Use the Industrial ES-12….it’s a lot colder. You’ll havce to spring for hazmat
shipping, but it’s worth it.
I’ve used both.
AND, order it directly from the factory.
On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> What is the R12 replacement based on propane that people here on the list
>
That's the other one I could not think of
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> On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> ES-12 aka Envirosafe
> www.autorefrigerants.com
>
> Alex Chamberlain
> apchamberl...@gmail.com
> Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse brevity and typos.
>
Enviro-Safe.
http://www.es-refrigerants.com/
http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm
Rick
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:31 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
> What is the R12 replacement based on propane that people here on the list
> have been using?
>
> I can't recall the name.
>
> I
ES-12 aka Envirosafe
www.autorefrigerants.com
Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.com
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On Oct 30, 2013 11:31 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
> What is the R12 replacement based on propane that people here on the list
> have b
Dura cool, auto frost, there are several
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> On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
> What is the R12 replacement based on propane that people here on the list
> have been using?
>
> I can't recall the name.
>
> I have a coworker who is into old Toyotas, and he ha
What is the R12 replacement based on propane that people here on the list have
been using?
I can't recall the name.
I have a coworker who is into old Toyotas, and he has one that needs some major
AC work and he doesn't want to convert it to R134a due to the crappy
performance he's seen in simi
rumor has it that Trampas wrote:
> My understanding is that a lot of the R12 replacement is a mixture of
> propane and butane, thus flammable. I use duracool in my cars which is this
> propane/butane stuff, it works great and does not require any changes of
> hoses or oil. There is some debate on
than gasoline under 60psi of pressure.
Trampas
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R12 replacement
Will probably buy a case of that stuff
Will probably buy a case of that stuff and give it a try
Fmiser wrote:
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:
Do you have to use different hoses? Was reading up on it and some
people are saying that you need different hoses because it has R22 in
it. Freeze12 is R134 mixed with I think 142 or someth
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:
> Do you have to use different hoses? Was reading up on it and some
> people are saying that you need different hoses because it has R22 in
> it. Freeze12 is R134 mixed with I think 142 or something like that.
>
> Fmiser wrote:
> > At some time fairly close to W
Is there a good way to tell if its been converted to 134?
It's supposed to have different fittings screwed into it.
Another way is if the system fails grotesquely in a year or two.
If so, it was converted! (Yes, I have an opinion. I un-converted
the latest 560 SL we bought.)
-- Jim
Could someone confirm for me which hose is which? I.e. I don't
suppose that
nice easy to reach hose on top of my 83' 300D happens to be the low
side?
It is, in fact. The high-side fitting is underneath the alternator.
(Stupid place!) When in doubt, follow the hoses from the compressor.
The o
Do you have to use different hoses? Was reading up on it and some
people are saying that you need different hoses because it has R22 in
it. Freeze12 is R134 mixed with I think 142 or something like that.
Fmiser wrote:
At some time fairly close to Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500,
rumor has it
No, I intalled it by weight.
Joe Knight wrote:
I'm wondering if you maybe didn't just overcharge with duracool,
Kaleb. IIRC, quantities & charge pressure are supposed to be
considerably lower with HC replacements.
joe
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Low side is larger diameter...
Bob Rentfro
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From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R12 replacement
Speaking of AC...
Co
At some time fairly close to Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500,
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:
> Ok, so whats the best alternative to R12 rather than converting to 134?
> Tried duracool and last time I ordered it stuff didnt seem to work
> hardly at all. Have a couple of virgin r12 systems that
Speaking of AC...
Could someone confirm for me which hose is which? I.e. I don't suppose that
nice easy to reach hose on top of my 83' 300D happens to be the low side?
Mine had R134 when I got it and I just bought a can and a hose with a gauge
on it for $17 that says to be sure I avoid the high s
I'm wondering if you maybe didn't just overcharge with duracool,
Kaleb. IIRC, quantities & charge pressure are supposed to be
considerably lower with HC replacements.
joe
Hey Kaleb,
Try this stuff:
http://www.autocool-refrigerants.com/envirosafe_tech.htm
:)
-dm
> --
> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] R12 replacement
>
>
> Ok,
I'm in pretty much the same boat, my 190D's AC gets sort of cool but thats it,
I expect its low.
Is there a good way to tell if its been converted to 134?
-Curt
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 21:23:13 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject
I think a 30lb equivalent of R406a is about $200 delivered. The two can
kit is way high, something like $50 for two cans, tapper, and fittings.
Homebrew is about $8 per fillup. Right around what you used to
be able to do R12 for.
-- Jim
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
>
> Ok, so whats the best alternative to R12 rather than converting to 134?
Autofrost R406A?
I think Duracool and Envirosafe are among the propane/isobutane blends.
Jim Cathey seems to like him homeblended iso/propane nix, maybe it's
just too hot where you are? As deman
Ok, so whats the best alternative to R12 rather than converting to 134?
Tried duracool and last time I ordered it stuff didnt seem to work
hardly at all. Have a couple of virgin r12 systems that need to be
recharged and want to try something else? Freeze12? Dont think I like
the envirosafe
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