Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

you should be charged with a good pun.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:30 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I watched a utuber vid from this Aussie guy MGUY who has gone on a total
> rant about EVs.  He had one on about the Hertz EVs they were renting,
> and they had to be returned with 90% charge and if not you would get
> charged (see what I did there) for the charge to capacity, kinda like
> the usurious gas refill costs.  Turns out though that Hertz had the
> charge levels capped at 90%, so even if a renter managed to find a
> charge point close to the rental location (and wait a coupla hours to
> charge it) it would only go to 90% so by the time you got back to the
> drop-off it was below 90 and there was a surcharge on the bill.  Nice.
>
> Apparently EV batteries don't like to be charged to 100% constantly, or
> charged to a high level frequently like if you are driving a distance
> and want to recharge but then the car says no you have to wait awhile
> before I will let me be charged up again.  So you're basically f'd if
> you are trying to make any distance in any sort of time comparable to a
> IC vehicle.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/12/24 2:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > I think, like the Tesla owners getting screwed with price drops, that it
> is very karmic.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2024, at 2:20 PM, Dwight Giles
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > maybe there is justice.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 1:25 PM dan penoff.com  via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > And we’re surprised by this?
> >
> >
> > <
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> > [1-718966.png]
> > Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> > mbworld.org<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I watched a utuber vid from this Aussie guy MGUY who has gone on a total 
rant about EVs.  He had one on about the Hertz EVs they were renting, 
and they had to be returned with 90% charge and if not you would get 
charged (see what I did there) for the charge to capacity, kinda like 
the usurious gas refill costs.  Turns out though that Hertz had the 
charge levels capped at 90%, so even if a renter managed to find a 
charge point close to the rental location (and wait a coupla hours to 
charge it) it would only go to 90% so by the time you got back to the 
drop-off it was below 90 and there was a surcharge on the bill.  Nice.


Apparently EV batteries don't like to be charged to 100% constantly, or 
charged to a high level frequently like if you are driving a distance 
and want to recharge but then the car says no you have to wait awhile 
before I will let me be charged up again.  So you're basically f'd if 
you are trying to make any distance in any sort of time comparable to a 
IC vehicle.


--FT

On 4/12/24 2:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I think, like the Tesla owners getting screwed with price drops, that it is 
very karmic.

-D

On Apr 12, 2024, at 2:20 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:


maybe there is justice.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 1:25 PM dan penoff.com  via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
And we’re surprised by this?



[1-718966.png]
Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New 
Vehicle
mbworld.org

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I think, like the Tesla owners getting screwed with price drops, that it is 
very karmic.

-D

On Apr 12, 2024, at 2:20 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:


maybe there is justice.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
And we’re surprised by this?



[1-718966.png]
Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New 
Vehicle
mbworld.org

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

My guess would be something like an F150 or Silverado with a diesel engine.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, at 12:47, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> I wonder what new production vehicle had the LEAST depreciation after 1 year?
> 
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 1:42 PM Allan Streib  wrote:
>> Tesla owners have also faced higher-than-expected depreciation, made worse 
>> by Tesla cutting prices on new vehicles as sales have fallen off.
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, at 12:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Probably b/c their list price is ridiculously high.  I drove a loaner
>> > Mercedes EV SUV that was quite well decked out, with 185 mile range and
>> > regenerative braking.  I drove 4 miles but used only 2 miles of range due
>> > to this feature.  For the $95K asking price I would have expected a range
>> > of 300+ miles.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And we’re surprised by this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <
>> >> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
>> >> >
>> >> [1-718966.png]
>> >> Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
>> >> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
>> >> >
>> >> mbworld.org<
>> >> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
>> >> >
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

maybe there is justice.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And we’re surprised by this?
>
>
> <
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> [1-718966.png]
> Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> mbworld.org<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder what new production vehicle had the LEAST depreciation after 1
year?

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 1:42 PM Allan Streib  wrote:

> Tesla owners have also faced higher-than-expected depreciation, made worse
> by Tesla cutting prices on new vehicles as sales have fallen off.
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, at 12:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Probably b/c their list price is ridiculously high.  I drove a loaner
> > Mercedes EV SUV that was quite well decked out, with 185 mile range and
> > regenerative braking.  I drove 4 miles but used only 2 miles of range due
> > to this feature.  For the $95K asking price I would have expected a range
> > of 300+ miles.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And we’re surprised by this?
> >>
> >>
> >> <
> >>
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >> >
> >> [1-718966.png]
> >> Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New
> Vehicle<
> >>
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >> >
> >> mbworld.org<
> >>
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >> >
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Tesla owners have also faced higher-than-expected depreciation, made worse by 
Tesla cutting prices on new vehicles as sales have fallen off.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, at 12:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Probably b/c their list price is ridiculously high.  I drove a loaner
> Mercedes EV SUV that was quite well decked out, with 185 mile range and
> regenerative braking.  I drove 4 miles but used only 2 miles of range due
> to this feature.  For the $95K asking price I would have expected a range
> of 300+ miles.
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> And we’re surprised by this?
>>
>>
>> <
>> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
>> >
>> [1-718966.png]
>> Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
>> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
>> >
>> mbworld.org<
>> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
>> >
>>

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Probably b/c their list price is ridiculously high.  I drove a loaner
Mercedes EV SUV that was quite well decked out, with 185 mile range and
regenerative braking.  I drove 4 miles but used only 2 miles of range due
to this feature.  For the $95K asking price I would have expected a range
of 300+ miles.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And we’re surprised by this?
>
>
> <
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> [1-718966.png]
> Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> mbworld.org<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle/Money Pit

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

They took a fairly boring somewhat utilitarian car and made it worse, 
for more money


--FT

On 12/22/20 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Strange. Someone had a serious rectal-cranial inversion on this one:

https://germancarsforsaleblog.com/2002-mercedes-benz-clk320/ 


-D
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[MBZ] Today's Chuckle/Money Pit

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Strange. Someone had a serious rectal-cranial inversion on this one:

https://germancarsforsaleblog.com/2002-mercedes-benz-clk320/ 


-D
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