Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-12 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Take it to Randy in Silver Spring. 301-585-6464. On Nov 12, 2014 2:01 PM, "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" wrote: > Which means he does not know what he is doing. > > --R > > > On 11/12/14 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Another update: Rick (tech) installed the new line and road t

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-12 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Which means he does not know what he is doing. --R On 11/12/14 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Another update: Rick (tech) installed the new line and road tested the car. Had intermittent hard pedal action, which was cured by pumping. Now he thinks it's a "lazy" vacuum pump.

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The check valve is toast. On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Before Rick throws more parts at it, you may want to make an agreement >> with >> him that you will not pay for replacing the vacuum pump if

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Before Rick throws more parts at it, you may want to make an agreement with him that you will not pay for replacing the vacuum pump if the problem remains after he installs the new pump. In other words, he needs to do some real trouble shooting and diagnose corre

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Before Rick throws more parts at it, you may want to make an agreement with him that you will not pay for replacing the vacuum pump if the problem remains after he installs the new pump. In other words, he needs to do some real trouble shooting and diagnose correctly the failed part, rather than "

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Another update: Rick (tech) installed the new line and road tested the car. Had intermittent hard pedal action, which was cured by pumping. Now he thinks it's a "lazy" vacuum pump. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Your acumen may have earned you an A**AB*Y. This w

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Your acumen may have earned you an A**AB*Y. This will be confirmed tomorrow. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gout an update from my mechanic. >> > > Glad your gout is ok. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Gout an update from my mechanic. Glad your gout is ok. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Al

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
kiebenz.com>: >> ‎Original Message >> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:41 PM >> To: Scott Ritchey; Mercedes Discussion List >> Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD >&

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD My pessimistic half is betting on >the vacuum pump, the most >expensive scenaro ($350 + labor). The junkyard / breakers / pick and pull is your friend. I had one break mechanically. It sounded like a rod was going to let loose. $60 later with a trip

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread astrasfogel--- via Mercedes
Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD >My pessimistic half is betting on >the vacuum pump, the most >expensive >scenaro ($350 + labor). The junkyard / breakers / pick and pull is your friend. I had one break mechanically. It sounded like a rod was going to let

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Duh, Why not take the hose off at the pump and check it before throwing parts (and $) at it? Dis was suggested by someone else in the first round of this break efisode. >My pessimistic half is betting on >the vacuum pump, the most >expensive scenaro ($350 + labor). The junkyard / breake

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:41 PM To: Scott Ritchey; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD >My pessimistic half is betting on >the vacuum pump, the most

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster. If it is braken you will loose you're break peddle. Their a known

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
ob of (wait for it) Shoe Goo sealing a hole on that tube. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
on that tube. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich > > Thomas via Mercedes > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON&#x

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
es@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD > > It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster. If it is braken > you will loose you're break peddle. Their a known week link. > > --R > > > > On 11/9/14 11:

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Glad weuns can laff 'bout you 'spressin' yoself so clere. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD It's the big plastic tub

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread astrasfogel--- via Mercedes
I kinda doubt it. The tube looks grate. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 10:17AM -0500 from Rich Thomas via Mercedes : It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster.  If it is braken you will loose you're break peddle.  Their a known week link. --R On 11/9

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread astrasfogel--- via Mercedes
I like your explanation better than any of the others because it's a cheap fix. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 11:48AM -0500 from Randy Bennell : Is there a check valve in the main hose leading to the brake booster? I had a vehicle way back that would periodically

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Is there a check valve in the main hose leading to the brake booster? I had a vehicle way back that would periodically lose the power brake function and scare me half to death. I changed the hose between the booster and the intake (it was a gas engine) and that solved the problem. There was a c

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Fairy gut!(very good) It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster. If it is braken you will loose you're break peddle. Their a known week link. --R On 11/9/14 11:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What's that? On Nov 9, 2014 11:08 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercede

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster. If it is braken you will loose you're break peddle. Their a known week link. --R On 11/9/14 11:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What's that? On Nov 9, 2014 11:08 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" wrote: The fact that me

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What's that? On Nov 9, 2014 11:08 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > The fact that messing with the nut made it better for a while leads me to > guess the main synthetic tube is broken. > > No diaphragm on that car. I vote for busted main vacuum line or a >> ruptured booster. >> >> Peter

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The fact that messing with the nut made it better for a while leads me to guess the main synthetic tube is broken. No diaphragm on that car. I vote for busted main vacuum line or a ruptured booster. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archi

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-09 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
No diaphragm on that car. I vote for busted main vacuum line or a ruptured booster. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailma

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Same as the last time. Read the suggestions posted to you. Vacuum pump is bad or you have a massive vacuum leak. THis was all explained to you before. Some of you will recall my write up of the intermittent loss of power braking on my 1983 300TD, coupled with the loss of engine shut off

Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-09 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Failed vacuum pump diaphragm? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some of you will recall my write up of the intermittent loss of power > braking on my 1983 300TD, coupled with the loss of engine shut off (won't > turn off with key).

[MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD

2014-11-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Some of you will recall my write up of the intermittent loss of power braking on my 1983 300TD, coupled with the loss of engine shut off (won't turn off with key). I fiddled with a rubber connector to the brake booster line, and happily the problem disappeared for nearly a week. The issue then re