Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Thanks for the tip, and following comments.. As of NOW.. my label maker has produced a sign that says "All conversations are being actively recorded within 10 feet of this vehicle" One reason for my purchase of the rear view mirror stem mount is that it allows the camera to be easily re-directed

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 19 May 2016 08:49:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > The Cone of Silence Be sure to Get Smart and make sure the controls will be inside the cone when it lowers so you can get out ... Craig > --BB > > On 5/19/16 8:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > True, however

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If you insist on having a conversation where others nearby can overhear it, you don't. If you're standing off by yourselves and somebody uses a shotgun microphone on you from a distance, you do. I'd say that hidden microphones designed to pick up otherwise private conversations would fall into the

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The Cone of Silence --BB On 5/19/16 8:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: True, however, there were instances where people were purposefully shielding their conversations so others around them couldn’t hear. Some were even attorney-client conversations, and the FBI knew this. These were t

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True, however, there were instances where people were purposefully shielding their conversations so others around them couldn’t hear. Some were even attorney-client conversations, and the FBI knew this. These were the conversations the FBI wanted, so I think there’s a clear effort on their par

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I believe the concept is that when you are in public you have no reasonable expectation of privacy --R On 5/19/16 7:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: And what about the FBI bugging the courthouse steps in California? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/feds-bugged-steps-of-silicon-

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And what about the FBI bugging the courthouse steps in California? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/feds-bugged-steps-of-silicon-valley-courthouse/ Dan > On May 19, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Mitch

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On May 19, 2016 at 2:04 AM fmiser via Mercedes wrote:However, if you know, and you are talking to a LEO, or otherdriver, or drive-through cashier it probably is admissibleevidence.Since the Glick case in MA a few years ago, it's well established in the federal courts that you have a First Amendme

Re: [MBZ] Sound recording - was: Model 211 elec bus

2016-05-18 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> G wrote: > > There is also a sound / microphone feature.. could be > handy unless your last words prior to the wreck were > "hold my beer and watch this, Bubba. " As of a decade or so ago, in most states, at least one party in a conversation has to know the sound is being recorded. That me