/2010 1:27 PM, E M wrote: I thought I'd ask the

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:27 PM, E M wrote: I thought I'd ask the group, as many of you seem quite knowledgeable on all things computers. SNIP Thanks everyone, Ed 300E Ed, Here is the solution to your needs: http://www.newertech.com/products/gmax.php . I have one sitting on my desk

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Dieselhead
For being neat, it is hard to beat a Mac. Fewer wires to start with. I bought a macbook a little over a year ago, and it is great. I loaded XP Pro on it as a dual boot (bootcamp) but rarely use XP. I miss the ping and tracert function I could use in the Winders CMD command line but that is

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread E M
Thanks everyone, some good suggestions!! Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread E M
One thing I was told when looking at an iMac 27, was that the built in cam would not work with MSN. Not sure what the problem is, but they said MSN works fine with an external cam, just not the built in one. The suggestion of an external cam didn't work for me, as it defeats the purpose of

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Brian Toscano
Jun 2010 14:09:49 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. One thing I was told when looking at an iMac 27, was that the built in cam would not work with MSN. Not sure

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: For being neat, it is hard to beat a Mac. Fewer wires to start with. I bought a macbook a little over a year ago, and it is great. I loaded XP Pro on it as a dual boot (bootcamp) but rarely use XP. I miss the ping and

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread John Reames
Get a run of the mill USB external HDD. Format it as FAT32. (Macs don't usually like NTFS, PCs don't usually like HFS) Be aware that FAT32 may require partitioning the drive into multiple chunks, but I have a 500GB as FAT32. FAT32 also cannot have any single file that is larger than about 4GB.

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread John Reames
Iirc the network control panel has some of the ping/traceroute (not tracert!) functionality, and other bits may be in rhe applications/utilities folder. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 25, 2010, at 14:20, Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Curt Raymond
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content. Message-ID: a06240802c84a9be6b...@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed For being neat, it is hard to beat a Mac.  Fewer wires to start with. I bought a macbook a little over

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread archer
I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com For being neat, it is hard to beat a Mac. Fewer wires to

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Mitch Haley
archer wrote: I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other? Thanks, Gerry Hmmm network them and them map a backup to a network virtual drive on the other computer? ___

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Dieselhead
there, applicationsutilities Ping = Ping but it pings forever, control C breaks out Tracert = Trace Route Ipconfig = ifconfig -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:53:53 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Dieselhead
No, I have been missing something. I figured there was a way.I just found terminal and did a ping, but it said tracert was unknown. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: For being neat, it is hard to beat a Mac. Fewer wires to start with. I bought a

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:32:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, Thanks. What little unix i used to know is mostly forgotten, and was not network related. I will probably remember rm forever because it took me a very long time to find out. not at all intuitive to me. rm

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:28:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: No, I have been missing something. I figured there was a way.I just found terminal and did a ping, but it said tracert was unknown. traceroute is the Unix command. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Dieselhead
Delete was obvious, I don't remember what apple-DOS was but it was not remove. I had never heard the term remove a file Delete or trash a file, yes. On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:32:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, Thanks. What little unix i used to know is mostly

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Delete was obvious, I don't remember what apple-DOS was but it was not remove. I had never heard the term remove a file Delete or trash a file, yes. It's English. You rarely use Delete in a non-computer sentence, after all... Delete had a rather specific meaning on the early Unix

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey
No, I have been missing something. I figured there was a way.I just found terminal and did a ping, but it said tracert was unknown. What the heck is tracert anyway? Traceroute is the original Unix utility, from the original implementation of IP. Oh wait, too many characters for DOS!

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I miss the ping and tracert function I could use in the Winders CMD command line but that is about all, and I only need them when the internet is down. Mac OSX has both CLI and GUI tools for this. Your choice. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Fmiser
archer wrote: I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other? rant mode Apple made the original PC. PC = Personal Computer. As opposed to a main frame or server. And now the hardware isn't even really that different.

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Philip, Watch this, you'll split your sides. http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content Walt On Jun 26, 2010 12:29 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: archer wrote: I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running XP. Is th... rant mode Apple

Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-25 Thread Fmiser
Dieselhead wrote: No, I have been missing something. I figured there was a way.I just found terminal and did a ping, but it said tracert was unknown. The tab key is your friend. I believe the default shell is now bash, which means at any point in the command you can press tab and it

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2010-06-25 Thread OK Don
I thought the origial PC ws the Altair --- On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: rant mode Apple made the original PC. PC = Personal Computer. As opposed to a main frame or server. And now the hardware isn't even really that different. So a new PC could be