Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
Probably your modem negotiates with whatever the next thing is upstream and that box kept your configuration. If its their box they've probably got some little note in the ToS that allows for it. We've got a storage system that has a little Linux computer (or 2 for redundancy) onboard. If the computer fails you get a replacement, hot swap it into the box, it picks up your software version and configuration from a saved copy and configures itself. It sits and churns for about 15 minutes and then is ready to use again. Compared to the old days when new hardware meant between 9 and 25 minutes of staring, hoping, praying the system would accept a manual update this is indeed magik and well appreciated. -Curt On Thursday, August 20, 2020, 4:25:26 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: It's a Uverse modem, I plugged it into the line, it churned and blinked for a few minutes then all was well. I had the computer plugged in directly, phone etc are on wifi. I don't know how it did it, but it made my life simpler I guess. Maybe they knew this modem was for me, or maybe it just talked to their network and it knew it was mine as it was on my line. F'n Majick however it was done. I boxed up the old one to send back, there are a coupla little bits inside rattling around, probably something that got blown off the circuit board or something. --FT On 8/20/20 3:56 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> Was AT storing the settings in their cloud and the new one automatically >> downloaded it all and reset itself? > Horses, not zebras. The necessary settings could have been on your computer > and applied. > Or yes, they could have come from the other end of the link. Not necessarily > very far away > as these things go. No need for a nebulous cloud. Especially if this is a > proprietary modem. > What is the nature of the physical link? Did they know for whom the > replacement was destined? > Could have been pre-configured before being shipped. > > -- Jim > -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
It's a Uverse modem, I plugged it into the line, it churned and blinked for a few minutes then all was well. I had the computer plugged in directly, phone etc are on wifi. I don't know how it did it, but it made my life simpler I guess. Maybe they knew this modem was for me, or maybe it just talked to their network and it knew it was mine as it was on my line. F'n Majick however it was done. I boxed up the old one to send back, there are a coupla little bits inside rattling around, probably something that got blown off the circuit board or something. --FT On 8/20/20 3:56 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Was AT storing the settings in their cloud and the new one automatically downloaded it all and reset itself? Horses, not zebras. The necessary settings could have been on your computer and applied. Or yes, they could have come from the other end of the link. Not necessarily very far away as these things go. No need for a nebulous cloud. Especially if this is a proprietary modem. What is the nature of the physical link? Did they know for whom the replacement was destined? Could have been pre-configured before being shipped. -- Jim -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
> Was AT storing the settings in their cloud and the new one automatically > downloaded it all and reset itself? Horses, not zebras. The necessary settings could have been on your computer and applied. Or yes, they could have come from the other end of the link. Not necessarily very far away as these things go. No need for a nebulous cloud. Especially if this is a proprietary modem. What is the nature of the physical link? Did they know for whom the replacement was destined? Could have been pre-configured before being shipped. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
So the new modem came today, plugged it in, it sorted itself out in a few minutes and I was back online. The instructions said to put the new one next to the old one and it would transfer settings over. Well, I couldn't do that since the old one was fried. So I was going to try to configure it to what my old modem's settings were, names and passwords and such, but lo somehow or other it booted up with exactly the same settings as the old one had. How did that happen? Was AT storing the settings in their cloud and the new one automatically downloaded it all and reset itself? THAT is weird and somewhat unsettling. --FT On 8/20/20 2:24 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I flipped breakers after unplugging delicate electronics from the wall in preparation The (unplugged) power cord _alone_ is enough of an antenna to destroy sensitive electronics if the lightning strike is close enough. Lightning is the original 500# Gorilla. It sleeps wherever it wants to. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
I think we were preoccupied by fear before the lightning strike. It was almost dark, even at midday, the wind was very loud, the raindrops actually hurt, and we had no visual references.. The excitement was really in retrospect. The "bang" was really loud and I think it stunned us, like a "flash-bang" grenade. We only realized what happened after the fact when we regained our senses. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 7:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Buggered Benzmail Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit Wow, that must have been *exciting* --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > My most exciting (and odd) lightning encounter was in a 30 ft. sail boat > returning from the Destin inlet. A storm came up suddenly so we motored > under full power into the wind (under bare poles). The rain was so dense we > could not even see the bow so we steered by compass. The flash and bang were > simultaneous. Folks in the cockpit pointed forward at the very close > lightning strike. Folks in the cabin pointed aft, also at a very close > strike. Either there were two simultaneous lightning bolts or one bolt split > and hit in front and behind us. I remembered the hair on my arms standing up > just before the lightning strike. As the rain abated we saw we had been > blown backwards about 1/4 mile despite using full power. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
Wow, that must have been *exciting* --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 20, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > My most exciting (and odd) lightning encounter was in a 30 ft. sail boat > returning from the Destin inlet. A storm came up suddenly so we motored > under full power into the wind (under bare poles). The rain was so dense we > could not even see the bow so we steered by compass. The flash and bang were > simultaneous. Folks in the cockpit pointed forward at the very close > lightning strike. Folks in the cabin pointed aft, also at a very close > strike. Either there were two simultaneous lightning bolts or one bolt split > and hit in front and behind us. I remembered the hair on my arms standing up > just before the lightning strike. As the rain abated we saw we had been > blown backwards about 1/4 mile despite using full power. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
My most exciting (and odd) lightning encounter was in a 30 ft. sail boat returning from the Destin inlet. A storm came up suddenly so we motored under full power into the wind (under bare poles). The rain was so dense we could not even see the bow so we steered by compass. The flash and bang were simultaneous. Folks in the cockpit pointed forward at the very close lightning strike. Folks in the cabin pointed aft, also at a very close strike. Either there were two simultaneous lightning bolts or one bolt split and hit in front and behind us. I remembered the hair on my arms standing up just before the lightning strike. As the rain abated we saw we had been blown backwards about 1/4 mile despite using full power. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
Yabbut my neighbors aren’t corrupt criminals --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 19, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > If you live in a nice neighborhood like me you wouldn't have to put up with > such danger and inconvenience. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:50 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper >> that was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit >> by lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house so >> the strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or >> something I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I >> was sitting so I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again. >> >> This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning >> induces a high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I >> need an arrestor or surge suppressor or something on the network interface >> but it doesn’t sink in. So they send me a new modem every couple of years. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
If you live in a nice neighborhood like me you wouldn't have to put up with such danger and inconvenience. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 6:50 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper > that was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit > by lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house so > the strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or > something I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I > was sitting so I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again. > > This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning > induces a high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I > need an arrestor or surge suppressor or something on the network interface > but it doesn’t sink in. So they send me a new modem every couple of years. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
I lost a tree a couple weeks ago to a lightening strike. And 500 bucks to get it down and cleaned up. I lose a DSL modem periodically. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
Half a second sound like 1/10 of a mile or so. My parents took a direct hit to the transformer once, about 70' from the breaker box. I had to go out there in the storm, shut down their Generac backup and restart it, it was running but the transfer switch hadn't engaged, so it was merrily burning propane to no good purpose at 1am. Amazingly enough, turning the genset off and back on fixed that, and when they got a new transformer that afternoon everything in the house seemed to be OK. IIRC the fuse was blown between the transmission line and the transformer, but when they replaced the fuse it just blew again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT lightning hit
Lightning surges can come through _any_ wire into a device. You might not think that a 1-turn transformer would be very effective, but with literally millions of amps flowing through the primary circuit (air to ground strike), and if it's not too far away... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT lightning hit
Was sitting at my desk At the computer yesterday during a thunderwhumper that was rolling through. Got a big ZAP right there, thought I had been hit by lightning, heard the boom a half second later back behind the house so the strike was very close by. Not sure what it hit, tree in the woods or something I guess. Fried my uverse modem which is about 6ft from where I was sitting so I’m thinking it came through the (buried) phone line. Again. This is like the fifth time this has happened, I guess the lightning induces a high voltage spike in the line. I try to tell the ATT people I need an arrestor or surge suppressor or something on the network interface but it doesn’t sink in. So they send me a new modem every couple of years. --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
