Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
We did that the first five years of marriage, and that included two kids diapers. Clothes came out just as clean. That was during the late 1950s. Gerry > I saw something a coupla months ago, maybe in the paper, that the > current moderne laundry detergents work just as well in cold water as in

Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True. In fact, it's been this way for some time with the HE (high efficiency) front loaders. If you dig into the details, "hot" is relatively cool. I have used liquid detergent and the energy saving cycle in our front loader for at least 10 years. It does a fine job for the most part. If I've

Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I saw something a coupla months ago, maybe in the paper, that the current moderne laundry detergents work just as well in cold water as in warm/hot water (this from a laundry detergent specialist). (And you don't need a lot of it.) So now I use cold to wash and rinse. I can't tell any

Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW By British beer - it's meant to be drunk at room temperature. On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Merce

Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
By British beer - it's meant to be drunk at room temperature. On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On January 10, 2016 at 2:59 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > I think very few homes that were

Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think very few homes that were designed and built to be on the electrical grid will have any reasonable chance of going "off grid" without radical lifestyle changes, like taking your dirty clothes to a laundry-mat, hand-washing your dishes, and installing gas-powered stove-top / oven /

Re: [MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 10, 2016 at 2:59 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I think very few homes that were designed and built to be on the electrical > grid will have any reasonable chance of going "off grid" without radical > lifestyle changes, like taking your dirty

[MBZ] Solar FWIW

2016-01-09 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
>From another list: > The enemy to solar here is the (electricity) delivery fees.  My first year I > was getting paid back $30 every month. Now the delivery fees are $69 per > month.  That means now I am always paying over $100 per month instead of them > paying me.  My ROI is not that great.