Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 10:04:28 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: > In general, game is much leaner than agribiz raised meat. This requires > different cooking techniques to even be edible. If it can be prepared > rare, like venison or wood duck, it will be tender and delicious. > Otherwise, a wet cooking is better. Venison sausage requires plenty of > pork fat. Chili made with venison is great. Attaching an email from Curt: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Air fryers now Sous Vide Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:17:46 + (UTC) I've never tried it but I figured it'd be good for wild game that can be tough. -Curt On Friday, February 2, 2018, 12:15:49 PM EST, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: I first encountered sous vide done at a restaurant with a duck recipe. It was great! I have since experimented quite a bit, using a simple setup involving a cheap slow-cooker with a highly accurate temperature control device. It is especially good for chicken breast, cooking perfectly and producing always tender juicy results. Using thickness, time, and temperature charts; meats can be pasteurized so they can be refrigerated for several weeks and reheated/seared later. Excellent for camping trips for instance. Also really good for meats with lots of tough connective tissue. Low and slow can be 24 hrs. or better for brisket or pork shoulder. Something like a flatiron steak can be made tender but still rare. You have to be careful not to make it too tender! Yes, browning is necessary but can be done later with a quick sear on a cast iron or steel pan, or with a torch. Delve into food science a bit. Greg Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose
We did 20# batches with 16# of venison and 4# of pork fat. The breakfast sausage got an extra pound of fat, we figured you'd want your breakfast sausage a little fattier... -Curt On Friday, April 10, 2020, 1:05:24 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: In general, game is much leaner than agribiz raised meat. This requires different cooking techniques to even be edible. If it can be prepared rare, like venison or wood duck, it will be tender and delicious. Otherwise, a wet cooking is better. Venison sausage requires plenty of pork fat. Chili made with venison is great. G. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose My FIL would go goose hunting every winter on the Eastern Shore and bring some of them back. His suggestion was to marinate them in red wine and some other stuff for a coupla days then roast them like a turkey but not too well done. They were tough and did not have much flavor, and yes it was like a cheap cut of beef, plus you had to be careful not to crunch a tooth on the shot pellets. He thought it was great, mostly I guess because he shot them and put them on the table, everyone else just humored him. Even the dog wouldn't eat it... It might be good in a sausage though, never thought of that. It was not too gamey, maybe the marinating helped that, so the flavor wasn't bad. It would be interesting to put one on the smoke for 8hr or so. --FT On 4/10/20 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I have heard that also. Ben's wife makes jerky out of it. Or at least I've >heard she does, I've had 2 geese worth of meat there since October... > A lot of folks seem to make pastrami out of it, I watched a Youtube video on > it not long ago. I've also seen a guy roast one, he suggested the trick was > to get it to medium rare. It looked like beef when he sliced into it. > Wild game cooks differently, when people treat it like store bought meat > they're disappointed. I've enjoyed cooking the venison we got last fall. I > have to remind myself "stop at rare" and it comes out great. When I've had > venison in the past I'd cook until medium and it was gamey... > > -Curt > > On Friday, April 10, 2020, 10:55:33 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-04-10 09:33, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Buddy Ben may have gotten us a gig shooting geese at a dairy farm. > Some people tell me goose isn't very good eating. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose
In general, game is much leaner than agribiz raised meat. This requires different cooking techniques to even be edible. If it can be prepared rare, like venison or wood duck, it will be tender and delicious. Otherwise, a wet cooking is better. Venison sausage requires plenty of pork fat. Chili made with venison is great. G. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose My FIL would go goose hunting every winter on the Eastern Shore and bring some of them back. His suggestion was to marinate them in red wine and some other stuff for a coupla days then roast them like a turkey but not too well done. They were tough and did not have much flavor, and yes it was like a cheap cut of beef, plus you had to be careful not to crunch a tooth on the shot pellets. He thought it was great, mostly I guess because he shot them and put them on the table, everyone else just humored him. Even the dog wouldn't eat it... It might be good in a sausage though, never thought of that. It was not too gamey, maybe the marinating helped that, so the flavor wasn't bad. It would be interesting to put one on the smoke for 8hr or so. --FT On 4/10/20 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I have heard that also. Ben's wife makes jerky out of it. Or at least I've > heard she does, I've had 2 geese worth of meat there since October... > A lot of folks seem to make pastrami out of it, I watched a Youtube video on > it not long ago. I've also seen a guy roast one, he suggested the trick was > to get it to medium rare. It looked like beef when he sliced into it. > Wild game cooks differently, when people treat it like store bought meat > they're disappointed. I've enjoyed cooking the venison we got last fall. I > have to remind myself "stop at rare" and it comes out great. When I've had > venison in the past I'd cook until medium and it was gamey... > > -Curt > > On Friday, April 10, 2020, 10:55:33 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-04-10 09:33, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Buddy Ben may have gotten us a gig shooting geese at a dairy farm. > Some people tell me goose isn't very good eating. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose
I'll do a whole chicken or small turkey with some rosemary, garlic, lemon, olive oil and some other spices like herb d'provence under the skin to keep it moist, it comes out very juicy and tender, but the geese have little fat so you would have to take that into consideration. Maybe wrap it in butcher paper for most of the time then open it to the smoke for an hour or two --FT On 4/10/20 12:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm thinking if we get a bunch I'll run some up to my buddy Jon (The Butt Stops Here, Swanzy, NH) and see what his artistry on the smoker can do. -Curt On Friday, April 10, 2020, 12:03:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: My FIL would go goose hunting every winter on the Eastern Shore and bring some of them back. His suggestion was to marinate them in red wine and some other stuff for a coupla days then roast them like a turkey but not too well done. They were tough and did not have much flavor, and yes it was like a cheap cut of beef, plus you had to be careful not to crunch a tooth on the shot pellets. He thought it was great, mostly I guess because he shot them and put them on the table, everyone else just humored him. Even the dog wouldn't eat it... It might be good in a sausage though, never thought of that. It was not too gamey, maybe the marinating helped that, so the flavor wasn't bad. It would be interesting to put one on the smoke for 8hr or so. --FT On 4/10/20 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I have heard that also. Ben's wife makes jerky out of it. Or at least I've heard she does, I've had 2 geese worth of meat there since October... > A lot of folks seem to make pastrami out of it, I watched a Youtube video on it not long ago. I've also seen a guy roast one, he suggested the trick was to get it to medium rare. It looked like beef when he sliced into it. > Wild game cooks differently, when people treat it like store bought meat they're disappointed. I've enjoyed cooking the venison we got last fall. I have to remind myself "stop at rare" and it comes out great. When I've had venison in the past I'd cook until medium and it was gamey... > > -Curt > > On Friday, April 10, 2020, 10:55:33 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > On 2020-04-10 09:33, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Buddy Ben may have gotten us a gig shooting geese at a dairy farm. > Some people tell me goose isn't very good eating. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose
I'm thinking if we get a bunch I'll run some up to my buddy Jon (The Butt Stops Here, Swanzy, NH) and see what his artistry on the smoker can do. -Curt On Friday, April 10, 2020, 12:03:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: My FIL would go goose hunting every winter on the Eastern Shore and bring some of them back. His suggestion was to marinate them in red wine and some other stuff for a coupla days then roast them like a turkey but not too well done. They were tough and did not have much flavor, and yes it was like a cheap cut of beef, plus you had to be careful not to crunch a tooth on the shot pellets. He thought it was great, mostly I guess because he shot them and put them on the table, everyone else just humored him. Even the dog wouldn't eat it... It might be good in a sausage though, never thought of that. It was not too gamey, maybe the marinating helped that, so the flavor wasn't bad. It would be interesting to put one on the smoke for 8hr or so. --FT On 4/10/20 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I have heard that also. Ben's wife makes jerky out of it. Or at least I've >heard she does, I've had 2 geese worth of meat there since October... > A lot of folks seem to make pastrami out of it, I watched a Youtube video on > it not long ago. I've also seen a guy roast one, he suggested the trick was > to get it to medium rare. It looked like beef when he sliced into it. > Wild game cooks differently, when people treat it like store bought meat > they're disappointed. I've enjoyed cooking the venison we got last fall. I > have to remind myself "stop at rare" and it comes out great. When I've had > venison in the past I'd cook until medium and it was gamey... > > -Curt > > On Friday, April 10, 2020, 10:55:33 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-04-10 09:33, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Buddy Ben may have gotten us a gig shooting geese at a dairy farm. > Some people tell me goose isn't very good eating. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too! now cooking your goose
My FIL would go goose hunting every winter on the Eastern Shore and bring some of them back. His suggestion was to marinate them in red wine and some other stuff for a coupla days then roast them like a turkey but not too well done. They were tough and did not have much flavor, and yes it was like a cheap cut of beef, plus you had to be careful not to crunch a tooth on the shot pellets. He thought it was great, mostly I guess because he shot them and put them on the table, everyone else just humored him. Even the dog wouldn't eat it... It might be good in a sausage though, never thought of that. It was not too gamey, maybe the marinating helped that, so the flavor wasn't bad. It would be interesting to put one on the smoke for 8hr or so. --FT On 4/10/20 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I have heard that also. Ben's wife makes jerky out of it. Or at least I've heard she does, I've had 2 geese worth of meat there since October... A lot of folks seem to make pastrami out of it, I watched a Youtube video on it not long ago. I've also seen a guy roast one, he suggested the trick was to get it to medium rare. It looked like beef when he sliced into it. Wild game cooks differently, when people treat it like store bought meat they're disappointed. I've enjoyed cooking the venison we got last fall. I have to remind myself "stop at rare" and it comes out great. When I've had venison in the past I'd cook until medium and it was gamey... -Curt On Friday, April 10, 2020, 10:55:33 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On 2020-04-10 09:33, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Buddy Ben may have gotten us a gig shooting geese at a dairy farm. Some people tell me goose isn't very good eating. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
