All the doctors and insurance folks drive them ,,,
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Whete does driving a Mercedes fit in this scheme?
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Monday, 07 April 2014, 11:14PM -0400 from Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>:
Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens...
Andrew,
Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the
wheels, or the later email ask
Dwight wrote:
> Whete does driving a Mercedes fit in this scheme?
For me driving W123 it means that the door will open if I drive
carefully and someone else does not drive carefully.
mao
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Greg wrote:
> Something the gov't could have done to lower costs: Require the hospitals,
> clinics etc. to publicly post prices for common procedures.
>
Fixation about prices is what makes us visit WM. Lose the fixation
about price and let medicine suffer the same demise in the marketplace
that
Whete does driving a Mercedes fit in this scheme?
On Apr 8, 2014 8:52 PM, "Mountain Man" wrote:
> Max wrote:
> > I offer this link for those interested in reforming health care:
> >
>
> Nice.
> But it ain't gonna happen - wishful thinking.
> The best antidote to the idiocy of "what can my country
Max wrote:
> I offer this link for those interested in reforming health care:
>
Nice.
But it ain't gonna happen - wishful thinking.
The best antidote to the idiocy of "what can my country do for me" and
our fixation about insco and hospitals is to stay as far away as
possible from these satanist m
could have been taken.
Greg
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I offer this link for those interested in reforming h
I offer this link for those interested in reforming health care:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=228909
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Monday, 07 April 2014, 11:14PM -0400 from Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>:
>Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens...
Andrew,
Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the
wheels, or the later email askin
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 22:14:50 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens...
>
> Andrew,
>
> Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the
> wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the
Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens...
Andrew,
Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the
wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the first
two?
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To sea
Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens...
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government..
>> I am simply making observations based on three things.
>>
>> First: Hist
For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government..
I am simply making observations based on three things.
First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes
oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does
repeat it's self.
Second
the tea party types like this kind of tough talk, but i wouldn't take it so
seriously as most of them have earned their wealth connected to the
government teet and there is no way they will ever actually bite the hand
that feeds them
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Ar
If the residents of the rest of the world are getting up in arms over the evils
of corrupt gooberment, the lazy folks of Amrika are bound to take to the
streets to protest in some form or other. You can march on Wall Street as one
of the 99%, be a Tea Party pooper, or do the WTO protest dance.
For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government..
I am simply making observations based on three things.
First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes
oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does
repeat it's self.
Second:
And he can afford a publicist - impressive!
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, clay wrote:
> I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding. He wants to know
> if he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a
> swift demise from lead poisoning
>
> clay
>
> On Apr
I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding. He wants to know if
he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a swift
demise from lead poisoning
clay
On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of ou
Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government?
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann wrote:
> I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving
> it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to
> best effort] understanding it,
I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving
it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to
best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come
to two possible courses of action.
1. Die a lingering death waiting for ap
If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and
not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get
shafted.
For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not
purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit
e some, please feel free to present
them.
Greg
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Frederick
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 7:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Simon Conway's ta
Don,
I'm including a link below to a Wiki discussion of the "Clinton Health Security
Act of 1993". You can read it and decide "who" put forth the plan. Again, just
my opinion, but it was a terrible plan and overstep of the Federal Gov't then
just as the ACA is now. And Peter, if the "facts" pro
Richard wrote:
> Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits.
>
And what can be done by the common folks?
Be a ghost as much as possible possible.
mao
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So you think it's all the Republican's fault. Same document, different
administration??
Let me give you some clear advice. Republican/Democrat/Libertarian/Whatever..
they're all the same. Corrupt when they pass thru that magic barrier that
surrounds the district. It seems to swallow them i
into
a system that likely will be bankrupt and unavailable before I can claim one
penny of benefit.
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Sent: April 6, 2014 1:16:59 PM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish
unavailable before I can claim one
penny of benefit.
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From: Peter Frederick
Sent: April 6, 2014 1:16:59 PM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
The quality of any system is directly
Just remember that the ACA is the healthcare plan offered by the
Republicans when Hillary was trying to reform the "system" way back when.
Obama thought that by giving the Republicans their own plan, they would
accept it. Wrong. And it's as flawed now as it was when it was first
proposed.
On Sun,
Our current health care "system" has real competition, and is neither
efficient nor affordable.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> NO system that does not have real competition built into it
> will be either efficient, nor particularly affordable. None.
>
>
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OK Don
NSA:
Sounds like the hospitals my father was in the last few years of his life,
here in the US.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
> Peter, I'm guessing you've never lived in a country with nationalized
> health care. My wife's family is Italian. Italy has what I think you
> think yo
To be fair (I understand from my relatives who live in Italy) their
government does pretty much everything badly!
Greg
Since WWII, from my italian friends, and other accounts, The italian
gooberment does not do anything well, including collecting taxes.
Our gooberment also does few things we
The quality of any system is directly related to the abilities and
motivations of the people in charge. Put sleazeballs in charge of
anything and you will get corruption and disfunction, it's a basic
management principle.
Put good people in charge of a health care providing system with the
Roger:
Health insurance companies make huge sums of money off "providing" you
health care, and so do hospitals. Their profits do nothing to improve
your health or get you services, they just make everything cost twice
or three times as much. These profits motivate all sorts of
disinform
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Peter, I'm guessing you've never lived in a country with nationalized health
care. My wife's family is Italian. Italy has what I think you think you
want.
My wife has explained to me how awful the health care in Italy is. If you
have the m
Don't believe what insurance companies and politicians blow about in
campaign ads. The incentives to lie are tremendous, and there are
always a large number of people who lie to get what they want.
Peter
>>>
Peter,
You really shouldn't make such statements. The current POTUS fits yo
Simon Conway's tales are called apocryphal because they are not
verified and are probably fabrications. British National Health care
is superb. Again, I have a personal connection because we have long
term family friends who are dual citizens and always paid their taxes
so they qualified
NO system that does not have real competition built into it
will be either efficient, nor particularly affordable. None.
People do forget that all government-run programs are funded
at gunpoint. There are relatively few services that _deserve_
to be funded at gunpoint. I can think of a few.
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cryphal, because he is a
conservative I suppose.
Greg
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Dieselhead
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Ask Simon Conway a
no, you buy insurance and are covered for most problems. With all the
money thrown at obamacare so far (and in the future) we could have
bought insurance for the 30 million without coverage and not have
destroyed coverage for the rest.
we should remember obamacare is not free health care - it
I've never heard of anyone coming from Britain to get medical care.
Canada has a few provinces that have crappy programs (the Tory
stonghold of B. C. is a notable example, didn't do bypass surgery or
much of anything if you were past retirement).
And don't forget many of those only partial
e not available in Canada!
Greg
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Frederick
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
This experience is why we need a single
Sure, but consider all the Social Security outlays that will be saved by
killing folks off sooner.
Scott
Exactly. The goobermnt's goal is to "off" whoever shows little
prospect of being able to be taxed at levels over some threshold, say
$25,000/yr, unless they can be saved to provide sev
One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single
payer, government run health care is. Of the countries listed... why is
it that people from those countries come to America to get the specialized
doctors and procedures they need and pay for them out of their own pocket?
Sure, but consider all the Social Security outlays that will be saved by
killing folks off sooner.
Scott
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> From: G Mann
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 1:17 AM
>
> One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single
> payer, government run health
how do insco execs get 7 and 8 figure bonuses then? clearly you have not
been to palm beach lately or you'd know they can't make it in that sort of
system
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:
> This experience is why we need a single payer or national health service,
> like t
so poor people come from other countries and pay out of pocket to get
medical treatment in the USA or perhaps this is rich people?
rich people go wherever they please to buy whatever they please. what
about the rest of us? do we, the vast majority, simply not matter at all
in the equation or is
spitals and pay from their pocket.
I NEVER want to see such a terrible thing happen to our country.
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From: Peter Frederick
Sent: April 6, 2014 12:20:45 AM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The insurance I w
One small point to be raised in this summation of how wonderful single
payer, government run health care is. Of the countries listed... why is
it that people from those countries come to America to get the specialized
doctors and procedures they need and pay for them out of their own pocket?
C
This experience is why we need a single payer or national health
service, like the rest of the civilized world.
I can list dozens of examples, but I always get dissed or ignored.
Canada, the UK, Germany, France, Russia, this crap doesn't happen.
Peter
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I was envious. My 11-year-old brown Labrador was getting the kind of
treatment that I could only dream of. I wanted to go to PetCare. I
wanted pet insurance.
Real Veterinarians are the smartest and the best doctors. Those who
can't get in Vet school, generally can be accepted at most med
The Insurance I Wish I Had
NELSON’S doctors found the bulge in his abdomen on a Monday. An
ultrasound and CT scan showed that a mass was crowding out his stomach
and kidneys. It was one of the largest the doctors had ever seen. If
they didn’t do something, he’d be dead in a couple of days.
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