Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That sounds like quite a reasonable price.
Installation labor shouldn't be too hard to do yourself, then take it to an AC 
place to have them vacuum it down and charge, or just get it vacuumed down and 
charge it yourself, thats pretty easy too. Don't forget some new oil.
-Curt

  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!
   
I was able to locate a compressor kit.  The compressor is even new.  It comes 
with a new drier, and new orifice tube and all the o rings.  It was $200.  I am 
not sure what it would cost for labor. I have to figure out whether it is worth 
it to fix.  When I drive it when its 90+ degrees outside, it sure feels like it 
would be worth the money.  But, I rarely drive it.  It has 147,000 miles.  But 
for three seasons of the year, I don't need air.  The kid who had it before me 
spent money putting in a whole new exhaust. I wish he would have spent the 
money on the a/c.  It sits a lot, but whenever I need it, it starts right up no 
problem.  It's a dependable old work truck.  

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From: Peter Frederick [mailto:psf...@earthlink.net] 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is that an expansion valve or an orifice tube/accumulator system?  If it's an 
orifice tube (a common system these days, cycles the clutch by low side 
pressure) you will need to flush the whole system out if the screen is plugged, 
replace the trashed compressor (where all the crap came from) and put a filter 
in the high side line so it won't clog up again.

Probably need a filter in the low side line as well since it's impossible to 
flush all the crud out of a multi-tube type evaporator
-- no filter, you trash a new compressor right away and end up where you 
started.

This is why my Volvo didn't have AC, too hard to find a compressor for it.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-08 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
You could put it all in yourself easy enough then just take it to the 
shop to get evacuated and filled.


--JC


On 6/8/16 11:20 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I was able to locate a compressor kit.  The compressor is even new.  It comes 
with a new drier, and new orifice tube and all the o rings.  It was $200.  I am 
not sure what it would cost for labor. I have to figure out whether it is worth 
it to fix.  When I drive it when its 90+ degrees outside, it sure feels like it 
would be worth the money.  But, I rarely drive it.  It has 147,000 miles.  But 
for three seasons of the year, I don't need air.  The kid who had it before me 
spent money putting in a whole new exhaust. I wish he would have spent the 
money on the a/c.   It sits a lot, but whenever I need it, it starts right up 
no problem.  It's a dependable old work truck.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Frederick [mailto:psf...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:44 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is that an expansion valve or an orifice tube/accumulator system?  If it's an 
orifice tube (a common system these days, cycles the clutch by low side 
pressure) you will need to flush the whole system out if the screen is plugged, 
replace the trashed compressor (where all the crap came from) and put a filter 
in the high side line so it won't clog up again.

Probably need a filter in the low side line as well since it's impossible to 
flush all the crud out of a multi-tube type evaporator
-- no filter, you trash a new compressor right away and end up where you 
started.

This is why my Volvo didn't have AC, too hard to find a compressor for it.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-08 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I was able to locate a compressor kit.  The compressor is even new.  It comes 
with a new drier, and new orifice tube and all the o rings.  It was $200.  I am 
not sure what it would cost for labor. I have to figure out whether it is worth 
it to fix.  When I drive it when its 90+ degrees outside, it sure feels like it 
would be worth the money.  But, I rarely drive it.  It has 147,000 miles.  But 
for three seasons of the year, I don't need air.  The kid who had it before me 
spent money putting in a whole new exhaust. I wish he would have spent the 
money on the a/c.   It sits a lot, but whenever I need it, it starts right up 
no problem.  It's a dependable old work truck.  

-Original Message-
From: Peter Frederick [mailto:psf...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:44 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is that an expansion valve or an orifice tube/accumulator system?  If it's an 
orifice tube (a common system these days, cycles the clutch by low side 
pressure) you will need to flush the whole system out if the screen is plugged, 
replace the trashed compressor (where all the crap came from) and put a filter 
in the high side line so it won't clog up again.

Probably need a filter in the low side line as well since it's impossible to 
flush all the crud out of a multi-tube type evaporator
-- no filter, you trash a new compressor right away and end up where you 
started.

This is why my Volvo didn't have AC, too hard to find a compressor for it.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Is that an expansion valve or an orifice tube/accumulator system?  If  
it's an orifice tube (a common system these days, cycles the clutch by  
low side pressure) you will need to flush the whole system out if the  
screen is plugged, replace the trashed compressor (where all the crap  
came from) and put a filter in the high side line so it won't clog up  
again.


Probably need a filter in the low side line as well since it's  
impossible to flush all the crud out of a multi-tube type evaporator  
-- no filter, you trash a new compressor right away and end up where  
you started.


This is why my Volvo didn't have AC, too hard to find a compressor for  
it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Compressor started to shuck it's self.. debris clogged the expansion
valve.. a known choke point on Ford systems.. or.. expansion valve simply
collapsed.. also known to happen..

If the expansion valve is clogged.. the coolant doesn't circulate, so the
compressor doesn't have anything to pump.. gauges sould show a high/low
split that isn't showing, If I read your posts correctly?

Lay your hand on the hoses with the compressor running.. should feel one of
them cooler.. not cooling.. it's not circulating.. Either way.. you have to
evacuate the system.. to open it and change out the expansion valve [which
has a screen built into it to capture debris.. if it's clean.. compressor
time.. or clutch time..

Clutch should be made to cycle with a 12 volt jumper wire, into the one
wire spade connector at back of clutch.. Apply 12 volts.. clutch should
lock up and turning compressor by hand will tell you if it's locked up..
[remove belt to do this].

HTH  [Hope this Helps]

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't know if the compressor is doing anything.  I was expecting to see
> the pressure drop but it never did.  I don't have any actual set of gauges
> I was just using the one that was on the can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joel Cairo [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:22 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!
>
> Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If not,
> it is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching the
> compressor shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor is
> shot)?  Do you have gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the pressures
> are changing when the clutch engages?  When I put in refrigerant and the
> clutch engages, the pressure drops by maybe half when the compressor is
> working.
>
> --R
>
> On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> > Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I
> guess Dan has invited it.
> >
> > I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to
> get the a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that
> the clutch was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could
> jumper the Low Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it
> is low on Freon.  It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the
> Switch.   So, I figured I had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to
> go ahead and try to fill it up anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45
> pound of pressure (when it was almost 90 degrees outside).  The compressor
> wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and they looked ago.  I replace the
> fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the hammer and gave the
> compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it turning.  It
> started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning and was
> a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was spinning
> without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, it
> was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.
>  I am wondering if I have:
> >
> > Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?
> >
> > A bad compressor?
> >
> > A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?
> >
> > Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to
> the floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is
> okay.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Don Snook
> > Two BMW 7 series
> > 92 Ford F-150
> > 2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
> > To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com>
> > Subject: Snook Needs Help!
> >
> > Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some
> Frod truck people here….
> >
> > Donald, ask away!!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com<mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com>>
> > Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> > Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> > To: Dan Penoff <dpen...@verizon.net<mailto:dpen...@verizon.

Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
That one will show the pressure dropping when the clutch engages if it 
is actually making the compressor compress.  I think that is when it 
sucks the gas in too, at least mine does that.  Are you revving the 
engine at 2000 rpm or so?  AC on high, fan all the way up?  You want the 
compressor running always or most of the time, which it should do if it 
is hot and you have things turned all the way up, and it needs some rpms 
to get things compressing.  At least that is how my systems work(ed).


If it is not really compressing I wonder if something in the system is 
messed up, the valve (I forget what that is called, expansion valve?), 
in which case it could just be circulating refrigerant and no cooling 
going on.


--R


On 6/7/16 4:38 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know if the compressor is doing anything.  I was expecting to see the 
pressure drop but it never did.  I don't have any actual set of gauges I was 
just using the one that was on the can.

-Original Message-
From: Joel Cairo [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:22 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If not, it 
is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching the compressor 
shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor is shot)?  Do you have 
gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the pressures are changing when the 
clutch engages?  When I put in refrigerant and the clutch engages, the pressure 
drops by maybe half when the compressor is working.

--R

On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
Dan has invited it.

I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get the 
a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the clutch 
was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper the Low 
Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low on Freon.  
It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, I figured I 
had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try to fill it up 
anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when it was almost 
90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and 
they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the 
hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it 
turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning 
and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was 
spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, 
it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.   I 
am wondering if I have:

Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?

A bad compressor?

A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?

Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.

Any thoughts?

Don Snook
Two BMW 7 series
92 Ford F-150
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)



From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com>
Subject: Snook Needs Help!

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan



Begin forwarded message:

From: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com<mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com>>
Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
To: Dan Penoff <dpen...@verizon.net<mailto:dpen...@verizon.net>>

My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
A/c issue I am trying to figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I don't know if the compressor is doing anything.  I was expecting to see the 
pressure drop but it never did.  I don't have any actual set of gauges I was 
just using the one that was on the can.  

-Original Message-
From: Joel Cairo [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:22 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If not, it 
is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching the compressor 
shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor is shot)?  Do you have 
gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the pressures are changing when the 
clutch engages?  When I put in refrigerant and the clutch engages, the pressure 
drops by maybe half when the compressor is working.

--R

On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
> Dan has invited it.
>
> I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get 
> the a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the 
> clutch was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper 
> the Low Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low 
> on Freon.  It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, 
> I figured I had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try 
> to fill it up anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when 
> it was almost 90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked 
> the fuses and they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway. 
>  I got out the hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I 
> could get it turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It 
> started turning and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed 
> out and was spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of 
> air flow. But, it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but 
> no cold air.   I am wondering if I have:
>
> Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?
>
> A bad compressor?
>
> A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?
>
> Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
> floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Don Snook
> Two BMW 7 series
> 92 Ford F-150
> 2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
>
>
>
> From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com>
> Subject: Snook Needs Help!
>
> Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
> truck people here….
>
> Donald, ask away!!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com<mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com>>
> Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> To: Dan Penoff <dpen...@verizon.net<mailto:dpen...@verizon.net>>
>
> My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
> didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
> A/c issue I am trying to figure out.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Any thoughts?


I think you need a gauge set!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If 
not, it is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching 
the compressor shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor 
is shot)?  Do you have gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the 
pressures are changing when the clutch engages?  When I put in 
refrigerant and the clutch engages, the pressure drops by maybe half 
when the compressor is working.


--R

On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
Dan has invited it.

I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get the 
a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the clutch 
was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper the Low 
Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low on Freon.  
It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, I figured I 
had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try to fill it up 
anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when it was almost 
90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and 
they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the 
hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it 
turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning 
and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was 
spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, 
it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.   I 
am wondering if I have:

Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?

A bad compressor?

A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?

Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.

Any thoughts?

Don Snook
Two BMW 7 series
92 Ford F-150
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)



From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Snook Needs Help!

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan



Begin forwarded message:

From: Donald Snook >
Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
To: Dan Penoff >

My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
A/c issue I am trying to figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
Dan has invited it.

I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get the 
a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the clutch 
was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper the Low 
Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low on Freon.  
It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, I figured I 
had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try to fill it up 
anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when it was almost 
90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and 
they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the 
hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it 
turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning 
and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was 
spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, 
it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.   I 
am wondering if I have:

Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?

A bad compressor?

A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?

Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.

Any thoughts?

Don Snook
Two BMW 7 series
92 Ford F-150
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)



From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Snook Needs Help!

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan



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From: Donald Snook >
Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
To: Dan Penoff >

My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
A/c issue I am trying to figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Well, this Ford truck guy now just takes it to the dealer (or would if
there had been any reason to).

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some
> Frod truck people here….
>
> Donald, ask away!!
>
> Dan
>
>
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Donald Snook 
> > Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> > Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> > To: Dan Penoff 
> >
> > My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?
> I didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I
> have an A/c issue I am trying to figure out.
> >
>
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[MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

2016-06-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Donald Snook 
> Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> To: Dan Penoff 
> 
> My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
> didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
> A/c issue I am trying to figure out. 
> 

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