Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
I'm not following your math. Even if you could possibly use every drop of the tank capacity, with a 23 gallon tank and 400 miles, you get around 17.4 mpg. 400/23 = 17.39 At 250 per tank, you're down to about 11mpg. Unless I've been doing this wrong for years Dan On Sep 1, 2014, at 12:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: so that would make it 18-28mpg clay On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: 23 gallon tank. Ballparking it you're probably getting in the mid to upper teens, I would guess. Dan On Aug 29, 2014, at 3:21 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: No, per tank. I wish I got 25 and 40. Not been paying attention to tank size or mileage other than how far I get on a tank On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: 250? 400? Would you mean 25 and 40, possibly? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:55 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
I drive downhill both directions clay On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm not following your math. Even if you could possibly use every drop of the tank capacity, with a 23 gallon tank and 400 miles, you get around 17.4 mpg. 400/23 = 17.39 At 250 per tank, you're down to about 11mpg. Unless I've been doing this wrong for years Dan On Sep 1, 2014, at 12:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: so that would make it 18-28mpg clay On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: 23 gallon tank. Ballparking it you're probably getting in the mid to upper teens, I would guess. Dan On Aug 29, 2014, at 3:21 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: No, per tank. I wish I got 25 and 40. Not been paying attention to tank size or mileage other than how far I get on a tank On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: 250? 400? Would you mean 25 and 40, possibly? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:55 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
Dan, I assumed Clay would fill the tank when the low fuel light came on, so roughly 20 gallons per fill. 400/20 = 20 mpg on the highway, 250/20 = 12.5 in town. If he refills earlier, less fuel can fit into the tank, so mpg would be higher. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
250? 400? Would you mean 25 and 40, possibly? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:55 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
Miles on a tank of fuel??? On 29/08/2014 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: 250? 400? Would you mean 25 and 40, possibly? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:55 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
23 gallon tank. Ballparking it you're probably getting in the mid to upper teens, I would guess. Dan On Aug 29, 2014, at 3:21 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: No, per tank. I wish I got 25 and 40. Not been paying attention to tank size or mileage other than how far I get on a tank On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: 250? 400? Would you mean 25 and 40, possibly? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:55 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
Transmission wicking. Whazzat? On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:43 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
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